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    #8: VF (Germans) vs. TGC (Allies) | Original Europe, no German SCA, one sub Bay of Biscay removed

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    • VictoryFirstV Offline
      VictoryFirst @The_Good_Captain
      last edited by VictoryFirst

      @the_good_captain said in #8: VF (Germans) vs. TGC (Allies) | Original Europe, no German SCA, one sub Bay of Biscay removed:

      I guess the roller doesnt work here?

      Yep that's true and it is the only drawback of this site. It should be very easy to install a dice bot here too but it seems like the developers are very uninterested in doing this. I could do it myself if I want but I don't have server access 😞 I suggest you use pbegames.com/roller/, it's a bit slower but it still works very will I find.

      EDIT: Or optionally what also works well is enter edit mode at the end of the combat movement phase. That way you can select any number of casualties you want during battles. So that way you have more control over the battle.

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        VictoryFirst
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        TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 1
        After G1
        Eastern Front: -13.59 / +4
        Atlantic/WA: +14.48 / +64
        Total: +0.89 / +68

        After Allied1
        Eastern Front: -19.71 / -7
        Atlantic/WA: -3.76 / +32
        Total: -23.47 / +25

        Yeah this game is not going well lol. The net TUV swing on the Eastern Front is negative 😂

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          VictoryFirst
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          TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

          Game History

          Round: 2
          
              Purchase Units - Germans
                  Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
          
              Combat Move - Germans
                  1 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        Germans take Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians
                  1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                        Germans take Baltic States from Russians
                  3 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                  3 fighters moved from Rumania to East Poland
                  1 bomber moved from Germany to East Poland
                  1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to East Poland
                  1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                        Germans take Karelia from Russians
                  1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                        Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans
                  1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                        Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British
                  1 battleship moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                        Germans take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from British
          
              Combat - Germans
                  Battle in East Poland
                      Germans attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 3 infantry
                      Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                          Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 3 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                          Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                          2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                          2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                      Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                      Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                      Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
          
              Non Combat Move - Germans
                  2 armour moved from Germany to Poland
                  2 armour moved from Hungary to Poland
                  21 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                  1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia
                  1 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia
                  2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
                  1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
                  1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
                  1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                  1 infantry moved from Algeria to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                  2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
                  2 infantry moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Northern Italy
                  1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
                  3 fighters moved from East Poland to Germany
                  1 bomber moved from East Poland to Germany
                  1 fighter moved from East Poland to Hungary
                  1 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany
          
              Place Units - Germans
                  14 infantry placed in Germany
          
              Turn Complete - Germans
                  Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          Russians regular : 1,00
          Germans regular : 0,83
          

          Savegame

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            The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
            last edited by

            @victoryfirst

            Game History

            Round: 2
            
                Purchase Units - Russians
                    Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
            
                Combat Move - Russians
                    1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
                    2 infantry moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                    1 fighter moved from Leningrad to East Poland
                    3 infantry moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
                    1 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
                    1 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia
                    3 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia
                    1 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
                    1 submarine moved from North Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
                          British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans
            
                Combat - Russians
                    Battle in East Poland
                        Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                        Germans defend with 1 infantry
                            Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                            Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                        Russians win, taking East Poland from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                        Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                        Russians attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                        Germans defend with 1 infantry
                            Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                            Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                        Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                        Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Battle in Karelia
                        Russians attack with 4 armour and 2 infantry
                        Germans defend with 1 infantry
                            Russians roll dice for 4 armour and 2 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                            Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
                        Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 4 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                        Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Battle in Baltic States
                        Russians attack with 3 infantry
                        Germans defend with 1 infantry
                            Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                            Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                        Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                        Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            
                Non Combat Move - Russians
                    1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Karelia
                    1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia
                    3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia
                    1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Leningrad
                    1 fighter moved from East Poland to Leningrad
                    11 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
                    1 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia
                    1 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
                    1 transport moved from North Atlantic Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
            
                Place Units - Russians
                    8 infantry placed in Leningrad
            
                Turn Complete - Russians
                    Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs
            

            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

            Germans regular : -1.33
            Russians regular : 1.50
            
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              The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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              Game History

              Round: 2
              
                  Purchase Units - British
                      British buy 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
              
                  Combat Move - British
                      1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                      1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                      1 infantry moved from Libya to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                      1 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Tunisia
                      1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                      1 destroyer moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                      1 fighter moved from Egypt to Tunisia
                      2 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
                      1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
              
                  Combat - British
                      Battle in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                          British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                          Germans defend with 1 submarine
                              British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                              Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              1 destroyer owned by the British lost in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                          Germans and British reach a stalemate
                          . Battle score for attacker is -12
                          Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                      Battle in Tunisia
                          British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                          Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                              British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                              Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the British lost in Tunisia
                              1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                              British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                              Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the British lost in Tunisia
                              1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                          British win, taking Tunisia from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                          Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                          Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
              
                  Non Combat Move - British
                      Turning on Edit Mode
                      EDIT: Adding units owned by British to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                      EDIT: Changing ownership of U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans to Americans
                      EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                      1 fighter moved from Tunisia to Egypt
                      1 armour moved from Egypt to Syria
                      1 bomber moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                      2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Karelia
                      1 armour moved from Canada to Davis Strait Sea Zone
                      1 armour and 1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
                      1 armour moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                      1 destroyer moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
                      1 aaGun moved from Canada to United States
              
                  Place Units - British
                      2 transports placed in Atlantic Sea Zone
                      1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
              
                  Turn Complete - British
                      British collect 16 PUs; end with 18 PUs
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              Germans regular : 1.33
              British regular : -1.33
              
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                The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                @victoryfirst

                Game History

                Round: 2
                
                    Purchase Units - Americans
                        Americans buy 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                
                    Combat Move - Americans
                        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                        1 fighter moved from United States to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                        1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                
                    Combat - Americans
                        Battle in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                            Germans defend with 1 battleship
                                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                            Americans win, taking British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                            Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
                        Battle in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                            Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                            Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                            Americans win, taking British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
                            Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
                        Battle in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                            British loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                            Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                
                    Non Combat Move - Americans
                        1 fighter moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to United States
                        1 bomber moved from British Convoy 1 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                        1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                
                    Place Units - Americans
                        1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United States
                        2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                
                    Turn Complete - Americans
                        Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Americans regular : 0.33
                Germans regular : -0.67
                

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                  TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 2
                  After G2
                  Eastern Front: -22.2 / -3
                  Atlantic/WA: -3.76 / +32
                  Total: -25.96 / +29

                  After Allied2
                  Eastern Front: -29.19 / -15
                  Atlantic/WA: -10.83 / +4
                  Africa/Med: -0.51 / -6
                  Total: -40.53 / -17

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                    VictoryFirst
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                    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                    Game History

                    Round: 3
                    
                        Purchase Units - Germans
                            Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                    
                        Combat Move - Germans
                            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
                            2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                            1 fighter moved from Hungary to Baltic States
                            3 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
                            2 fighters moved from Finland to Baltic States
                            8 armour, 3 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                    
                        Combat - Germans
                            Battle in East Poland
                                Germans attack with 8 armour, 7 artilleries and 27 infantry
                                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 7 artilleries and 27 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 11/42 hits, 12,00 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                                Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 8 armour, 7 artilleries and 27 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Baltic States
                                Germans attack with 6 fighters and 2 infantry
                                Russians defend with 3 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 6 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                    1 fighter owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                                    3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                                Germans win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                    
                        Non Combat Move - Germans
                            1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
                            1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Rumania
                            4 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Germany
                    
                        Place Units - Germans
                            8 armour placed in Germany
                    
                        Turn Complete - Germans
                            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                    

                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                    Russians regular : 1,00
                    Germans regular : -1,33
                    

                    Savegame

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                      The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                      @victoryfirst

                      Game History

                      Round: 3
                      
                          Purchase Units - Russians
                              Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                      
                          Combat Move - Russians
                              5 armour and 3 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
                              1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Finland
                              1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                              1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
                      
                          Combat - Russians
                              Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                  Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                                  Germans defend with 2 infantry
                                      Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                      Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                      1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                      1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                      Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                                      Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                      Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                                      Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                      Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                                      Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                      1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                      1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                  Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                  Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                                  Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                              Battle in Finland
                                  Russians attack with 5 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                                  Germans defend with 6 infantry
                                      Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                                      Germans roll dice for 6 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                      3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland
                                      3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                                  1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians retreated
                                  5 armour owned by the Russians retreated to Karelia
                                  Germans win with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                  Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                                  Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                      
                          Non Combat Move - Russians
                              1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Finland to Karelia
                              1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
                              1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia
                      
                          Place Units - Russians
                              Turning on Edit Mode
                              EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Atlantic Sea Zone: 1 transport
                              EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport
                              EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                              8 infantry placed in Leningrad
                      
                          Turn Complete - Russians
                              Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
                      

                      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                      Germans regular : 1.33
                      Russians regular : -2.67
                      
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                        The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                        @victoryfirst

                        Game History

                        Round: 3
                        
                            Purchase Units - Americans
                                Americans buy 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                        
                            Combat Move - Americans
                                1 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco
                                      Americans take Morocco from Germans
                        
                            Combat - Americans
                        
                            Non Combat Move - Americans
                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Barents Sea Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 1 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                1 destroyer moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                4 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                                4 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                4 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                                2 fighters moved from United States to United Kingdom
                                1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Libya
                        
                            Place Units - Americans
                                1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in United States
                                3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                        
                            Turn Complete - Americans
                                Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
                        

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                          TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 3
                          After G3

                          Eastern Front: -39.87 / -15
                          Atlantic/WA: -10.83 / +4
                          Africa/Med: -0.51 / -6
                          Total: -51.21 / -17

                          After Allied3
                          Eastern Front: -37.4 / -24
                          Atlantic/WA: -10.83 / +4
                          Africa/Med: -5.06 / -14
                          Total: -53.29 / -34

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                            TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                            Game History

                            Round: 4
                            
                                Purchase Units - Germans
                                    Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Germans
                                    1 armour moved from East Poland to Baltic States
                                          Germans take Baltic States from Russians
                                    1 armour moved from Baltic States to East Poland
                                    1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                                    8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                                    1 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia
                                    1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
                                    1 bomber moved from Germany to Belorussia
                            
                                Combat - Germans
                                    Battle in Belorussia
                                        Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                                        Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                            Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                            Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                            Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                            Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                            1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                        Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                        Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Germans
                                    1 bomber moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                    1 bomber moved from East Poland to Germany
                            
                                Place Units - Germans
                                    9 armour placed in Germany
                            
                                Turn Complete - Germans
                                    Germans collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Russians regular : -0,67
                            Germans regular : -0,67
                            

                            Savegame

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                              The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                              @victoryfirst

                              Game History

                              Round: 4
                              
                                  Purchase Units - Russians
                                      Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                              
                                  Combat Move - Russians
                                      2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
                                      1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Karelia to Belorussia
                              
                                  Combat - Russians
                                      Battle in Belorussia
                                          Russians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                                          Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                              Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                              Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                              1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
                                          Russians win, taking Belorussia from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                          Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                                          Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - Russians
                                      1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Moscow
                                      5 armour moved from Karelia to Moscow
                                      1 artillery moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
                                      1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Leningrad
                                      1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 35 infantry moved from Leningrad to Russia
                                      1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                                      1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                              
                                  Place Units - Russians
                                      7 infantry placed in Moscow
                              
                                  Turn Complete - Russians
                                      Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 24 PUs
                              

                              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                              Germans regular : 0.67
                              Russians regular : -0.50
                              
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                                Game History

                                Round: 4
                                
                                    Purchase Units - British
                                        British buy 5 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                
                                    Combat Move - British
                                        1 artillery moved from Algeria to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                                        1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                                        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Bay of Biscay Sea Zone
                                        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to France
                                              British take France from Germans
                                        1 infantry moved from Norway to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
                                        1 infantry moved from Norway to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
                                              British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
                                
                                    Combat - British
                                
                                    Non Combat Move - British
                                        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                                        1 armour moved from Norway to Karelia
                                        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
                                        1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from North Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                                        1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Bay of Biscay Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                                        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                                        1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
                                        2 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow
                                        1 armour moved from Caucasus to Moscow
                                        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkestan
                                        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Karelia
                                        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Karelia
                                
                                    Place Units - British
                                        5 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom
                                
                                    Turn Complete - British
                                        British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
                                
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                                  @victoryfirst

                                  Game History

                                  Round: 4
                                  
                                      Purchase Units - Americans
                                          Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                                  
                                      Combat Move - Americans
                                          Turning on Edit Mode
                                          EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                          EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                          Turning on Edit Mode
                                          EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                          EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                          1 bomber moved from Libya to Northern Italy
                                          1 transport moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                                  
                                      Combat - Americans
                                          Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
                                              Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU.
                                              Bombing raid costs 1 PU
                                  
                                      Non Combat Move - Americans
                                          Turning on Edit Mode
                                          EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                          EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                          1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Libya
                                          1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                                          2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                          4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                                          4 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                                          3 destroyers moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                          1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                                          1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
                                          1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                                          2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Karelia
                                  
                                      Place Units - Americans
                                          3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States
                                          2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                                  
                                      Turn Complete - Americans
                                          Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                                  

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                                    TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 4
                                    After G4
                                    Eastern Front: -34.4 / -21
                                    Atlantic/WA: -10.83 / +4
                                    Africa/Med: -5.06 / -14
                                    Total: -50.29 / -31

                                    After Allied4
                                    Eastern Front: -32.5 / -21
                                    Atlantic/WA: -8.33 / +3
                                    Africa/Med: -5.06 / -14
                                    Total: -45.89 / -32

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                                      TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

                                      TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                      Game History

                                      Round: 5
                                      
                                          Purchase Units - Germans
                                              Germans buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                                      
                                          Combat Move - Germans
                                              16 armour, 8 artilleries and 44 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
                                              4 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                                              1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R.
                                              1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
                                              5 fighters moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium
                                              1 armour moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium
                                      
                                          Combat - Germans
                                              Battle in Belorussia
                                                  Germans attack with 16 armour, 8 artilleries and 44 infantry
                                                  Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                                      Germans roll dice for 16 armour, 8 artilleries and 44 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 20/68 hits, 19,33 expected hits
                                                      Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                      1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                                  Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 16 armour, 8 artilleries and 44 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                  Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                                              Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                                  Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                                                  Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                                      Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                                      Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                      1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                                  Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                  Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                                              Battle in Netherlands-Belgium
                                                  Germans attack with 1 armour and 5 fighters
                                                  British defend with 2 infantry
                                                      Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 5 fighters in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                                                      British roll dice for 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                      2 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium
                                                  Germans win, taking Netherlands-Belgium from British with 1 armour and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                  Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                                      
                                          Non Combat Move - Germans
                                              5 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
                                              1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                                              3 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                                      
                                          Place Units - Germans
                                              11 infantry placed in Germany
                                      
                                          Turn Complete - Germans
                                              Germans collect 35 PUs; end with 37 PUs
                                      

                                      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                      Russians regular : -0,67
                                      Germans regular : 2,83
                                      British regular : -0,67
                                      

                                      Savegame

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                                        Odds:

                                        Moscow: 40.05%
                                        Berlin: 35.96% (20%-55%)
                                        Final odds: 25,6% (18%-32%)

                                        Given the bad German dice during this game, I'd say we need to remove the infantry from Romania to make Europe completely balanced.

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                                          Funny because the game started out quite good in Germany's favor, but it went very much downhill later in the game. I think that's because the Allies rolled a bit above average in every single naval battle, and all those small bits added up and created a massive TUV swing in the Allies' favor.

                                          In any case, I am not a fan of the G1 I did so let's go again after this. Did you want to experiment already with one infantry from Romania removed? I am already testing this with Ragnell due to a similar bad German game that still had - at least in my opinion - decent Moscow odds.

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                                            @victoryfirst said in #8: VF (Germans) vs. TGC (Allies) | Original Europe, no German SCA, one sub Bay of Biscay removed:

                                            Odds:

                                            Moscow: 40.05%
                                            Berlin: 35.96% (20%-55%)
                                            Final odds: 25,6% (18%-32%)

                                            Given the bad German dice during this game, I'd say we need to remove the infantry from Romania to make Europe completely balanced.

                                            Looks right and so I'm going to take the 85% chance the Allies take Moscow on G5.

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