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    VictoryFirst (Germany) vs. Kwas (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 6

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    • kwaspek104K Offline
      kwaspek104
      last edited by

      @VictoryFirst

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      • VictoryFirstV Offline
        VictoryFirst @kwaspek104
        last edited by

        @kwaspek104

        transport, destroyer,BB

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        • VictoryFirstV Offline
          VictoryFirst
          last edited by

          So yeah what you have selected there is fine

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          • kwaspek104K Offline
            kwaspek104
            last edited by

            @VictoryFirst i changed my mind about med fleet fight retreat. it was mutual destruction. whether that trade was worth it, we shall see...

            vf-allies1.tsvg

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            • kwaspek104K Offline
              kwaspek104
              last edited by

              @VictoryFirst oh yeah, can you edit down the British armour from canada and the AA gun to America? thanks!

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              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                VictoryFirst
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                TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                Game History

                Round: 2
                
                    Purchase Units - Germans
                        Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                
                    Combat Move - Germans
                        2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        2 fighters moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to English Channel Sea Zone
                        1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                        1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway
                        2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                        1 fighter moved from Germany to Norway
                        1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
                
                    Combat - Germans
                        Battle in Norway
                            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Norway
                            Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                        Battle in English Channel Sea Zone
                            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 transport
                            British defend with 1 destroyer
                                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 transport in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone
                            Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                
                    Non Combat Move - Germans
                        1 fighter moved from Norway to Finland
                        1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to East Poland
                        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                        1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                        2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                        2 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
                        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
                        1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
                        2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                        20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
                        1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany
                        2 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Germany
                        2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland
                        1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Northern Italy
                
                    Place Units - Germans
                        14 infantry placed in Germany
                
                    Turn Complete - Germans
                        Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                        Turning on Edit Mode
                        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 aaGun
                        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 armour
                        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United States: 1 aaGun and 1 armour
                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Russians regular : 0.33
                Germans regular : 2.67
                British regular : -0.50
                

                Savegame

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                • kwaspek104K Offline
                  kwaspek104
                  last edited by

                  @VictoryFirst vf-allies2.tsvg

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                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                    VictoryFirst
                    last edited by

                    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                    Game History

                    Round: 3
                    
                        Purchase Units - Germans
                            Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                    
                        Combat Move - Germans
                            2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            2 fighters moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                            1 fighter moved from Finland to Baltic States
                            1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States
                            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            1 armour moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                                  Germans take Tunisia from British
                            1 armour moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                            2 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
                    
                        Combat - Germans
                            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Baltic States
                                Germans attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
                                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                    
                        Non Combat Move - Germans
                            4 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                            2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                            18 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                            1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                    
                        Place Units - Germans
                            8 armour placed in Germany
                    
                        Turn Complete - Germans
                            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 47 PUs
                    

                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                    Russians regular : -0.33
                    Germans regular : -1.67
                    

                    Savegame

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                    • kwaspek104K Offline
                      kwaspek104
                      last edited by

                      @VictoryFirst

                      vf-allies3.tsvg

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                      • VictoryFirstV Offline
                        VictoryFirst
                        last edited by

                        TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

                        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                        Game History

                        Round: 4
                        
                            Purchase Units - Germans
                                Germans buy 8 armour and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                        
                            Combat Move - Germans
                                2 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
                                10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                                1 bomber moved from Germany to Belorussia
                                1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                                8 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States
                                6 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
                                7 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                                1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                        
                            Combat - Germans
                                Battle in Belorussia
                                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                    Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                                Battle in Karelia
                                    Germans attack with 7 infantry
                                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 7 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                                    Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                                Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                    Germans attack with 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry
                                    Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 16/46 hits, 13.33 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                        2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                    Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 28 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                    Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                                Battle in Baltic States
                                    Germans attack with 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry
                                    Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 10/33 hits, 10.50 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                        2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                                    Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                    Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                                Battle in Tunisia
                                    Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                    British defend with 1 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                        British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                                        Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                        British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the British lost in Tunisia
                                    Germans win, taking Tunisia from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                        
                            Non Combat Move - Germans
                                1 aaGun moved from East Poland to Baltic States
                                6 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                                1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Germany
                        
                            Place Units - Germans
                                8 armour and 2 infantry placed in Germany
                        
                            Turn Complete - Germans
                                Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 43 PUs
                        

                        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                        Russians regular : -1.00
                        Germans regular : 1.50
                        British regular : 0.33
                        

                        Savegame

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                        • kwaspek104K Offline
                          kwaspek104
                          last edited by

                          @VictoryFirst you should easily win this game lol

                          vf-allies4.tsvg

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                          • VictoryFirstV Offline
                            VictoryFirst
                            last edited by

                            TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                            Game History

                            Round: 5
                            
                                Purchase Units - Germans
                                    Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Germans
                                    10 armour, 7 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
                                    8 armour, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
                            
                                Combat - Germans
                                    Battle in Belorussia
                                        Germans attack with 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry
                                        Russians defend with 3 infantry
                                            Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 24/72 hits, 20.67 expected hits
                                            Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                            3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                        Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                        Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Germans
                                    1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
                                    8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                            
                                Place Units - Germans
                                    14 infantry placed in Germany
                            
                                Turn Complete - Germans
                                    Germans collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Russians regular : -1.00
                            Germans regular : 3.33
                            

                            Savegame

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                            • kwaspek104K Offline
                              kwaspek104
                              last edited by

                              @VictoryFirst

                              even if the brits didn't lose their fighters and bombers on turn 1, Americans bought 3 more fighters first 2 turns (total of 6), and Brits bought two more fighters, this battle would still heavily lean German. I included the 6 German fighters because the threat on Berlin would be significantly less with so much fighter purchasing.

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                              • kwaspek104K Offline
                                kwaspek104
                                last edited by

                                and you would maybe even be able to get away with buying a bomber on this german turn as well...

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                                • kwaspek104K Offline
                                  kwaspek104
                                  last edited by

                                  @VictoryFirst vf-allies5.tsvg

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                                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                    VictoryFirst
                                    last edited by

                                    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

                                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                    Game History

                                    Round: 6
                                    
                                        Purchase Units - Germans
                                            Germans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                                    
                                        Combat Move - Germans
                                            18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow
                                            2 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow
                                            1 bomber moved from Germany to Moscow
                                    
                                        Combat - Germans
                                            Battle in Moscow
                                                Germans attack with 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry
                                                Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 50 infantry
                                                    Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 23/75 hits, 22.33 expected hits
                                                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 50 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 15/64 hits, 21.67 expected hits
                                                    15 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                    21 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 bombers owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 31 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 20/60 hits, 19.83 expected hits
                                                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 29 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 15/41 hits, 14.33 expected hits
                                                    15 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                    20 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 16 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 16/45 hits, 17.33 expected hits
                                                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 8/21 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                                                    8 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                    9 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 5 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 8 infantry in Moscow, round 5 : 13/37 hits, 16.00 expected hits
                                                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 2 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 1/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                    2 fighters owned by the Russians and 3 armour owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                Germans captures 19PUs while taking Russians capital
                                                Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 132
                                                Casualties for Germans: 39 infantry
                                                Casualties for Russians: 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 50 infantry
                                    
                                        Non Combat Move - Germans
                                            Trigger GermanVictoryConditionsMet: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentGermanVictorySwitch attached to Germans
                                            1 bomber moved from Moscow to Belorussia
                                            6 armour moved from East Poland to Germany
                                    
                                        Place Units - Germans
                                            12 infantry placed in Germany
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - Germans
                                            Germans collect 33 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                                    

                                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                    Russians regular : -7.00
                                    Germans regular : -3.50
                                    Russians AA : -0.17
                                    

                                    Savegame

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                                    • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                      VictoryFirst @kwaspek104
                                      last edited by

                                      @kwaspek104

                                      Yep, that's why I think this game is heavily in favor of Germany (at least 90%) and the only way for them to lose is large defeats in both the Atlantic and the Eastern Front.

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                                      • kwaspek104K Offline
                                        kwaspek104
                                        last edited by

                                        gg lol.

                                        One more time? I can take the germans this time. If it's another blowout, I'll have to take TGC's suggestion and play with no Special Cash Advance (SCA) for the Germans...

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                                        • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                          VictoryFirst
                                          last edited by

                                          Hehe you are not going to try the Berlin attack? 🙂

                                          That sounds good to me!

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                                          • kwaspek104K Offline
                                            kwaspek104
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                                            i did, i just didn't post it here haha

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