@John-Cena The game is intended to be exclusively a WW II scenario. And while there will be special units for each nation... they are meant to be very historically based. As @redrum has mentioned... we are using a WW I scenario right now to develop and test some of the concepts proposed in this thread. Some of the other things planned for this map are as of yet not implemented in the engine.

TripleA Turn Summary: Gondor round 2 TripleA Turn Summary for game: Lord of the Rings: Middle Earth, version: 1.6 Game History Round: 2 Purchase Units - Gondor Gondor buy 1 heavyCavalry, 3 towers and 3 towerGuards; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Gondor 1 trebuche moved from Anorien to N. Ithilien 1 spearInfantry moved from Anorien to N. Ithilien Combat - Gondor Battle in N. Ithilien Gondor attack with 1 spearInfantry and 1 trebuche Mordor defend with 2 orcss Gondor roll dice for 1 spearInfantry and 1 trebuche in N. Ithilien, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits Mordor roll dice for 2 orcss in N. Ithilien, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 orcs owned by the Mordor lost in N. Ithilien Gondor roll dice for 1 spearInfantry and 1 trebuche in N. Ithilien, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits Mordor roll dice for 1 orcs in N. Ithilien, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 orcs owned by the Mordor lost in N. Ithilien Gondor win, taking N. Ithilien from Mordor with 1 spearInfantry and 1 trebuche remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Mordor: 2 orcss Non Combat Move - Gondor 2 spearInfantrys moved from Anorien to W. Osg. 4 towerGuards moved from Anorien to W. Osg. 3 towerGuards moved from Minas Tirith to Anorien 3 heavyCavalrys moved from Lebennin to W. Osg. 2 galleons moved from Anduin Mouth to Gilrain 3 spearInfantrys and 1 towerGuard moved from Lebennin to Gilrain 2 galleons, 3 spearInfantrys and 1 towerGuard moved from Gilrain to Anduin Mouth 1 towerGuard moved from Anduin Mouth to W. Osg. 3 spearInfantrys moved from Anduin Mouth to W. Osg. 6 undeads moved from Lamedon to Morthond 4 undeads moved from Lamedon to Lebennin 3 galleons and 6 undeads moved from Morthond to Anduin Mouth 6 undeads moved from Anduin Mouth to W. Osg. 1 caravel moved from Anduin Mouth to Gilrain 1 caravel moved from Anduin Mouth to N. E. Central Sea Zone 2 heavyCavalrys moved from E. Osg. to W. Osg. 8 spearInfantrys moved from E. Osg. to W. Osg. Place Units - Gondor 2 towers placed in W. Osg. 1 tower placed in Anfalas 1 heavyCavalry and 3 towerGuards placed in Minas Tirith Turn Complete - Gondor Gondor collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Mordor : -0.50 Gondor : 0.33 Savegame

Made a quick edit just to see what it would look like if every starting factory had a synth barrel like Germany does in the latest iteration. I think it could actually work pretty well PvP even if the fuel for purchase was capped at like just one synth barrel per territory. Basically the destroy-able synth barrels could be interpreted as the reserve supply within a factory territory or the fuel logistics/distribution network (the tankers and pipelines or trains and planes, stuff that can be blown up), while the capture-able regular barrels would be like the actual oil fields and the stuff still in the ground... All goes to the same totals for gameplay movement purposes, but since you need a factory already in place to produce a synth barrel, there is that slight delay if a territory is trading hands, before the it can be fully exploited. Thematically, the synth barrels could represent fuel that's already been refined and in use above ground, while the regular barrels are like what you're digging and drilling out of the earth. Or at least that's one way it could be imagined. all starting factories with synth fuel.tsvg I think with a tight cap at 1, players would have a pretty strong incentive to capture each other's factory locations (to destroy the enemy supply, and develop your own added fuel), contesting the various VC's and +5 spots in the process. Under such conditions the Gold tiles would be really key to expanding the fuel reserve beyond the starting threshold, and to keep from running dry on the march down the road, since you'd need all the factories you can grab to place enough synth barrel units. If it was capped at 1 per territory (just like the factory unit), that would probably give room to keep the wheels turning into the endgame, but without risking a runaway oil bananza like might happen with unlimited placement. If 1 is too narrow, then could always go up to 2 or 3 per, but I think 1 might actually be enough. Basically it would be like the green fuel barrel is associated with the factories, but has to built/replaced separately if destroyed. Maybe could also be subject to bombing? That might be cool. But even if it just worked like it does now I think it might be fun to use the unit to push the fight around the map a bit, building off the various contested factory locations. Anyhow, I don't think they need to be in place from the getgo, just wanted to see what the totals might look like in that edit above, but I like the idea that they have to be placed at an existing factories and that they get destroyed when conquered. It gives the whole game a cool new spin, since now you can knock off the opponents fuel as well as building up your own. Makes the resource management feel much more gratifying. Nice work! Also, here are couple edit saves I was going to use for the solo challenge. It adds 10 synth barrels to the starting factories for either side. Since the AI doesn't understand how fuel works or how to conserve it, this should allow the machine to build up a huge reserve and basically have infinite fuel or at least more than its likely to use. For a harder challenge will probably add an income boost on top of that, (maybe flat rate at like 10 or something to see how that looks first) but thought I'd start here now that we have the new fuel unit to play around with. I dig it Allies 10 synth fuel per starting factory.tsvg Axis 10 synth fuel per starting factory.tsvg

Also, it would be better for the "Age" bonuses/objectives (PUs and Tech) to be given at end turn ("Turn Complete"), at the same moment you normally collect PUs, instead of before purchase. It would be generally more coherent and it would help you figure what you want to do, upon planning your purchase, during Combat Movement and such, if you have your (and everyone else's) actual statistics already definite (especially in the moment you are making your Combat Movement, and want to look at what PUs you have, to know what you will able to purchase, on that turn, without having to know and add up the Age bonuses, on top of that).

I had another version of Japan6 where moving captured Material was done excessively. All North-China, Singkiang and Calcutta only taken minimally, grab all the Mat (except one in Calcutta) and turn onto Chungking. Chungking would always fall in Japan7 in that scenario. Still decided against that... not because of the rule issue, I just like this outcome better.

@redrum here you go M&M2.tsvg M&M1.tsvg

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1 TripleA Turn Summary for game: Big World : 1942, version: 2.5 Game History Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 10 armour and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from SZ 20 Atlantic to SZ 16 North Atlantic 1 fighter moved from France to SZ 16 North Atlantic 1 battleship moved from SZ 24 Tyrrhenian Sea to SZ 23 West Mediterranean 1 submarine moved from SZ 24 Tyrrhenian Sea to SZ 23 West Mediterranean 1 fighter moved from Italy to SZ 23 West Mediterranean 1 submarine moved from SZ 19 Atlantic to SZ 2 Labrador Sea 1 submarine moved from SZ 32 Atlantic to SZ 34 Atlantic 1 submarine moved from SZ 33 Atlantic to SZ 35 East Atlantic 1 submarine moved from SZ 39 Mid Atlantic to SZ 22 East Atlantic 1 artillery moved from Eastern Germany to SZ 11 West Baltic Sea 1 infantry moved from Eastern Germany to SZ 11 West Baltic Sea 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 11 West Baltic Sea to SZ 12 East Baltic Sea 1 artillery moved from Western Poland to SZ 12 East Baltic Sea 1 infantry moved from Western Poland to SZ 12 East Baltic Sea 2 infantry moved from SZ 12 East Baltic Sea to Leningrad 2 artilleries moved from SZ 12 East Baltic Sea to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelija Germans take Karelija from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Western Russia to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Belorussia to Leningrad 1 artillery moved from Western Russia to Northern Russia 1 infantry moved from Western Russia to Northern Russia 1 infantry moved from Western Russia to Northern Russia 1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Southern Russia 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Southern Russia 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Southern Russia 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Southern Russia 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Southern Russia 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Northern Russia 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Western Russia 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Belorussia 2 infantry moved from Hungary-Romania to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Balkans to Hungary-Romania 1 armour moved from Balkans to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Italy to Balkans 1 submarine moved from SZ 6 Norwegian Sea to SZ 9 North Atlantic 1 submarine moved from SZ 11 West Baltic Sea to SZ 9 North Atlantic 1 fighter moved from Norway to SZ 9 North Atlantic 1 bomber moved from Eastern Germany to SZ 9 North Atlantic 1 bomber moved from Baltic States to SZ 9 North Atlantic 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria Combat - Germans Battle in SZ 2 Labrador Sea Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 2 Labrador Sea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in SZ 2 Labrador Sea Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Southern Russia Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Southern Russia, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Russia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Russia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Southern Russia, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Russia, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Southern Russia, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Russia, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Russia 1 artillery retreated to Belorussia Russians win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Russia Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Northern Russia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Russia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Northern Russia, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Russia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northern Russia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Russia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Russia, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Russia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 6 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 7 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 8 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 8 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northern Russia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Northern Russia, round 9 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 9 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Northern Russia, round 10 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Russia, round 10 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Northern Russia Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in SZ 9 North Atlantic Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 submarines British defend with 1 battleship, 1 submarine and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in SZ 9 North Atlantic, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British British roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 9 North Atlantic, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in SZ 9 North Atlantic, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in SZ 9 North Atlantic, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British, 2 submarines owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in SZ 9 North Atlantic Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in SZ 9 North Atlantic, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 9 North Atlantic, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in SZ 9 North Atlantic Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 submarine and 1 transport Battle in SZ 23 West Mediterranean Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 battleship Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 fighter in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 fighter in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British British roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in SZ 23 West Mediterranean Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 fighter in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 23 West Mediterranean, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in SZ 23 West Mediterranean Germans win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship Battle in Leningrad Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 8 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 3.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 8 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 4/9 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 8 infantry Battle in SZ 16 North Atlantic Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in SZ 16 North Atlantic Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in SZ 16 North Atlantic, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in SZ 16 North Atlantic Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from SZ 9 North Atlantic to Eastern Germany 1 bomber moved from SZ 9 North Atlantic to Norway 1 fighter moved from SZ 16 North Atlantic to France 1 transport moved from SZ 25 Adriatic Sea to SZ 23 West Mediterranean 1 infantry moved from Sardinia to SZ 23 West Mediterranean 1 infantry moved from SZ 23 West Mediterranean to Algeria 1 armour moved from Italy to Hungary-Romania 1 fighter moved from Southern Russia to Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belorussia 1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Belorussia 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Western Poland to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Eastern Germany to Western Poland 4 infantry moved from Eastern Germany to Western Poland 2 armour moved from Eastern Germany to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Western Germany to Western Poland 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Eastern Germany 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Eastern Germany 1 fighter moved from Eastern Germany to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Hungary-Romania 1 artillery moved from Italy to Balkans 2 infantry moved from Italy to Balkans 1 infantry moved from Vichy France to Italy 3 infantry moved from France to Vichy France 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany 1 armour moved from France to Eastern Germany 3 infantry moved from Austria-Czechoslovakia to Hungary-Romania 1 armour moved from Austria-Czechoslovakia to Macedonia 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 artillery moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 armour moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 fighter moved from Northern Russia to Belorussia Place Units - Germans 1 destroyer placed in SZ 11 West Baltic Sea 6 armour placed in Italy 4 armour placed in Eastern Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 61 PUs; end with 63 PUs 1 unit repaired. Combat Hit Differential Summary : Germans : -10.17 British : 0.83 Russians : -3.00 Savegame

You guys are awesome! It is working now, thanks for the incredible fast help.

As this thread concerns the playing and strategy of a map, it is moved to The War Club category.

@redrum right on. i'll make a request a little later. was trying to get some more info on why it was doing it. Thanks

@Schulz Moving to Maps & Mods.

@LouisXIVXIV Congratulations. Thanks for the shout out.

@CrazyIvan I fully understand that. However it is not "unstable" in a sense that it crashes your system. In fact it is a constant further development of the current stable. But yes, stick to the current stable for now. There is enough to learn

@RoiEX Thanks for the reply. Getting ready to give it another go. I found where I needed to be, but wasn't able to figure out how to dl/copy the file(s) I wanted. Anyway, pretty sure I know what the problem is and am making a test mod with just the one change to see if it shows up.

@RoiEX said in Graphics Problems?: Java is sometimes weird with graphics. There's not anything we can really do about it. Maybe when we migrate to JavaFX the problems will go away, but this is still a far future goal Understood, thanks for the reply! Its not that big a deal once I found the workaround. I was very happy to find this game!!

@Panzer-V You may want to check out the Global 40 league on A&A: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/category/29/league

@Captain-Crunch Always fills my heart with joy when I see new posts in this thread.

@RoiEX so that was actually the same. i tried reinstalling triplea and also removing the entire triplea folder and redownloading tww. nothing seems to be working.