**Scenario ** WWIIv3 1939 - 11 Nations Mod
Description 1939 on Anniversary edition map
Download Repository/Experimental/WW2v3_11N

Good Points

• Fast-playing game on a well-known map

Bad Points

• Despite 1939 start, there are no political restrictions.

@redrum D-Day_3. Feel free to use this for testing.

@redrum I wait until this is fully implemented before changing the scenario. Please let me know when your are ready.

I am trying the new CanNotTarget feature. It seems to have no effect, casualties are being taken normally. I am using 2.0.16209. Am I using the feature in an incorrect way?

<attachmentList>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="infantry" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="1"/>
      <option name="attack" value="1"/>
      <option name="defense" value="2"/>
      <option name="artillerySupportable" value="true"/>
      <option name="transportCost" value="1"/>
      <option name="canNotTarget" value="fighter:bomber"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="blockhouse" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="0"/>
      <option name="attack" value="1"/>
      <option name="defense" value="2"/>
      <option name="canNotTarget" value="fighter:bomber"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="artillery" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="1"/>
      <option name="attack" value="2"/>
      <option name="defense" value="2"/>
      <option name="artillery" value="true"/>
      <option name="attackAA" value="1"/>
      <option name="targetsAA" value="fighter:bomber"/>
      <option name="isAAforCombatOnly" value="true"/>
      <option name="maxAAattacks" value="1"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="armour" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="2"/>
      <option name="canBlitz" value="true"/>
      <option name="attack" value="3"/>
      <option name="defense" value="2"/>
      <option name="canBlitz" value="true"/>
      <option name="canNotTarget" value="fighter:bomber"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="armour_ge" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="2"/>
      <option name="canBlitz" value="true"/>
      <option name="attack" value="3"/>
      <option name="defense" value="3"/>
      <option name="canBlitz" value="true"/>
      <option name="canNotTarget" value="fighter:bomber"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="fighter" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="20"/>
      <option name="isAir" value="true"/>
      <option name="attack" value="1"/>
      <option name="defense" value="1"/>
      <option name="offensiveAttackAA" value="1"/>
      <option name="AttackAA" value="1"/>
      <option name="targetsAA" value="infantry:artillery:armour_ge"/>
      <option name="isAAforCombatOnly" value="true"/>
      <option name="canNotBeTargetedBy" value="infantry:armour:armour_ge:blockhouse"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="bomber" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
      <option name="movement" value="20"/>
      <option name="isAir" value="true"/>
      <option name="attack" value="3"/>
      <option name="defense" value="3"/>
      <option name="canNotBeTargetedBy" value="infantry:armour:armour_ge:blockhouse"/>
    </attachment>
  

@Cernel said in Ideas For Air Warfare:

@RogerCooper said in Ideas For Air Warfare:

So, a game in which heavy bombers cannot attack warships in the open may be realistic as a matter of what you can do, as those attacks achieved almost nothing, but it would be certainly not realistic at all as a matter of what it was done (as such attacks were made on many occasions, and many believed them to be actually effective).

This is interesting conceptual issue, does realism mean what actually happened or what the participants thought would happen? I would probably give Heavy Bombers an attack of 1/6 against surface warships to reflect lucky hits or catching ships in port.

@Cernel I am glad to see the canNotTarget properties are now implemented. I will revisit the D-Day scenario.

@Hepps TripleA allows you to separate the air combat out, but not much else. For example, WW2 Heavy Bombers were ineffective against warships, but effective against land units and transports. That level of detail is unsupportable in TripleA.

There is no way of having land units that can't fire against air units (in limited combat rounds). I tried a number of workarounds for D-day and nothing really works.

Some sort of grouping system would not be hard to implement. Each unit would have a "casualtyType" property and a number of special attack properties with an options "combatStrength", "stance" (attack/defense/both) and "targetType". The AI would normally target the group against which is has the highest strength.

@Schulz Much of what you are suggesting would require an alternate combat model. In the A&A model, you target the enemy force as a whole, possibly with exclusions as to what you could hit.

In other games, you target specific units or specific types of units. For example, in Columbia Games's Victory series, you target land units, sea surface units, air units or submarines. This kind of combat model would require some changes in the TripleA engine, including the AI, but not huge changes.

@Hepps Even with a cleaned-up map, I receive this error frequently, sometimes on straight boundaries. I often resort to entering the coordinate pairs by hand.

The code in the polygon grabber should be reviewed. It is one of the oldest parts of TripleA.

Here is map I have been working on.. Note the orthogonal island in lower center part of the map. I kept on simplifying and straightening and it still didn't work. I just entered the coordinates by hand.

a map where each "neutral" territory is a single player, cause I want the players to be able to choose if to attack of walk friendly over each one

It is probably easier to leave them as neutrals. You could still use political actions to change the units and territory ownership. You also have the options of a PU penalty for attacking any neutral or making all neutrals impassable, forcing the player to choose an explicit political action before attacking them.

If you post your scenario or just the XML code, the community can probably find a solution for you.