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@johnnycat said in EXP G40 Game 2 Trout vs. JohnnyCat:
But having a 80% win turn into a complete loss even once seems not fun to me.
Well this game might not be for you then as it does happen 
You have 5 battles in one turn. All are 80 %. Odds are you're gonna lose one. But usually you win them all
The hardest lessons are the ones that make the biggest impression
That is a original Axis and Allies rule. It's not part of the mod. It's been around for two decades.
Dice are part of the game. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don't. Over the course of a game, especially a long one, they usually even out or a close approximation anyway.
LowLuck is just seeing who can do math problems better. There is zero appeal to me in that. It can be useful when designing a game or mod though and some people prefer it. I believe the "Total World War" guys use it and that game makes this one look like a Risk game
If I get bad dice, I look at it as a challenge. LowLuck the Japanese win Midway and hitler gets his ass kicked in 1940.
Those are my views on dice anyway
At any rate, learning from mistakes is part of learning the game. Panzer and Trout have both defeated me with the strategy you attempted. Trout twice. So it finally made me take the threat seriously and it required me to come up with a minimum defense of UK that most likely succeeds in defeating it. Unless I get bad dice
OOB also requires a minimum defense of UK. This most likely represents historical accuracy and gives the Axis a turn or two to continue to build up. If UK ignores it it's a gamble whether the Axis go Sealion or not.
Something different in this game is, it's game over if UK falls. Same with USSR. That is not the case in OOB.
The AirBase in W GER can scramble 3 Planes. It should be fully staffed ,usually, just for that reason as the Kriegsmarine starts out low on surface Ships.
Anyway, now you know Fire it up and give it another go.
And just keep reading the rules over and over again. Including OutOfBox. I read the rules at least once a day when modding the game for triplea, so got pretty good at it.
I keep two windows open to this day. One for Table of Contents and the other to scroll where that information is. And I still had to ask a lot of questions. So don't sweat it
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The tier one players in the league at the other site and all the top players I've encountered all follow this strategy.
Avoid extremely large battles unless you have to. Especially Naval battles as the TotalUnitValue is so high.
If the odds are in my favor, say 70% or above, I usually say F it and roll anyways. It depends on the situation though. Where do I retreat to ? Do I have reinforcements coming ? etc ... If I'm losing and need to gamble.
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Note to players Japanese: It is Late 1942 and Prime Minister Tojo has Ordered All Japanese to Fight to the Death ! Banzai Attacks are Now Possible. Japanese buy 1 Escort, 3 aaGuns, 1 elite and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Banzai: Japanese has 1 Banzai placed in Japan Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Tsagaan Olom Japanese take Tsagaan Olom from Russians 1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy Japanese take Olgiy from Russians 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei 1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to Szechwan 1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to Hopei 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 submarine moved from 57 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Borneo Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British defend with 1 Fortification and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Borneo, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Fortification and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Borneo 1 Fortification owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Borneo Japanese win, taking Borneo from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 Fortification and 1 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 55 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 transport in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 110 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger RemoveBanzai: has removed 1 Banzai owned by Japanese in Japan Trigger Wolfpack at110 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 110 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Dzavhan 3 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Japan 2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to Korea 1 Heavy_BB, 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 pacific_cruiser and 1 pacific_submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 bomber moved from Szechwan to Hunan 1 bomber moved from Hopei to Hunan 3 fighters moved from Kweichow to Korea 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Korea 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ulaanbaatar to Japan 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur 1 infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Buryatia 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 elite, 2 fighters, 16 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Ulaanbaatar to Dzavhan 1 air_transport moved from Ulaanbaatar to Japan 1 air_transport and 1 elite moved from Japan to Korea 2 J_Rails moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria 2 J_Rails and 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Dzavhan 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Buyant-Uhaa 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 Heavy_BB, 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 carrier and 3 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 19 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 3 aaGuns placed in Korea 1 elite and 9 infantry placed in Japan 1 Escort placed in 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Korea Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Korea: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Japanese Note to players Japanese: It is Late 1942 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work. We will soon Launch 1 new Carrier with 2 new Naval Fighters. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Trigger Japanese Controls Philippines Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 61 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0,00 Americans regular : -0,17 Japanese regular : 0,17 British regular : 0,5061ef63c8-b9ff-4387-9ac6-fbf60e4381bf-exp-game-3-trout-vs.panzer-j6.tsvg
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 Escort, 1 Italian_LCV, 1 NavalMine3, 4 infantry and 2 italian_paras; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Southern Italy 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 2 italian_paras moved from Southern Italy to Romania 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Romania 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania Combat - Italians Battle in Trans-Jordan Battle in Romania Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 italian_paras Russians defend with 1 armour and 3 russian_paras Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 italian_paras in Romania, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 3,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 russian_paras in Romania, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Romania 1 russian_para owned by the Russians lost in Romania Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 italian_paras in Romania, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 russian_paras in Romania, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits 1 italian_para owned by the Italians lost in Romania 2 russian_paras owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Romania Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British, taking Romania from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 italian_para remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 italian_para Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 3 russian_paras Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Italians in Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from Romania to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from Romania to Northern Italy 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tobruk to Tunisia EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV moved from Gibraltar to Morocco EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Gibraltar EDIT: Italians undo move 5. EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Morocco EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Southern France EDIT: 1 armour moved from Southern Italy to Southern France Place Units - Italians 1 Escort placed in 95 Sea Zone 1 Italian_LCV, 1 NavalMine3 and 2 italian_paras placed in Southern Italy 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -1,67 Russians regular : 0,337112f682-b84f-44a8-a243-f2a1a4942588-exp-game-1-multi-apbt-it4.tsvg
