EXP Game 2 Panzer vs. Trout
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@panzerstahl-helm-0 I think I figured out the battle calc thing. Looks like it was counting the LM's in the unit stats
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Howdy,
you would need to remove the land mines for the calculation.
TripleA counts them as units which can be taken as a hit.I remove the average number of hits of the LMs when calculating the odds.
so 20 LMs in Belarus defend against attacks from Novgorod and so do 20 LMs against an attack from the Baltic States.
LMs defend at 2 for the first round only, which is roughly 6 hits against each border, so 12 hits (roughly) in total.
So I would remove 10-12 units from yours for calculation.BR
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@panzerstahl-helm-0 When I hover over the LM's it shows 20 on the E Poland border and 20 on the Baltic States border which means 0 in the battle. If I have that right. I may still not do it as battle calc is saying less than 50/50. I may need to do back-of-napkin math as I don't know if it is taking into account that your AA will probably shoot down something also.
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yea as Panzer said you need to remove the LMs. In this case all of them. Triplea won't allow for potential AA hits
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I whacked the LMs and 2 Ftrs for G.Edit 2
I'm not 100% sure the battle calc figures bonus rolls. I've never actually mathed it outEdit 3
You forgot to add Soviet 1st Tank. My bad it's in Moscow lolEdit 4
There are 2 active Commisars. Should only be 1.Edit 5
Seems as if triplea does. Here it is with the extra commisar deactivatedI'll stop butting in
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@panzerstahl-helm-0 Game History
Round: 8 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Our Factories are Now Producing Panzer Jagers !<br><br><img src="PanzerJagerFS.png"/><br><br></body> Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Germany Receives One Free SubPen !<br /><br><br><img src="SubPen.png"/><b></body> Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Our Factories are Now Producing Heavy Bombers !<br><br><img src="German_Hvy_Bmbr.png"/><br><br><img src="HvyBmbr.png"/><b></body> Trigger PanzerJagerFS: buyPanzerJagerFS added to productionGermans Trigger German Hvy Bmbr: buyGerman_Hvy_Bmbr added to productionGermans triggerAttachmenEarly1943: has removed 1 Early1943_red owned by Changer in Early 1943 triggerAttachmenLate1943Red: has removed 1 Late1943 owned by Changer in Late 1943 triggerAttachmenEarly1943: Changer has 1 Early1943 placed in Early 1943 triggerAttachmenLate1943Red: Changer has 1 Late1943_red placed in Late 1943 Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Germans buy 2 GermanUBoats, 1 German_Hvy_Bmbr, 1 Hvy_Undg_2, 1 Panzer_General, 2 Waffen_Paras, 1 elite and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Place Units - Germans Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 UndrgroundFctry and 2 german_paras 1 Hvy_Undg_2 and 2 Waffen_Paras placed in Germany Combat Move - Germans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Germans takes Scotland from British EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Germans takes Karelia from Russians EDIT: Germans takes Finland from Russians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Western Germany to Scotland EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Scotland to Norway EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Scotland EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Scotland to Norway EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Scotland EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Scotland to Norway EDIT: 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: Germans undo move 9. EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway EDIT: 1 Waffen_Para moved from Germany to Finland 1 armour moved from Archangel to Smolensk Germans take Smolensk from Russians 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Germany to Norway 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 elite moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Greece to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 elite moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Greece to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Germany to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Denmark EDIT: 1 1stLuftfloffen moved from Western Germany to 1st Luftfloffen EDIT: 2 GfighterAFs moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Norway EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Norway EDIT: 1 Gtactical_bomberAF moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Norway EDIT: Germans undo move 22. EDIT: 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 GermanUBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone Combat - Germans EDIT: Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Norway Germans attack with 1 GAirCommanderOn, 1 German_LCV, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 1 GAirCommanderOn, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 German_LCV and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 GermanUBoat and 1 bomber Americans defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 GermanUBoat Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 bomber, 1 elite, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 3 infantry Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 bomber, 1 elite, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Battle in Denmark Germans attack with 1 elite, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Germans win, taking Denmark from British with 1 elite, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Scotland from Germans to British EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Germany Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Novgorod Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals Trigger SubPenLate43Place: Germans has 1 SubPen placed in Western Germany EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn moved from Norway to 1st Luftfloffen EDIT: 2 GfighterAFs moved from Norway to 1st Luftfloffen EDIT: 1 Gtactical_bomberAF moved from Norway to 1st Luftfloffen EDIT: 1 1stLuftfloffen moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Western Germany 1 Waffen_Para moved from Germany to Romania 4 armour moved from Western Germany to Germany 1 LuftwaffeAce and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 G_air_transport moved from Germany to Western Germany 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Western Germany 1 2ndPanzerArmy moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 elite moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 waffen_infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Germany 1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 G_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Novgorod 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from France to Southern France Place Units - Germans 2 GermanUBoats placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 German_Hvy_Bmbr, 1 Panzer_General and 1 elite placed in Germany 5 infantry placed in Germany 2 infantry placed in France 3 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 Germans collect 51 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 51 PUs Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 63 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
I called off the Belarus attack. Fuehrer not happy at the Soviet Army being stronger than expected. Didn't bother doing the math as even if I had won, Luftwaffe losses would have been unacceptable.
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