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    Game 6, Europe, TGC (Germany) v. VF (Allies) - continuation

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    • VictoryFirstV Offline
      VictoryFirst
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      @The_Good_Captain

      Thank you, and good game! This game is indeed extremely tough as the Allies. The right balance between transports and fighters is still a question mark for me. And also on the EF the Russians need to kill as many German units as possible while keeping their own losses to a minimum, something that is quite tricky and oftentimes involves risky attacks. In any case, I was surprised to see that even such a massive early Allied advantage wasn't enough to stop the Germans. I feel like in this particular situation, the Allies CAN win, although I am not sure how. I challenge you to take the Allies with this G1 as a starting point, perhaps you can beat it.

      That German strategy is just a product of trying some stuff out and then finetuning. After the Med transport bid didn't work out, I tried an all-out attack on the EF, which turned out to be pretty effective. Over the course of several games, I made small improvements to the strategy based on those games (for example now I don't make attacks in Leningrad, Vyborg, one infantry takes Gibraltar, and now I don't attack the US fleet anymore, thanks to your comment, ha!). The games I have played on these forums have been very helpful.

      Again, thanks for playing. Over the years I have learned a lot from playing against you. I really appreciate these games 🙂

      Small question, you said there were 19 surviving German units, but I see 19 German tanks and 2 fighters. Shouldn't the fighters be included?

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        The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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        @victoryfirst you are 100% right about the fighters. That was a very bad battle for the poor Allies in the end...but still favored the Germans shockingly.

        I think your idea is a good one. Let me try something a little different than what you did with the Allies and see if there is a different final turn result (I want to see if I can get the percentages more in favor for the Allies than you did in our game). It will be a good learning experience. I will start with this configuration on R1. Should have the first turn out tonight.

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          The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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          @victoryfirst

          Game History

          Round: 1
          
              Purchase Units - Russians
                  Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
          
              Combat Move - Russians
                  3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  1 artillery moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  1 bomber moved from Moscow to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                  1 fighter moved from Moscow to East Poland
          
              Combat - Russians
                  Battle in East Poland
                      Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                      Germans defend with 2 armour
                          Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                          Germans roll dice for 2 armour in East Poland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                          1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                          1 armour owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                          Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                          Germans roll dice for 1 armour in East Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                          Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in East Poland, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                          Germans roll dice for 1 armour in East Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                          1 armour owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                      Russians win, taking East Poland from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                      Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                      Casualties for Germans: 2 armour
                  Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                      Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                      Germans defend with 2 armour and 1 infantry
                          Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 5/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                          Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                          1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                          1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                      Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                      Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                      Casualties for Germans: 2 armour and 1 infantry
          
              Non Combat Move - Russians
                  1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
                  2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia
                  3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia
                  1 armour moved from Caucasus to Belorussia
                  1 armour moved from Turkestan to Leningrad
                  1 armour moved from Siberia to Leningrad
                  1 armour moved from Archangel to Leningrad
                  2 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
                  1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
                  1 infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia
                  1 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia
                  1 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia
                  1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia
                  4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia
                  1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia
                  1 armour moved from Moscow to Leningrad
                  1 fighter moved from East Poland to Leningrad
                  1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Leningrad
                  1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Belorussia
                  2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
          
              Place Units - Russians
                  8 infantry placed in Leningrad
          
              Turn Complete - Russians
                  Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          Germans regular : -0.33
          Russians regular : 2.67
          
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            The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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            @victoryfirst

            Game History

            Round: 1
            
                Purchase Units - British
                    British buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 
            
                Combat Move - British
                    1 destroyer moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
                          British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans
                    1 armour moved from Egypt to Libya
                          British take Libya from Germans
                    1 armour moved from Libya to Egypt
            
                Combat - British
            
                Non Combat Move - British
                    1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Belorussia
                    2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
                    1 infantry moved from Iraq to Iran
                    1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
                    1 infantry moved from Palestine to Egypt
                    1 destroyer moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
            
                Place Units - British
                    2 transports placed in Davis Strait Sea Zone
            
                Turn Complete - British
                    British collect 21 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            
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              The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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              @victoryfirst

              Game History

              Round: 1
              
                  Purchase Units - Americans
                      Americans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
              
                  Combat Move - Americans
                      1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                            British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans
              
                  Combat - Americans
              
                  Non Combat Move - Americans
                      1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                      1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to United Kingdom
              
                  Place Units - Americans
                      1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                      1 fighter placed in United States
              
                  Turn Complete - Americans
                      Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
              

              USA1.tsvg

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              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                VictoryFirst
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                Are you OK if we do this in a separate thread? Just for me to more easily keep track of everything.

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                • VictoryFirstV Offline
                  VictoryFirst
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                  @The_Good_Captain Here is a link https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3975/vf-germany-vs-tgc-allies-original-europe-game-6b-the-atlantic-fiasco

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                    The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                    @victoryfirst

                    so you see a screen like this in the Discord?

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                      The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                      Matt Hyra sent me that and says he doesnt see you

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                        VictoryFirst @The_Good_Captain
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                        @the_good_captain f060fba2-8cca-43a8-b03c-115dfe92841e-image.png

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                          It looks like I'm in, I can see the main channels now.

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