VF (Axis) vs TGC (Allies) | Classic, Game 2 - Balance
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Gonna think about this for a bit, i'll post the save here so that I don't lose it.
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@victoryfirst the other techs dont matter in this board state - what I have to do now is determine if its better to chase heavy bombers with USA or just try to bury you with the current TUV and economy.
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@victoryfirst and yes, generally you max build heavy bombers and begin to zero out the Russian then UK economies. The game can get weird and goes pretty quick now.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic
Game History
Round: 9 Research Technology - Japanese Japanese spend 40 on tech rolls Japanese roll 2,6,1,5,2,3,3,5 and gets 1 hit Japanese discover Heavy Bomber Activate Technology - Japanese Japanese activating Heavy Bomber Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Borneo Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Borneo Celebes to Borneo Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Borneo Sea Zone to North Australia Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from North Australia Sea Zone to Australia 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from East Indies to East Indies Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from East Indies Sea Zone to North Australia Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from North Australia Sea Zone to Australia 1 battleship moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to North Australia Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Russia 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to India 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 3 fighters moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Russia Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 4,4,4 and costs: 12 PUs. Bombing raid costs 12 PUs Battle in Novosibirsk Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Evenki National Okrug Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Evenki National Okrug 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Evenki National Okrug Japanese win, taking Evenki National Okrug from Russians with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Australia Japanese attack with 4 infantry British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Australia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 4 infantry in Australia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in Australia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Australia 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Australia Japanese win, taking Australia from British with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in India Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in India Japanese win, taking India from British with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter moved from India to Sinkiang 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Sinkiang 1 fighter moved from Evenki National Okrug to Sinkiang 2 fighters moved from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut S.S.R. 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 armour moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 8 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria 1 bomber moved from Russia to Sinkiang Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 42 PUs; end with 43 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 1,50 Russians regular : 0,67 British regular : 1,00 Russians AA : -0,17
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Game History
Round: 9 Research Technology - Americans Americans spend 30 on tech rolls Americans roll 1,4,1,2,3,5 and gets 0 hits Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug 1 bomber moved from Finland Norway to Novosibirsk 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Europe 2 fighters moved from North Sea Zone to East Europe Combat - Americans Battle in Novosibirsk Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk Americans win, taking Novosibirsk from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in East Europe Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in East Europe, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe Americans win, taking East Europe from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Evenki National Okrug Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Evenki National Okrug 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Evenki National Okrug Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Evenki National Okrug to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Evenki National Okrug to Karelia S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus 8 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 4 transports moved from North Sea Zone to East Canada Sea Zone 1 transport moved from West Spain Sea Zone to East Canada Sea Zone 10 infantry moved from West Canada to East Canada Sea Zone 10 infantry and 5 transports moved from East Canada Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 10 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway 2 infantry moved from Algeria to French Equatorial Africa 1 fighter moved from East Europe to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from East Europe to North Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from West US to North Sea Zone 10 infantry moved from West US to West Canada 1 infantry moved from West US to Mexico Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 35 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : 0.33 Germans regular : -0.67
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Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 armour moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug Russians take Evenki National Okrug from Japanese 1 armour moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk 2 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 13 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk 23 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 7 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 7 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Karelia S.S.R.: 7 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 1 aaGun moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 4 armour moved from Russia to Novosibirsk Place Units - Russians 4 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic
Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe 2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe 2 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 16 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 1 bomber moved from Germany to Caucasus 2 fighters moved from Germany to West Europe Combat - Germans Battle in West Europe Germans attack with 3 fighters and 3 infantry British defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe 2 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe Germans win, taking West Europe from British with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in East Europe Germans attack with 2 armour and 18 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 18 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 4/20 hits, 4,00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in East Europe Germans win, taking East Europe from Americans with 2 armour and 17 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 10 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Germany 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Germany 3 fighters moved from West Europe to Germany 18 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe Place Units - Germans 10 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0,67 Russians regular : -0,33 Germans regular : 0,17 British regular : 0,33
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Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 bomber and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Persia to India 1 infantry moved from Persia to Kazakh S.S.R. 4 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 2 fighters moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to India 1 fighter moved from Persia to India 1 bomber moved from Syria Jordan to India 1 infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus 2 fighters moved from West Spain Sea Zone to West Europe 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to West Europe 1 transport moved from West Spain Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to West Europe Combat - British Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. British win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Caucasus British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus British win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in India British attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in India British win, taking India from Japanese with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Battle in West Europe British attack with 2 fighters and 3 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe British roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in West Europe, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in West Europe, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe British win, taking West Europe from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from West Europe to West Spain Sea Zone 1 transport moved from West Spain Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway 2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from India to Novosibirsk 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from India to Persia 6 infantry moved from Syria Jordan to Persia 6 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Syria Jordan 4 infantry moved from Libya to Anglo Sudan Egypt 2 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Sudan Egypt 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Libya 4 infantry moved from Algeria to French Equatorial Africa 2 transports moved from West Spain Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to Algeria Place Units - British 1 bomber and 8 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 39 PUs; end with 40 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.67 Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.50