Hmm. I've received nothing, including no rolls from you.

Edit! ah its considering it spam now!

Just so we don't forget for future list:

edit: Similar bug near MIssissippi Lowe 5 as at the Fort earlier mentioned, cannot move from the water 2 steps north, instead it takes a 3 step long path. Probably not fixable.

Nope, literally at the start of the turn and only units that did not cost resources to move; militia and transport ships.

Awaiting the turn then Getting really messy now.

Well I'm still on the fence regarding enemy territory but you're absolutely right about Anapolis. That's weird since you've been able to place other sneaky shipyards but it seems that the entire area of the Eastern Campaign Zone disallows for placement of new Shipyards, no matter what territory.

So a bug there too!

^^

lol I can't believe these things haven't been picked up earlier!

That whole round of yours in the save is weird. You're fighting battles within the scope of combat moves. And in my turn during R6 I couldn't move several ships and militia so I had to delete them and re add them

Imo if u want a shipyard there just buy it and edit it from somewhere else if possible.

There is an additional issue with forts. They only remove -2 in attack vs General supported Elite Cavalry, nothing else, as it is the only stat difference compared to a entrenchment. Otherwise it's only -1, making the marginally better than Entrenchments for the cost of an expensive Artillery.

Battle calculator doesn't seem to be able to account for the weaker bombardment that forts are supposed to provide either.

There are quite a few descriptions that need work.

edit: @Wirkey just edit if shipyard production isn't working in our game, as in place them elsewhere then move them there.

Take note though that shipyards as any other production facility are only placable in in Union territory for you as an Union player as per notes "Resources are produced from upgradable infrastructure units located in your territories, not from territory values. Territory values represent the historical population density of the territory, not PU production. Some infrastructure requires a minimum territory value to be placed. Union manpower and training infrastructure can only be built in original Union territory or Pro-Union territory. Confederate manpower and training infrastructure can only be built in original Confederate territory or Pro-Confederate territory. Each territory may contain only one of each of the folloing categories of infrastructure:"

This includes shipyard and railyards imo.
Edit2: Though I may be wrong since "training infrastructure" is explicitly defined as well. Where are you unable to place shipyards? I guess its in confederate territory?

About Torpedoes

I mean it makes some gameplay sense but no other unit in the game, on any map, works like this and from a purely logical/consistency kind of perspective it is just silly.

But sometimes you gotta compromise with that to get a working map.
Still to me it makes Torpedoes near useless then.

You want Torpedoes to delay the enemy advance.
If I can only kill 1 ship then I'm just loosing money on it for every delay.

So I lose a gunboat + 4 x 2 in supplies and 4 in money for every enemy ship I kill in a stack and that's in the best case scenario, to hit an ironclad I need 8x2. Complete wast of resources imo. Only good they could have is in a huge stack battle but the intention in the mississippi delta seems to be to delay the enemy, not fight him. With all those sparsely placed torpedoes.

Both the Torpedoes and the Generals need some clarification. There's also an unusual case in St Louise which starts with both a drill camp and a barracks! I wonder what the intentions are there since the notes clearly state that is not allowed, lol.

IF I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHORE, THIS SHORE WILL NOT EXIST!

And so began the new phase of TripleA development, introducing the brand new "destructable territories" function.

Never liked those Smug Frenchies? Bomb them out of their baguette eating, snail slurping, wine swirling butts out of existence!

Now part of the DLC "Stalins Summer" where you build your own little farm-dacha in the sun, micromanaging all the crops you stole from the Ukranians!

(Sorry , I don't know what im talking about)

I'm more wondering why shores full of artillery aren't bombing enemy ships bombing them

One of the reasons I can't play some maps is this 20 BB bombardment bullshit. I mean I'd be fine with it if my atlantic wall could shoot back. But since it can't, nooooooooooooooooooo.

@redrum
Hiya

General bonuses do stack in combat in all instances, just the production doesn't seem to. It doesn't even stack with production facilities so a barracks and a general won't be able to upgrade 6 units...I think. Im not in a position to try right now tho.

About the Torpedoes, that is written nowhere in the notes and must be made clearer imo! All that is written is that "more torpedoes to sink more ships" meaning 1 torpedo doesn't fire on all the ships like in the case of say AA in revised or artillery in Civil War ( that fires on 12 targets ). Are you sure it is the intention? Why?

Granted with the manpower mechanic the torpedoes could become over-powered at some point with about 48+4 initial possible at most at 24 turns equating to about 13 ships. But by turn 13 you should have more than 13 ships or you are to have already smashed the confederate fleet or lost the sea. And then those torpedoes are just sitting ducks/wasted supplies.

Alright I've replicated the bug.
Uploading the save file. Don't know what I did before (I'm pretty sure I replicated it with 99 ships too but who knows) but here's the deal with the Torpedoes according to the save I will upload: The Fewer enemy ships, the lower the chance of hitting more ships.

99 Torpedoes will consistently destroy 25 ships, yes, if there are 99 enemy ships there. But 99 torpedoes will destroy only a couple of ships if there are say 5 or 6 ships there. They will never destroy them all.

Uploading save.

Bug 3 Fort Riley cannot be reached from Council City in 1 move. Similar to the bug where the units in one of the classic/revised modes in North America won't move as expected. Probably can't be fixed easily. (North Western lands)

Possible? Bug 4 I think there might be a bug with generals and stacking as production facilities but I'll double check later.

IMO Recruitment centers are always destroyed and should be destroyed in hostile neutral territories as well. I don't count those as infrastructure tbh. Let's not argue the semantics though! Centers are obviously some form of infrastructure but if there is anything that shouldn't be remaining it's them. They also can't be built in foreign lands.

I'm for keeping all the initial infrastructure except for the above mentioned centers in hostile and non hostile territories, just fix the bug with the confederates not getting to keep the same stuff as the unionists!

Download the save, check all battles: Bugged Torpedoes.tsvg

Feel free to move or merge my replies here.

So me and WIrkey started playing this and it's really a great map but there are two bugs, one minor and one pretty grand.

1:st minor bug is that capturing Hostile Neutrals with Confederates leads to the downgrading/destruction of Storehouses and nothing else (except for manpower). The same is not true for the Union and nothing in the manual indicates it should be different. So this needs to be fixed.

2:nd Major bug
Torpedoes do not work as advertised.

Under notes
" *Torpedoes are naval mines, special defensive units that fire once before a battle and cannot be taken as casualties. Each torpedo rolls at 3 at one ship. To target more ships you need more torpedoes. Torpedo fields are either cleared after combat, or in the case of empty torpedo fields devoid of enemy units, cleared at the beginning of enemy combat move phase. "

The part about having more torpedoes thus targeting more ships is simply not true in LL when tested. It really devalues any real torpedo based strategy for the confederates. You're currently only able to kill just one ship no matter how many torpedoes you have in a territory.

Hopefully someone can fix this!

Mind you with dice it's all bonkers.With 99 torpedoes in place they ended up hitting 6 times, that's an extremely improbable result.

Thats as if each torpedo had a hit ratio of less than 1/12 not 3/12. And absolute statistical improbability if seen over nearly 100 attempts.

Something is probably wrong in the way they are coded.