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    VictoryFirst (Germany) vs. Kwas (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 6

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    • VictoryFirstV Offline
      VictoryFirst
      last edited by

      So yeah what you have selected there is fine

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      • kwaspek104K Offline
        kwaspek104
        last edited by

        @VictoryFirst i changed my mind about med fleet fight retreat. it was mutual destruction. whether that trade was worth it, we shall see...

        vf-allies1.tsvg

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        • kwaspek104K Offline
          kwaspek104
          last edited by

          @VictoryFirst oh yeah, can you edit down the British armour from canada and the AA gun to America? thanks!

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          • VictoryFirstV Offline
            VictoryFirst
            last edited by

            TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

            Game History

            Round: 2
            
                Purchase Units - Germans
                    Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
            
                Combat Move - Germans
                    2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
                    2 fighters moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                    2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to English Channel Sea Zone
                    1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                    1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway
                    2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                    1 fighter moved from Germany to Norway
                    1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            
                Combat - Germans
                    Battle in Norway
                        Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                        Russians defend with 1 infantry
                            Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                            Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Norway
                        Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                        Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                    Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                        Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                        Russians defend with 1 infantry
                            Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                            Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                            1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                        Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                        Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                        Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                    Battle in English Channel Sea Zone
                        Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 transport
                        British defend with 1 destroyer
                            Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 transport in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                            British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                            1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone
                        Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                        Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            
                Non Combat Move - Germans
                    1 fighter moved from Norway to Finland
                    1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to East Poland
                    1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                    1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                    2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                    2 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
                    2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
                    1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
                    2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                    20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                    1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
                    1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany
                    2 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Germany
                    2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland
                    1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Northern Italy
            
                Place Units - Germans
                    14 infantry placed in Germany
            
                Turn Complete - Germans
                    Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                    Turning on Edit Mode
                    EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 aaGun
                    EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 armour
                    EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United States: 1 aaGun and 1 armour
                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            

            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

            Russians regular : 0.33
            Germans regular : 2.67
            British regular : -0.50
            

            Savegame

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            • kwaspek104K Offline
              kwaspek104
              last edited by

              @VictoryFirst vf-allies2.tsvg

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              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                VictoryFirst
                last edited by

                TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                Game History

                Round: 3
                
                    Purchase Units - Germans
                        Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                
                    Combat Move - Germans
                        2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        2 fighters moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                        1 fighter moved from Finland to Baltic States
                        1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States
                        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                        1 armour moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                              Germans take Tunisia from British
                        1 armour moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                        2 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
                
                    Combat - Germans
                        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                        Battle in Baltic States
                            Germans attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
                            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                
                    Non Combat Move - Germans
                        4 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                        2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                        1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                        18 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                        1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                        2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                
                    Place Units - Germans
                        8 armour placed in Germany
                
                    Turn Complete - Germans
                        Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 47 PUs
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Russians regular : -0.33
                Germans regular : -1.67
                

                Savegame

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                • kwaspek104K Offline
                  kwaspek104
                  last edited by

                  @VictoryFirst

                  vf-allies3.tsvg

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                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                    VictoryFirst
                    last edited by

                    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                    Game History

                    Round: 4
                    
                        Purchase Units - Germans
                            Germans buy 8 armour and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                    
                        Combat Move - Germans
                            2 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
                            10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                            1 bomber moved from Germany to Belorussia
                            1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                            8 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States
                            6 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
                            7 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                    
                        Combat - Germans
                            Battle in Belorussia
                                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Karelia
                                Germans attack with 7 infantry
                                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 7 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                                Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans attack with 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry
                                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 16/46 hits, 13.33 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 28 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                            Battle in Baltic States
                                Germans attack with 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry
                                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 10/33 hits, 10.50 expected hits
                                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                            Battle in Tunisia
                                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                British defend with 1 infantry
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Tunisia
                                Germans win, taking Tunisia from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                    
                        Non Combat Move - Germans
                            1 aaGun moved from East Poland to Baltic States
                            6 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Germany
                    
                        Place Units - Germans
                            8 armour and 2 infantry placed in Germany
                    
                        Turn Complete - Germans
                            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 43 PUs
                    

                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                    Russians regular : -1.00
                    Germans regular : 1.50
                    British regular : 0.33
                    

                    Savegame

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                    • kwaspek104K Offline
                      kwaspek104
                      last edited by

                      @VictoryFirst you should easily win this game lol

                      vf-allies4.tsvg

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                      • VictoryFirstV Offline
                        VictoryFirst
                        last edited by

                        TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

                        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                        Game History

                        Round: 5
                        
                            Purchase Units - Germans
                                Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                        
                            Combat Move - Germans
                                10 armour, 7 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
                                8 armour, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
                        
                            Combat - Germans
                                Battle in Belorussia
                                    Germans attack with 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry
                                    Russians defend with 3 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 24/72 hits, 20.67 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                        3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                    Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                    Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                        
                            Non Combat Move - Germans
                                1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
                                8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                        
                            Place Units - Germans
                                14 infantry placed in Germany
                        
                            Turn Complete - Germans
                                Germans collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs
                        

                        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                        Russians regular : -1.00
                        Germans regular : 3.33
                        

                        Savegame

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                        • kwaspek104K Offline
                          kwaspek104
                          last edited by

                          @VictoryFirst

                          even if the brits didn't lose their fighters and bombers on turn 1, Americans bought 3 more fighters first 2 turns (total of 6), and Brits bought two more fighters, this battle would still heavily lean German. I included the 6 German fighters because the threat on Berlin would be significantly less with so much fighter purchasing.

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                          • kwaspek104K Offline
                            kwaspek104
                            last edited by

                            and you would maybe even be able to get away with buying a bomber on this german turn as well...

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                            • kwaspek104K Offline
                              kwaspek104
                              last edited by

                              @VictoryFirst vf-allies5.tsvg

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                              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                VictoryFirst
                                last edited by

                                TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

                                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                Game History

                                Round: 6
                                
                                    Purchase Units - Germans
                                        Germans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                                
                                    Combat Move - Germans
                                        18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow
                                        2 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow
                                        1 bomber moved from Germany to Moscow
                                
                                    Combat - Germans
                                        Battle in Moscow
                                            Germans attack with 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry
                                            Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 50 infantry
                                                Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 23/75 hits, 22.33 expected hits
                                                Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 50 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 15/64 hits, 21.67 expected hits
                                                15 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                21 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 bombers owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 31 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 20/60 hits, 19.83 expected hits
                                                Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 29 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 15/41 hits, 14.33 expected hits
                                                15 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                20 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 16 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 16/45 hits, 17.33 expected hits
                                                Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 8/21 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                                                8 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                9 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 5 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                                Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 8 infantry in Moscow, round 5 : 13/37 hits, 16.00 expected hits
                                                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 2 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 1/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                                                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                                2 fighters owned by the Russians and 3 armour owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                            Germans captures 19PUs while taking Russians capital
                                            Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 132
                                            Casualties for Germans: 39 infantry
                                            Casualties for Russians: 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 50 infantry
                                
                                    Non Combat Move - Germans
                                        Trigger GermanVictoryConditionsMet: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentGermanVictorySwitch attached to Germans
                                        1 bomber moved from Moscow to Belorussia
                                        6 armour moved from East Poland to Germany
                                
                                    Place Units - Germans
                                        12 infantry placed in Germany
                                
                                    Turn Complete - Germans
                                        Germans collect 33 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                                

                                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                Russians regular : -7.00
                                Germans regular : -3.50
                                Russians AA : -0.17
                                

                                Savegame

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                                • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                  VictoryFirst @kwaspek104
                                  last edited by

                                  @kwaspek104

                                  Yep, that's why I think this game is heavily in favor of Germany (at least 90%) and the only way for them to lose is large defeats in both the Atlantic and the Eastern Front.

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                                  • kwaspek104K Offline
                                    kwaspek104
                                    last edited by

                                    gg lol.

                                    One more time? I can take the germans this time. If it's another blowout, I'll have to take TGC's suggestion and play with no Special Cash Advance (SCA) for the Germans...

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                                    • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                      VictoryFirst
                                      last edited by

                                      Hehe you are not going to try the Berlin attack? 🙂

                                      That sounds good to me!

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                                      • kwaspek104K Offline
                                        kwaspek104
                                        last edited by

                                        i did, i just didn't post it here haha

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