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    TWW 3.0.0.6? Lich(ax) vs ubernaut(al)

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      Lich
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      @ubernaut I disagree with this view. In the unit description section of the rules trains are described on the same line as trucks, indicating that trains behave like trucks do and that they are sea transportable. Just like trucks don't need docks to board, trains don't either.

      Also if you take a look at the example games posted in the TWW strategy guide Redrum consistently uses a transport to move that train on Ger2. (https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/661/total-world-war-strategy-guide?page=1)

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        ubernaut Lobby Moderators @Lich
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        @lich hmm i swear i read that somewhere a lot of the rules changed over time perhaps i'm mistaken tho, unfortunately, @redrum and @hepps don't check the forum very often anymore maybe @panther knows?

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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          Lich
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          @ubernaut My understanding is any transportable unit can board as long as it has the movement (i.e. no player enforced rules for boarding). So materials and aa are the special cases that require docks (or truck or train w/ Advanced logistics) since they naturally have 0 movement. So trains, like other units naturally with movement, don't require docks.

          Also from a map design standpoint, I think the train was put in Africa to let the Germans have another train. But to restrict their access to it in the first few turns. It wouldn't make sense to give them a train there if they can't even use it (without invading Spain).

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            ubernaut Lobby Moderators @Lich
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            @lich yeah in my first few games i pulled the train out also but in our last game, i didn't because of this like i say i'm pretty i read or was told by someone you needed a dock to move them onto the transport (i believe you only need a rail to unload) hopefully someone else will chime in. 🙂

            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              Lich
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              @ubernaut Yeah the rail to unload is also engine enforced. That Redrum's own example games show him moving the train has me convinced that not needing docks is the intended behavior.

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              • ubernautU Offline
                ubernaut Lobby Moderators @Lich
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                @lich yeah ok like i said a number of the movement rules changed those games were played on an earlier version of the game i believe. so i'm just saying we should wait for someone to chime in here if possible. 🙂

                "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  Panther Admin Moderators Lobby Moderators @ubernaut
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                  @ubernaut I'm sorry I am not familiar with the special rules of TWW.

                  Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                    ubernaut Lobby Moderators @Panther
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                    @panther ok thanks for the reply anyway 🙂 @lich let me see if i can find where i saw that otherwise i guess we'll allow it i know the rules changed regarding those other units in 3.0 i want to say it's related but you know maybe i'm wrong too 😛

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                      ubernaut Lobby Moderators @Lich
                      last edited by ubernaut

                      @lich you were right i was wrong found this move by redrum in 3.0.0.6 where he makes that move i guess i was confused 😛

                      https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/27817

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                        TripleA Turn Summary: Finland round 2

                        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Total World War: December 1941 3.0

                        Game History

                        Round: 2
                        
                            Reconnaissance Missions - Finland
                                Finland collect 0 PUs; end with 9 PUs
                        
                            Reinforcing - DanubeAxis
                                DanubeAxis collect 0 PUs; end with 12 PUs
                        
                            Counter Intelligence Operations - VichyFrance
                                VichyFrance collect 0 PUs; end with 17 PUs
                        
                            Research Technology - Germany
                                Trigger germanaTIFR: Germany gains access to IncreasedFighterRange
                                Trigger germanaTITB: Germany gains access to ImprovedTacticalBombers
                                Trigger germanaTIC: Germany gains access to ImprovedCarriers
                                Trigger germanaTIP: Germany gains access to ImprovedProduction
                                Trigger germanaTAH: Germany gains access to AdvancedHulls
                                Germany spend 0 on tech rolls
                                    Germany roll 5,9,6,11,7,3,10,11,10 and gets 0 hits
                        
                            Combat Move - Germany
                                Trigger germanAirtraninfra1: Setting isInfrastructure to false for unitAttachment attached to germanAirTransport
                                Trigger germanAirtraninfra1: Setting attack to 1 for unitAttachment attached to germanAirTransport
                                Trigger germanAirtraninfra1: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy cleared for unitAttachment attached to germanAirTransport
                                Trigger germanHvyTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to germanHeavyTank
                                Trigger germanTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to germanTank
                                Trigger germanMecht3: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to germanMech.Infantry
                                Trigger germanMecht4: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to germanMech.Infantry
                                Trigger germanHvyTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to germanHeavyTank
                                Trigger germanTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to germanTank
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 14 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
                                1 germanAlpineInfantry and 1 germanInfantry moved from Northern Finland to Murmansk
                                1 germanAlpineInfantry and 1 germanInfantry moved from Eastern Finland to Murmansk
                                2 germanNavalFighters moved from Norway to Murmansk
                                1 germanStrategicBomber moved from Eastern Poland to Murmansk
                                1 germanTacticalBomber moved from Denmark to Murmansk
                                1 germanAirTransport and 1 germanParatrooper moved from Finland to Murmansk
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 70 Sea Zone
                                1 germanArtillery and 3 germanInfantrys moved from Southern Ukraine to Eastern Ukraine
                                1 germanFighter moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Ukraine
                                1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber moved from Belorussia to Eastern Ukraine
                        
                            Combat - Germany
                                Battle in Eastern Ukraine
                                    Germany attack with 1 germanArtillery, 1 germanFighter, 3 germanInfantrys, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber
                                    Russia defend with 1 Flagpole, 1 russianAlpineInfantry and 2 russianArtillerys
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanArtillery, 1 germanFighter, 3 germanInfantrys, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber in Eastern Ukraine, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                        Russia roll dice for 1 russianAlpineInfantry and 2 russianArtillerys in Eastern Ukraine, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.92 expected hits
                                        1 russianAlpineInfantry owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanArtillery, 1 germanFighter, 3 germanInfantrys, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber in Eastern Ukraine, round 3 : 3/7 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                        Russia roll dice for 2 russianArtillerys in Eastern Ukraine, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                        1 germanInfantry owned by the Germany lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                        2 russianArtillerys owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                    Germany win, taking Eastern Ukraine from Russia with 1 germanArtillery, 1 germanFighter, 2 germanInfantrys, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                    Casualties for Russia: 1 russianAlpineInfantry and 2 russianArtillerys
                                    Casualties for Germany: 1 germanInfantry
                                Battle in 13 Sea Zone
                                    Germany attack with 2 germanSubmarines
                                    Britain defend with 1 britishTransport
                                        Germany roll dice for 2 germanSubmarines in 13 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                        1 britishTransport owned by the Britain lost in 13 Sea Zone
                                    Germany win with 2 germanSubmarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                                    Casualties for Britain: 1 britishTransport
                                Battle in Murmansk
                                    Germany attack with 1 germanAirTransport, 2 germanAlpineInfantrys, 2 germanInfantrys, 2 germanNavalFighters, 1 germanParatrooper, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber
                                    Britain defend with 1 britishAlpineInfantry; Russia defend with 1 Flagpole, 1 Material, 1 Rail, 1 Truck, 1 russianAntiAirGun, 1 russianDocks, 1 russianEntrenchment and 1 russianInfantry
                                        Russia roll AntiAircraftGun dice in Murmansk : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanAirTransport, 2 germanAlpineInfantrys, 2 germanInfantrys, 2 germanNavalFighters, 1 germanParatrooper, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber in Murmansk, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                        Russia roll dice for 1 britishAlpineInfantry, 1 russianAntiAirGun, 1 russianEntrenchment and 1 russianInfantry in Murmansk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.42 expected hits
                                        1 germanInfantry owned by the Germany lost in Murmansk
                                        1 russianInfantry owned by the Russia and 1 russianAntiAirGun owned by the Russia lost in Murmansk
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanAirTransport, 2 germanAlpineInfantrys, 1 germanInfantry, 2 germanNavalFighters, 1 germanParatrooper, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber in Murmansk, round 3 : 0/8 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                        Russia roll dice for 1 britishAlpineInfantry and 1 russianEntrenchment in Murmansk, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.92 expected hits
                                        1 germanInfantry owned by the Germany lost in Murmansk
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanAirTransport, 2 germanAlpineInfantrys, 2 germanNavalFighters, 1 germanParatrooper, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber in Murmansk, round 4 : 4/7 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                                        Russia roll dice for 1 britishAlpineInfantry and 1 russianEntrenchment in Murmansk, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                                        1 germanParatrooper owned by the Germany lost in Murmansk
                                        1 russianEntrenchment owned by the Russia and 1 britishAlpineInfantry owned by the Britain lost in Murmansk
                                    Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
                                    Germany win, taking Murmansk from Russia with 1 germanAirTransport, 2 germanAlpineInfantrys, 2 germanNavalFighters, 1 germanStrategicBomber and 1 germanTacticalBomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                                    Casualties for Germany: 2 germanInfantrys and 1 germanParatrooper
                                    Casualties for Russia: 1 russianAntiAirGun, 1 russianEntrenchment and 1 russianInfantry
                                    Casualties for Britain: 1 britishAlpineInfantry
                                Battle in 20 Sea Zone
                                    Germany attack with 1 germanSubmarine
                                    Britain defend with 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanSubmarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                        Britain roll dice for 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 germanSubmarine owned by the Germany lost in 20 Sea Zone
                                    Britain win with 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                                    Casualties for Germany: 1 germanSubmarine
                                Battle in 70 Sea Zone
                                    Germany attack with 1 germanSubmarine
                                    Britain defend with 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanSubmarine in 70 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                        Britain roll dice for 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport in 70 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        Germany roll dice for 1 germanSubmarine in 70 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                        Britain roll dice for 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport in 70 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 germanSubmarine owned by the Germany lost in 70 Sea Zone
                                    Britain win with 1 britishDestroyer and 1 britishTransport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                                    Casualties for Germany: 1 germanSubmarine
                        
                            Non Combat Move - Germany
                                Trigger germanMecht1: Setting isLandTransport to true for unitAttachment attached to germanMech.Infantry
                                Trigger IncomeRegulationVichy1: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentYesVichy attached to VichyFrance
                                Trigger germanAirtraninfra2: Setting isInfrastructure to true for unitAttachment attached to germanAirTransport
                                Trigger germanAirtraninfra2: Setting attack to 0 for unitAttachment attached to germanAirTransport
                                Trigger germanAirtraninfra2: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy to FROM:Germany for unitAttachment attached to germanAirTransport
                                Trigger germanMecht2: Setting isLandTransport to false for unitAttachment attached to germanMech.Infantry
                                Trigger germanProd: Germany has 1 Material placed in Berlin
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
                                1 germanFighter moved from Eastern Ukraine to Kharkov
                                1 germanFighter moved from Crete to Kharkov
                                2 germanNavalFighters moved from Murmansk to Eastern Finland
                                1 germanTacticalBomber moved from Murmansk to Eastern Finland
                                1 germanStrategicBomber moved from Murmansk to Eastern Finland
                                1 germanAirTransport moved from Murmansk to Finland
                                1 germanAntiTankGun, 1 germanArtillery and 1 germanInfantry moved from Pskov to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanAntiTankGun and 1 germanArtillery moved from Smolensk to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanTacticalBomber moved from Eastern Ukraine to Kharkov
                                1 germanAirTransport moved from Poland to Crete
                                1 germanTransport moved from 50 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
                                1 Train moved from Tunisia to 48 Sea Zone
                                1 Train and 1 germanTransport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                1 Train moved from 46 Sea Zone to Rome
                                1 germanDestroyer moved from 50 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
                                1 germanArtillery and 1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Vichy France to Northern Yugoslavia
                                1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Paris to Vichy France
                                2 Materials, 1 Truck and 1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Vichy France to Paris
                                1 germanBattleship, 1 germanCruiser and 2 germanDestroyers moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 28 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 23 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                1 germanSubmarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                1 germanArtillery, 1 germanCombatEngineer and 2 germanInfantrys moved from Finland to Eastern Finland
                                1 Truck and 1 germanArtillery moved from Central Norway to Northern Finland
                                1 germanArtillery moved from Northern Norway to Northern Finland
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Lativa Estonia to Pskov
                                4 germanFighters moved from Northern Germany to Belorussia
                                1 Train moved from Eastern Poland to Eastern Germany
                                1 germanArtillery and 1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Lativa Estonia to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanArtillery moved from Belorussia to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanAntiTankGun, 1 germanCombatEngineer, 2 germanInfantrys, 1 germanMech.Infantry and 3 germanTanks moved from Southern Ukraine to Kharkov
                                1 germanStrategicBomber moved from Eastern Ukraine to Kharkov
                                1 germanAntiTankGun, 1 germanCombatEngineer and 1 germanInfantry moved from Belorussia to Orel Kursk
                                1 Truck moved from Southern Ukraine to Romania
                                1 germanAntiTankGun moved from Bessarabia to Southern Ukraine
                                1 Truck and 1 germanArtillery moved from Eastern Poland to Kharkov
                                3 germanInfantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Kharkov
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Pinsk Marshes to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanInfantry and 1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanArtillery moved from Western Ukraine to Kharkov
                                1 germanTank moved from Pskov to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanTank moved from Belorussia to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanTank moved from Eastern Poland to Orel Kursk
                                5 germanInfantrys moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
                                1 Truck and 1 germanAlpineInfantry moved from Hungary Slovakia to Belorussia
                                1 germanArtillery and 1 germanInfantry moved from Lithuania to Belorussia
                                1 germanArtillery and 2 germanInfantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belorussia
                                2 germanInfantrys moved from Poland to Lithuania
                                1 germanArtillery and 1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Eastern Germany to Lithuania
                                1 Train moved from Belorussia to Hungary Slovakia
                                1 Train and 1 germanAntiAirGun moved from Hungary Slovakia to Vichy France
                                1 germanTank moved from Northern Italy to Romania
                                5 germanInfantrys moved from Eastern Germany to Poland
                                4 germanInfantrys moved from Northern Germany to Eastern Germany
                                1 Truck and 1 germanCombatEngineer moved from Poland to Belorussia
                                2 Materials and 1 Train moved from Eastern Germany to Belorussia
                                1 germanAlpineInfantry moved from Northern Norway to Northern Finland
                                1 germanParatrooper moved from Central Norway to Northern Norway
                                1 Truck moved from Northern Finland to Northern Norway
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Central Norway to Northern Norway
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Norway to Central Norway
                                1 germanInfantry and 1 germanMarine moved from Low Countries to 25 Sea Zone
                                1 germanInfantry, 1 germanMarine and 1 germanTransport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
                                1 germanInfantry and 1 germanMarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Lithuania
                                1 germanCombatEngineer moved from Algeria to Morrocco
                                2 germanTanks moved from Tobruk to Cyrenaica
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Tripolitania to Algeria
                                2 germanMech.Infantrys moved from Tobruk to Cyrenaica
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Cyrenaica to Al Kufrah
                                1 germanArtillery moved from Tripolitania to Algeria
                                1 germanInfantry moved from West Africa to French West Africa
                                1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Cyrenaica to Tobruk
                                1 germanTank moved from Cyrenaica to Tobruk
                                1 germanStrategicBomber moved from Eastern Finland to Finland
                                1 germanArtillery and 2 germanInfantrys moved from Kharkov to Orel Kursk
                                1 germanTank moved from Orel Kursk to Kharkov
                                1 Truck moved from Tripolitania to Algeria
                                1 germanAntiAirGun and 1 germanMech.Infantry moved from Belorussia to Kharkov
                                1 germanAntiTankGun moved from Kharkov to Orel Kursk
                                1 Truck and 1 germanAntiAirGun moved from Paris to Northern France
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Lativa Estonia to Pskov
                                1 germanInfantry moved from Orel Kursk to Smolensk
                        
                            Purchase Units - Germany
                                Germany buy 1 Truck, 1 germanBarracks, 1 germanFactory, 1 germanFighter, 8 germanInfantrys, 4 germanMech.Infantrys and 1 germanTacticalBomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 9 techTokens; 
                        
                            Place Units - Germany
                                Units in Belorussia being upgraded or consumed: 2 Materials
                                1 germanFactory placed in Belorussia
                                Units in Paris being upgraded or consumed: 2 Materials
                                1 germanBarracks placed in Paris
                                1 Truck placed in Western Germany
                                4 germanMech.Infantrys placed in Eastern Germany
                                1 germanFighter and 1 germanTacticalBomber placed in Southern Germany
                                4 germanInfantrys placed in Northern Germany
                                2 germanInfantrys placed in Berlin
                                2 germanInfantrys placed in Austria
                        
                            Activate Technology - Germany
                                Trigger germanIH2: Setting attack to 7 for unitAttachment attached to germanBattleship
                                Trigger germanIH3: Setting attack to 7 for unitAttachment attached to germanBattleship-damaged
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting attack to 6 for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting isAAforCombatOnly to true for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting mayOverStackAA to true for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting maxAAattacks to 1 for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting maxRoundsAA to -1 for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting typeAA to CruiserAntiAircraftGun for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                                Trigger germanIH1: Setting targetsAA to germanAdvancedTacticalBomber:germanAdvancedNavalFighter:russianAdvancedTacticalBomber:russianAdvancedNavalFighter:japaneseAdvancedTacticalBomber:japaneseAdvancedNavalFighter:britishAdvancedTacticalBomber:britishAdvancedNavalFighter:italianAdvancedTacticalBomber:italianAdvancedNavalFighter:americanAdvancedTacticalBomber:americanAdvancedNavalFighter:germanFighter:germanAdvancedFighter:germanNavalFighter:germanTacticalBomber:germanStrategicBomber:germanHeavyStrategicBomber:germanAirTransport:italianFighter:italianAdvancedFighter:italianNavalFighter:italianTacticalBomber:italianStrategicBomber:italianHeavyStrategicBomber:italianAirTransport:japaneseFighter:japaneseAdvancedFighter:japaneseNavalFighter:japaneseTacticalBomber:japaneseStrategicBomber:japaneseHeavyStrategicBomber:japaneseAirTransport:brazilianFighter:swedishFighter:spanishFighter:turkishFighter:chineseFighter:chineseTacticalBomber:russianFighter:russianAdvancedFighter:russianNavalFighter:russianTacticalBomber:russianStrategicBomber:russianHeavyStrategicBomber:russianAirTransport:britishFighter:britishAdvancedFighter:britishNavalFighter:britishTacticalBomber:britishStrategicBomber:britishHeavyStrategicBomber:britishAirTransport:americanFighter:americanAdvancedFighter:americanNavalFighter:americanTacticalBomber:americanStrategicBomber:americanHeavyStrategicBomber:americanAirTransport for unitAttachment attached to germanCruiser
                        
                            Turn Complete - Germany
                                Germany collect 69 PUs; end with 69 PUs
                                Units generate 9 techTokens; Germany end with 18 techTokens
                                Units Change Ownership
                                    Some Units in Eastern Finland change ownership: 1 germanCombatEngineer
                                    Some Units in Finland change ownership: 1 Material
                                    Some Units in Morrocco change ownership: 1 germanCombatEngineer
                                    Some Units in West Africa change ownership: 1 Material and 1 germanCombatEngineer
                        
                            Purchase Units - VichyFrance
                                Trigger VichyMaterial: 1 Material gained by PlayerId named:VichyFrance
                                VichyFrance buy 1 Material and 1 germanFighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                        
                            Place Units - VichyFrance
                                2 Materials and 1 germanFighter placed in Vichy France
                        
                            Turn Complete - VichyFrance
                                VichyFrance collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs
                                Objective Algeria: VichyFrance met a national objective for an additional -2 PUs; end with 20 PUs
                                Objective Morrocco: VichyFrance met a national objective for an additional -2 PUs; end with 18 PUs
                                Units Change Ownership
                                    Some Units in Morrocco change ownership: 1 germanCombatEngineer
                                    Some Units in Vichy France change ownership: 2 Materials and 1 germanFighter
                                    Some Units in West Africa change ownership: 1 Material and 1 germanCombatEngineer
                        
                            Purchase Units - DanubeAxis
                                DanubeAxis buy 4 germanInfantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                        
                            Place Units - DanubeAxis
                                4 germanInfantrys placed in Romania
                        
                            Turn Complete - DanubeAxis
                                DanubeAxis collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
                                Some Units in Romania change ownership: 4 germanInfantrys
                        
                            Purchase Units - Finland
                                Finland buy 3 germanInfantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                        
                            Place Units - Finland
                                3 germanInfantrys placed in Finland
                        
                            Turn Complete - Finland
                                Finland collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs
                                Units Change Ownership
                                    Some Units in Eastern Finland change ownership: 1 germanCombatEngineer
                                    Some Units in Finland change ownership: 1 Material and 3 germanInfantrys
                                    Some Units in Murmansk change ownership: 1 Material and 1 Truck
                        

                        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                        Germany regular : 1.25
                        Russia AntiAircraftGun : -0.08
                        Russia regular : -0.75
                        Britain regular : 1.00
                        

                        Savegame

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                          Lich
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                          @ubernaut ok cool.

                          And the extra time has given me a chance to think a bit more carefully about Germany's ncm and I decided to change a few things around. Main changes are keeping N.France army put instead of moving to Low Countries and swapping recruitment of 2nd tact for a fighter + truck.

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                            ubernaut Lobby Moderators @Lich
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                            @lich ok i was looking at my move yesterday but wasnt very far into it so i'll take another look probably later today

                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                              ubernaut Lobby Moderators
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                              TripleA Move Summary: Russia round 2

                              TripleA Move Summary for game: Total World War: December 1941 3.0

                              Game History

                              Round: 2
                              
                                  Research Technology - Russia
                                      Russia spend 0 on tech rolls
                                      Russia removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
                                      Russia discover Production
                              
                                  Combat Move - Russia
                                      Trigger russianAirtraninfra1: Setting isInfrastructure to false for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                      Trigger russianAirtraninfra1: Setting attack to 1 for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                      Trigger russianAirtraninfra1: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy cleared for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                      Trigger russianHvyTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to russianHeavyTank
                                      Trigger russianTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to russianTank
                                      Trigger russianL4: Setting movement to 6 for unitAttachment attached to Train
                                      Trigger russianMecht3: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to russianMech.Infantry
                                      Trigger russianL2: Setting movement to 3 for unitAttachment attached to Truck
                                      Trigger AltayLLRussia1: Russia takes ownership of territory Altay
                                      1 russianDestroyer moved from 14 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
                                      1 russianSubmarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 120 Sea Zone
                                      1 russianSubmarine moved from 29 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
                                      1 russianFighter moved from Eastern Karelia to Smolensk
                                      2 russianInfantrys moved from Moscow to Smolensk
                                      1 russianStrategicBomber moved from Voronezh to Western Ukraine
                                      2 russianFighters and 2 russianInfantrys moved from Voronezh to Eastern Ukraine
                                      1 russianInfantry and 1 russianTacticalBomber moved from Caucasus to Eastern Ukraine
                              

                              Savegame

                              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                @lich got a battle or two here

                                "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                  @ubernaut in the lobby

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                                    TripleA Turn Summary: Russia round 2

                                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Total World War: December 1941 3.0

                                    Game History

                                    Round: 2
                                    
                                        Research Technology - Russia
                                            Russia spend 0 on tech rolls
                                                Russia roll 9,1,5,8,5,12,10,8,7,8,8 and gets 1 hit
                                            Russia removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
                                            Russia discover Production
                                    
                                        Combat Move - Russia
                                            Trigger russianAirtraninfra1: Setting isInfrastructure to false for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                            Trigger russianAirtraninfra1: Setting attack to 1 for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                            Trigger russianAirtraninfra1: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy cleared for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                            Trigger russianHvyTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to russianHeavyTank
                                            Trigger russianTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to russianTank
                                            Trigger russianL4: Setting movement to 6 for unitAttachment attached to Train
                                            Trigger russianMecht3: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to russianMech.Infantry
                                            Trigger russianL2: Setting movement to 3 for unitAttachment attached to Truck
                                            Trigger AltayLLRussia1: Russia takes ownership of territory Altay
                                            Trigger russianHvyTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to russianHeavyTank
                                            Trigger russianTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to russianTank
                                            Trigger russianMecht4: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to russianMech.Infantry
                                            1 russianDestroyer moved from 14 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
                                            1 russianSubmarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 120 Sea Zone
                                            1 russianSubmarine moved from 29 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
                                            1 russianFighter moved from Eastern Karelia to Smolensk
                                            2 russianInfantrys moved from Moscow to Smolensk
                                            1 russianStrategicBomber moved from Voronezh to Western Ukraine
                                            2 russianFighters and 2 russianInfantrys moved from Voronezh to Eastern Ukraine
                                            1 russianInfantry and 1 russianTacticalBomber moved from Caucasus to Eastern Ukraine
                                            1 russianFighter moved from Moscow to Eastern Ukraine
                                    
                                        Combat - Russia
                                            Germany scrambles 2 units out of Kharkov to defend against the attack in Eastern Ukraine
                                            Strategic bombing raid in Western Ukraine
                                                Bombing raid in Western Ukraine rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: Rail
                                                Bombing raid in Western Ukraine causes 6 damage total. 
                                                    1 Rail owned by the Germany lost in Western Ukraine
                                            Battle in 27 Sea Zone
                                                Russia attack with 1 russianSubmarine
                                                Germany defend with 2 germanBattleships, 1 germanCruiser, 2 germanDestroyers and 1 germanTransport
                                                1 russianSubmarine owned by the Russia submerged
                                            Battle in 120 Sea Zone
                                                Russia attack with 1 russianSubmarine
                                                Japan defend with 2 japaneseTransports
                                                    Russia roll dice for 1 russianSubmarine in 120 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                    Japan roll dice for 2 japaneseTransports in 120 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                    Russia roll dice for 1 russianSubmarine in 120 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                    1 japaneseTransport owned by the Japan lost in 120 Sea Zone
                                                    Japan roll dice for 1 japaneseTransport in 120 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                                    Russia roll dice for 1 russianSubmarine in 120 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                    1 japaneseTransport owned by the Japan lost in 120 Sea Zone
                                                Russia winGermany winGermany win with 2 germanBattleships, 1 germanCruiser, 2 germanDestroyers and 1 germanTransport remaining with 2 germanBattleships, 1 germanCruiser, 2 germanDestroyers and 1 germanTransport remaining with 1 russianSubmarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                                                Casualties for Japan: 2 japaneseTransports
                                            Battle in 13 Sea Zone
                                                Russia attack with 1 russianDestroyer
                                                Germany defend with 2 germanSubmarines
                                                    Russia roll DepthChargeAttack dice in 13 Sea Zone : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                                2 germanSubmarines owned by the Germany submerged
                                            Battle in Smolensk
                                                Russia attack with 1 russianFighter and 2 russianInfantrys
                                                Germany defend with 1 Flagpole and 1 germanInfantry
                                                    Russia roll dice for 1 russianFighter and 2 russianInfantrys in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                                    Germany roll dice for 1 germanInfantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                    Russia roll dice for 1 russianFighter and 2 russianInfantrys in Smolensk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                                    Germany roll dice for 1 germanInfantry in Smolensk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                    1 germanInfantry owned by the Germany lost in Smolensk
                                                Russia winRussia winRussia win, taking 13 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 russianDestroyer remaining with 1 russianDestroyer remaining, taking Smolensk from Germany with 1 russianFighter and 2 russianInfantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                Casualties for Germany: 1 germanInfantry
                                            Battle in Eastern Ukraine
                                                Russia attack with 3 russianFighters, 3 russianInfantrys and 1 russianTacticalBomber
                                                Germany defend with 1 Flagpole, 1 germanArtillery, 2 germanFighters and 2 germanInfantrys
                                                    Russia roll dice for 3 russianFighters, 3 russianInfantrys and 1 russianTacticalBomber in Eastern Ukraine, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                                    Germany roll dice for 1 germanArtillery, 2 germanFighters and 2 germanInfantrys in Eastern Ukraine, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                                    1 russianInfantry owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                                    1 germanInfantry owned by the Germany lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                                    Russia roll dice for 3 russianFighters, 2 russianInfantrys and 1 russianTacticalBomber in Eastern Ukraine, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                                    Germany roll dice for 1 germanArtillery, 2 germanFighters and 1 germanInfantry in Eastern Ukraine, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.58 expected hits
                                                    2 russianInfantrys owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                                    1 germanInfantry owned by the Germany, 1 germanArtillery owned by the Germany and 1 germanFighter owned by the Germany lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                                    Russia roll dice for 3 russianFighters and 1 russianTacticalBomber in Eastern Ukraine, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                                    Germany roll dice for 1 germanFighter in Eastern Ukraine, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                                    1 russianFighter owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                                    1 germanFighter owned by the Germany lost in Eastern Ukraine
                                                Russia win with 2 russianFighters and 1 russianTacticalBomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                                                Casualties for Russia: 1 russianFighter and 3 russianInfantrys
                                                Casualties for Germany: 1 germanArtillery, 2 germanFighters and 2 germanInfantrys
                                            Trigger russianMecht1: Setting isLandTransport to true for unitAttachment attached to russianMech.Infantry
                                            Trigger IncomeRegulationVichy2: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachmentYesVichy attached to VichyFrance
                                            Trigger russianAirtraninfra2: Setting isInfrastructure to true for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                            Trigger russianAirtraninfra2: Setting attack to 0 for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                            Trigger russianAirtraninfra2: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy to FROM:Russia for unitAttachment attached to russianAirTransport
                                            Trigger russianL5: Setting movement to 5 for unitAttachment attached to Train
                                            Trigger russianMecht2: Setting isLandTransport to false for unitAttachment attached to russianMech.Infantry
                                            Trigger russianL3: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to Truck
                                            Trigger AltayLLRussia2: China takes ownership of territory Altay
                                            1 russianStrategicBomber moved from Western Ukraine to Caucasus
                                            1 russianFighter and 1 russianTacticalBomber moved from Eastern Ukraine to Stalingrad
                                            1 russianFighter moved from Eastern Ukraine to Caucasus
                                            1 russianFighter moved from Smolensk to Caucasus
                                            1 russianAirTransport moved from Voronezh to Urals
                                            1 russianTransport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
                                            1 russianInfantry moved from Crimea to 56 Sea Zone
                                            1 russianInfantry moved from 56 Sea Zone to Caucasus
                                            1 russianDestroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
                                            1 russianTransport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
                                            1 Train, 1 russianAntiTankGun and 1 russianArtillery moved from Archangel to Leningrad
                                            1 Train and 2 russianAntiAirGuns moved from Leningrad to Moscow
                                            1 Train moved from Moscow to Vologda
                                            1 Train, 1 russianAlpineInfantry and 1 russianAntiAirGun moved from Omsk to Caucasus
                                            1 Train moved from Caucasus to Omsk
                                            1 Truck moved from Eastern Karelia to Archangel
                                            1 Material and 1 Truck moved from Archangel to Moscow
                                            1 Truck moved from Caucasus to Voronezh
                                            1 Truck and 1 russianAntiAirGun moved from Voronezh to Stalingrad
                                            1 Truck moved from Stalingrad to Volgarod
                                            1 Truck moved from Stalingrad to Volgarod
                                            1 Truck and 1 russianAntiAirGun moved from Volgarod to Caucasus
                                            1 Truck and 1 russianAntiAirGun moved from Stalingrad to Eastern Karelia
                                            1 Material and 1 Truck moved from Irkutsk to Altay
                                            1 Truck and 1 russianArtillery moved from Soviet Far East to Khabarovskiy Kray
                                            1 Truck moved from Khabarovskiy Kray to Far Eastern Republic
                                            1 russianAntiTankGun and 1 russianMech.Infantry moved from Leningrad to Moscow
                                            2 russianTanks moved from Novgorod to Tula
                                            1 russianAntiAirGun, 1 russianMech.Infantry and 6 russianTanks moved from Voronezh to Tula
                                            1 russianAntiAirGun and 1 russianMech.Infantry moved from Kansk to Omsk
                                            1 russianAntiAirGun, 1 russianMech.Infantry and 1 russianTank moved from Yakut to Khabarovskiy Kray
                                            1 russianAlpineInfantry and 1 russianInfantry moved from Western Karelia to Leningrad
                                            2 russianArtillerys moved from Novgorod to Moscow
                                            2 russianInfantrys moved from Moscow to Tula
                                            1 russianInfantry moved from Volgarod to Tula
                                            1 russianInfantry moved from Tula to Voronezh
                                            1 russianAlpineInfantry, 2 russianAntiTankGuns, 1 russianArtillery, 1 russianCombatEngineer and 1 russianParatrooper moved from Voronezh to Caucasus
                                            2 russianAntiTankGuns and 2 russianArtillerys moved from Voronezh to Tula
                                            1 russianInfantry moved from Stalingrad to Voronezh
                                            2 russianInfantrys moved from Stalingrad to Caucasus
                                            3 russianArtillerys and 1 russianCombatEngineer moved from Stalingrad to Tula
                                            2 russianInfantrys moved from Western Kazahk to Stalingrad
                                            1 russianAlpineInfantry moved from Astrakhan to Caucasus
                                            3 russianInfantrys moved from Irkutsk to Yakut
                                            1 russianAlpineInfantry, 1 russianAntiTankGun, 1 russianArtillery, 1 russianCombatEngineer and 2 russianInfantrys moved from Yakut to Khabarovskiy Kray
                                            1 russianAlpineInfantry moved from Far Eastern Republic to Khabarovskiy Kray
                                    
                                        Purchase Units - Russia
                                            Russia buy 1 russianArtillery, 17 russianInfantrys, 2 russianMech.Infantrys and 1 russianParatrooper; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 
                                    
                                        Place Units - Russia
                                            1 russianArtillery, 1 russianInfantry and 1 russianMech.Infantry placed in Stalingrad
                                            3 russianInfantrys and 1 russianMech.Infantry placed in Moscow
                                            2 russianInfantrys and 1 russianParatrooper placed in Urals
                                            2 russianInfantrys placed in Leningrad
                                            2 russianInfantrys placed in Vologda
                                            3 russianInfantrys placed in Volgarod
                                            2 russianInfantrys placed in Omsk
                                            2 russianInfantrys placed in Irkutsk
                                    
                                        Activate Technology - Russia
                                            Russia activating Production
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - Russia
                                            Trigger LLrMA: has removed 1 Material owned by Russia in Altay
                                            Trigger LLrTRA: has removed 1 Truck owned by Russia in Altay
                                            Trigger LLrMA: China has 1 Material placed in Altay
                                            Trigger LLrTRA: China has 1 Truck placed in Altay
                                            Russia collect 66 PUs; end with 66 PUs
                                            Units generate 6 techTokens; Russia end with 6 techTokens
                                    

                                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                    Russia DepthChargeAttack : -0.08
                                    Germany regular : -0.42
                                    Japan regular : -0.25
                                    Russia regular : 0.42
                                    

                                    Savegame

                                    "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                      @lich 🗾

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                                        @ubernaut ok cool. I've got a general combat plan and should have my final plan worked out either tonight or tomorrow. I think the only two decisions would be an obvious no scramble for China and ool for Hong Kong. I'll attack HK with planes and no tanks so would assume you want to take at, inf, aa, then trench (or maybe aa last).

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                                          @lich that battle can be highly variable i would want to wait for live battle probably up for another hour or so but if we can't do it tonight we can always shoot for tomorrow

                                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                            @ubernaut ok let's do the battles tomorrow then. I'm going to roll for tech now to see if Japan hits before making any plans.

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