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    VictoryFirst (Germany) vs. Kwas (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 6

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    • kwaspek104K Offline
      kwaspek104
      last edited by

      @VictoryFirst i changed my mind about med fleet fight retreat. it was mutual destruction. whether that trade was worth it, we shall see...

      vf-allies1.tsvg

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      • kwaspek104K Offline
        kwaspek104
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        @VictoryFirst oh yeah, can you edit down the British armour from canada and the AA gun to America? thanks!

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        • VictoryFirstV Offline
          VictoryFirst
          last edited by

          TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

          Game History

          Round: 2
          
              Purchase Units - Germans
                  Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
          
              Combat Move - Germans
                  2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  2 fighters moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to English Channel Sea Zone
                  1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                  1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway
                  2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                  1 fighter moved from Germany to Norway
                  1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
          
              Combat - Germans
                  Battle in Norway
                      Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                      Russians defend with 1 infantry
                          Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                          Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                          1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Norway
                      Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                      Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                  Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                      Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                      Russians defend with 1 infantry
                          Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                          Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                          1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                          1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                      Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                      Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                      Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                  Battle in English Channel Sea Zone
                      Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 transport
                      British defend with 1 destroyer
                          Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 transport in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                          British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                          1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone
                      Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                      Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
          
              Non Combat Move - Germans
                  1 fighter moved from Norway to Finland
                  1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to East Poland
                  1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                  2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                  2 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
                  2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
                  1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
                  2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                  20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                  1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
                  1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany
                  2 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Germany
                  2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland
                  1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Northern Italy
          
              Place Units - Germans
                  14 infantry placed in Germany
          
              Turn Complete - Germans
                  Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                  Turning on Edit Mode
                  EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 aaGun
                  EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 armour
                  EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United States: 1 aaGun and 1 armour
                  EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          Russians regular : 0.33
          Germans regular : 2.67
          British regular : -0.50
          

          Savegame

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          • kwaspek104K Offline
            kwaspek104
            last edited by

            @VictoryFirst vf-allies2.tsvg

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            • VictoryFirstV Offline
              VictoryFirst
              last edited by

              TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

              TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

              Game History

              Round: 3
              
                  Purchase Units - Germans
                      Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
              
                  Combat Move - Germans
                      2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                      2 fighters moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                      2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                      1 fighter moved from Finland to Baltic States
                      1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States
                      1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Ukraine S.S.R.
                      1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                      1 armour moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                            Germans take Tunisia from British
                      1 armour moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                      2 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
              
                  Combat - Germans
                      Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                          Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                          Russians defend with 2 infantry
                              Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                              Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                              Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                              Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                              1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                          Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                          Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                          Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                      Battle in Baltic States
                          Germans attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
                          Russians defend with 1 infantry
                              Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                              Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                          Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                          Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
              
                  Non Combat Move - Germans
                      4 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                      2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                      1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
                      18 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
                      2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
                      1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                      2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
              
                  Place Units - Germans
                      8 armour placed in Germany
              
                  Turn Complete - Germans
                      Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 47 PUs
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              Russians regular : -0.33
              Germans regular : -1.67
              

              Savegame

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              • kwaspek104K Offline
                kwaspek104
                last edited by

                @VictoryFirst

                vf-allies3.tsvg

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                • VictoryFirstV Offline
                  VictoryFirst
                  last edited by

                  TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

                  TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                  Game History

                  Round: 4
                  
                      Purchase Units - Germans
                          Germans buy 8 armour and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                  
                      Combat Move - Germans
                          2 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
                          10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                          1 bomber moved from Germany to Belorussia
                          1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                          8 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States
                          6 fighters moved from Germany to Baltic States
                          7 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                          1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  
                      Combat - Germans
                          Battle in Belorussia
                              Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                              Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                  Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                  Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                  1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                              Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                              Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                          Battle in Karelia
                              Germans attack with 7 infantry
                              Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                  Germans roll dice for 7 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                  Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                  1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                              Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                              Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                          Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                              Germans attack with 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry
                              Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                  Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 16/46 hits, 13.33 expected hits
                                  Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                  1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                                  2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                              Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 10 armour, 7 artilleries and 28 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                              Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                              Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                          Battle in Baltic States
                              Germans attack with 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry
                              Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                  Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 10/33 hits, 10.50 expected hits
                                  Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                  2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                              Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 8 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 18 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                              Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                          Battle in Tunisia
                              Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                              British defend with 1 infantry
                                  Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                  British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                  1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia
                                  Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                  British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                  1 infantry owned by the British lost in Tunisia
                              Germans win, taking Tunisia from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                              Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                              Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                  
                      Non Combat Move - Germans
                          1 aaGun moved from East Poland to Baltic States
                          6 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
                          1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Germany
                  
                      Place Units - Germans
                          8 armour and 2 infantry placed in Germany
                  
                      Turn Complete - Germans
                          Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 43 PUs
                  

                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                  Russians regular : -1.00
                  Germans regular : 1.50
                  British regular : 0.33
                  

                  Savegame

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                  • kwaspek104K Offline
                    kwaspek104
                    last edited by

                    @VictoryFirst you should easily win this game lol

                    vf-allies4.tsvg

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                    • VictoryFirstV Offline
                      VictoryFirst
                      last edited by

                      TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

                      TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                      Game History

                      Round: 5
                      
                          Purchase Units - Germans
                              Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                      
                          Combat Move - Germans
                              10 armour, 7 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
                              8 armour, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
                      
                          Combat - Germans
                              Battle in Belorussia
                                  Germans attack with 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry
                                  Russians defend with 3 infantry
                                      Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 24/72 hits, 20.67 expected hits
                                      Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                      3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                                  Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                  Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                      
                          Non Combat Move - Germans
                              1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
                              8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                      
                          Place Units - Germans
                              14 infantry placed in Germany
                      
                          Turn Complete - Germans
                              Germans collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs
                      

                      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                      Russians regular : -1.00
                      Germans regular : 3.33
                      

                      Savegame

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                      • kwaspek104K Offline
                        kwaspek104
                        last edited by

                        @VictoryFirst

                        even if the brits didn't lose their fighters and bombers on turn 1, Americans bought 3 more fighters first 2 turns (total of 6), and Brits bought two more fighters, this battle would still heavily lean German. I included the 6 German fighters because the threat on Berlin would be significantly less with so much fighter purchasing.

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                        • kwaspek104K Offline
                          kwaspek104
                          last edited by

                          and you would maybe even be able to get away with buying a bomber on this german turn as well...

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                          • kwaspek104K Offline
                            kwaspek104
                            last edited by

                            @VictoryFirst vf-allies5.tsvg

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                            • VictoryFirstV Offline
                              VictoryFirst
                              last edited by

                              TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

                              TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                              Game History

                              Round: 6
                              
                                  Purchase Units - Germans
                                      Germans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                              
                                  Combat Move - Germans
                                      18 armour, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow
                                      2 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow
                                      1 bomber moved from Germany to Moscow
                              
                                  Combat - Germans
                                      Battle in Moscow
                                          Germans attack with 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry
                                          Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 50 infantry
                                              Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                              Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 23/75 hits, 22.33 expected hits
                                              Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 50 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 15/64 hits, 21.67 expected hits
                                              15 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                              21 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 bombers owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                              Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 31 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 20/60 hits, 19.83 expected hits
                                              Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 29 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 15/41 hits, 14.33 expected hits
                                              15 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                              20 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                              Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 16 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 16/45 hits, 17.33 expected hits
                                              Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 8/21 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                                              8 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                              9 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 5 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                              Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 8 infantry in Moscow, round 5 : 13/37 hits, 16.00 expected hits
                                              Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 2 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 1/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                                              2 fighters owned by the Russians and 3 armour owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                                          Germans captures 19PUs while taking Russians capital
                                          Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 20 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 132
                                          Casualties for Germans: 39 infantry
                                          Casualties for Russians: 5 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 50 infantry
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - Germans
                                      Trigger GermanVictoryConditionsMet: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentGermanVictorySwitch attached to Germans
                                      1 bomber moved from Moscow to Belorussia
                                      6 armour moved from East Poland to Germany
                              
                                  Place Units - Germans
                                      12 infantry placed in Germany
                              
                                  Turn Complete - Germans
                                      Germans collect 33 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                              

                              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                              Russians regular : -7.00
                              Germans regular : -3.50
                              Russians AA : -0.17
                              

                              Savegame

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                              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                VictoryFirst @kwaspek104
                                last edited by

                                @kwaspek104

                                Yep, that's why I think this game is heavily in favor of Germany (at least 90%) and the only way for them to lose is large defeats in both the Atlantic and the Eastern Front.

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                                • kwaspek104K Offline
                                  kwaspek104
                                  last edited by

                                  gg lol.

                                  One more time? I can take the germans this time. If it's another blowout, I'll have to take TGC's suggestion and play with no Special Cash Advance (SCA) for the Germans...

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                                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                    VictoryFirst
                                    last edited by

                                    Hehe you are not going to try the Berlin attack? 🙂

                                    That sounds good to me!

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                                    • kwaspek104K Offline
                                      kwaspek104
                                      last edited by

                                      i did, i just didn't post it here haha

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