<![CDATA[Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?]]>Hi,

It seems to be important question, so I decided to ask you in this post.

I have some ideas for a game or rather many different games, but the most important thing for me is randomnesssss...

Can I generate (or rather pseudo-player, played by AI, for example) random number of units and place them randomly at random turns? Or better, at the beginning of each round units placed by game as X player, Y unit?

In short, I'd like to make units like partisans placed randomly on the map as player nr.X, or as AI played brigands/pirates, or plague, or weather pseudo-units (1st AI player as a random event generator).

I know that players can start at random places, but can I use this system every turn or at random turns? For example in Dragon Wars and Caribbean Trade Wars you have reinforcements, but these are all scripted and set from the start. Can I do it randomly?

If not at all - is there any trick you could think of as a random generator for at last placing certain units in random places?

Thank You!
ComR

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/933/random-number-of-units-placed-randomly-at-random-turnsRSS for NodeWed, 16 Sep 2026 04:00:38 GMTSat, 07 Jul 2018 14:15:21 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Thu, 12 Jul 2018 13:31:12 GMT]]>Random though about this. Currently you can make a trigger fire another trigger.

<option name="activateTrigger" value="triggerAttachmentRussians5_FarEastReserves:1:false:false:false:false"/>

(Format: "triggerName:numberOfTimes:useUses:testUses:testConditions:testChance")

How doable would the following be?

<option name="activateRandomTrigger" value="triggerAttachment1:triggerAttachment2:triggerAttachment3" count="2"/>

The above would fire exactly 2 of those 3 triggers at random. IDK how important the additional options are for activateTrigger (I don't understand what the test things do, and if I wanted to fire the trigger more than once I would just put more lines)

Also I investigated and I do not have the global conquest map on this computer. Sorry

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14358https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14358Thu, 12 Jul 2018 13:31:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:35:37 GMT]]>@redrum said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

@hepps Yeah or use @RogerCooper's conversion thread. Just not sure anyone would volunteer to update them but if they would or at least consider it then it could be helpful.

I converted everything I could get a hold of. If anyone has a mod not on my Scenario List send it to me and I will add it,

I don't have Global Conquest and I don't remember anything like it.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14216https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14216Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:35:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Mon, 09 Jul 2018 01:44:45 GMT]]>@CrazyG you can give this branch a try, YMMV: https://github.com/DanVanAtta/triplea/tree/conquest

I don't see the actual map added there, just additional code to help support. IF you can get ahold the old map xml it should work with the engine run at that version.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14143https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14143Mon, 09 Jul 2018 01:44:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 18:37:07 GMT]]>@crazyg The inspiration came from the random events system of Greyhawk Wars. Panguitch used a similar binary system.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14122https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14122Sun, 08 Jul 2018 18:37:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 16:13:26 GMT]]>@alkexr
this made me laugh it was so creative. Brilliant solution, it also points out that it would probably be very easy to just create a function that selects a random territory in the engine than an XML calls

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14119https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14119Sun, 08 Jul 2018 16:13:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 16:04:20 GMT]]>@crazyg said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

What you currently cannot do is have exactly 3 brigands total appear, and those three go to totally random territories.

You can. You place units with 50% chance on a fake territory, named x_1, x_2, ... etc. Interpreting this as a binary number, now you have a totally random number between 0 and 2^n - 1. Then each territory gets a number, and a condition checks if this number is equal to our random number, and if so, places a brigand. Repeat 3x. Number of triggers required is O(Territory * Number of units to spawn).

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14118https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14118Sun, 08 Jul 2018 16:04:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 15:10:49 GMT]]>@beelee nope just checked
I guess we hope @LaFayette ( who made original) or @Cernel who did some work on it has a copy

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14114https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14114Sun, 08 Jul 2018 15:10:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 15:08:43 GMT]]>@prastle said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

@crazyg I don't see it in the repo anymore oh well.

maybe Roger has it ?

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14113https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14113Sun, 08 Jul 2018 15:08:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:26:27 GMT]]>@hepps engine versions don't matter its what maps did you save?
🙂

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14112https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14112Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:26:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:11:16 GMT]]>@prastle Not sure what I have... I still have all the engine versions going back to 1.8.0.9

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14111https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14111Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:11:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:09:37 GMT]]>@hepps did you copy all old maps since mine ext died?
🙂

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14110https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14110Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:09:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:08:41 GMT]]>@prastle Yes I know... I am keeping this quote as proof that you once said lets not bring up the past. :face_savouring_delicious_food:

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14109https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14109Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:08:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:05:50 GMT]]>@hepps Ah I was reffering to the 2016 crash

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14108https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14108Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:05:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:03:21 GMT]]>@prastle said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

@redrum gigglez Let's not bring up the past 🙂 Still causes shudders in old lobby players 😉

@prastle I have copied this statement to 3 external hard drives... in the event I need to bring it out as proof to stop a scotch fueled rant. 😃

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14107https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14107Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:03:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:02:11 GMT]]>@crazyg I don't see it in the repo anymore oh well.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14106https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14106Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:02:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 13:02:56 GMT]]>I had it at one point. Is it missing?

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14104https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14104Sun, 08 Jul 2018 13:02:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:49:37 GMT]]>@crazyg kk was just recalling. Do you still have a copy?

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14103https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14103Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:49:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:45:43 GMT]]>You can do something like create a 50% chance for a unit to appear based on a condition. This could work for weather too but it takes a lot of triggers. If you had 3 possible weather effects occuring in every territory, you need 2 conditions and 3 triggers per territory.

You can create a 50% chance for a brigand to appear in a territory. What you currently cannot do is have exactly 3 brigands total appear, and those three go to totally random territories. (at least not for a decent sized map, too many conditions to check)

You can jerry-rig a bit of randomness with triggers, but it becomes really hard to do on a large scale due to complexity.

@prastle said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

Also if someone still has a copy of Global Conquest? (I think it was called.) It had random placement setup in a Risk style. @Cernel will recall and possibly still has a copy.

This only works at the start of the game, its difficult to repeat it.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14102https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14102Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:45:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:28:32 GMT]]>@alkexr Also if someone still has a copy of Global Conquest? (I think it was called.) It had random placement setup in a Risk style. @Cernel will recall and possibly still has a copy.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14100https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14100Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:28:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 11:39:26 GMT]]>@redrum gigglez Let's not bring up the past 🙂 Still causes shudders in old lobby players 😉

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14099https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14099Sun, 08 Jul 2018 11:39:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:42:43 GMT]]>And a few drinks...

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14087https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14087Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:42:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:11:57 GMT]]>@alkexr Ask Prastle one day when you have a couple of hours. 😃

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14084https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14084Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:11:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:17:26 GMT]]>@hepps said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

the dreaded crash of 2016

Did I miss something? 😮

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14083https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14083Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:17:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Random number of units placed randomly at random turns? on Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:55:19 GMT]]>@redrum True. Just thought there are probably some decent maps that have gotten lost after the dreaded crash of 2016. Was just a thought.

]]>https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14080https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/14080Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:55:19 GMT