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      The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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      Game History

      Round: 12
      
          Purchase Units - British
              British buy 2 bombers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
      
          Combat Move - British
              1 fighter moved from Persia to French Indo China Sea Zone
              1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to French Indo China Sea Zone
              3 fighters moved from West Canada to West Europe
              2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
              2 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to West Europe
              1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
                    British take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
              1 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R.
              2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Europe
              3 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Europe
              1 bomber moved from West Canada to Germany
      
          Combat - British
              Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                      Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                  Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 4,1,2 and costs: 7 PUs.
                  Bombing raid costs 7 PUs
              Battle in French Indo China Sea Zone
                  British attack with 2 fighters
                  Japanese defend with 2 transports
                      British roll dice for 2 fighters in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                      Japanese roll dice for 2 transports in French Indo China Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                      2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China Sea Zone
                  British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                  Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports
              Battle in East Europe
                  British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                  Germans defend with 2 infantry
                      British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                      Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in East Europe, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                      1 infantry owned by the British lost in East Europe
                      1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                      British roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in East Europe, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                      Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                      British roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in East Europe, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                      Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Europe, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                      1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Europe
                  British win, taking East Europe from Germans with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                  Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                  Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
              Battle in West Europe
                  British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                  Germans defend with 1 infantry
                      British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                      Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                      1 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
                      1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe
                  British win, taking West Europe from Germans with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                  Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                  Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
      
          Non Combat Move - British
              1 aaGun moved from Persia to Syria Jordan
              2 fighters moved from West Europe to West Canada
              1 fighter moved from West Europe to Karelia S.S.R.
              3 fighters moved from East Europe to Karelia S.S.R.
              1 bomber moved from Germany to West Canada
              4 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
              2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
              2 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway
              2 armour and 7 infantry moved from Persia to Syria Jordan
              6 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Syria Jordan
              5 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakh S.S.R.
              1 infantry moved from Persia to Syria Jordan
              2 fighters moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Syria Jordan
              1 infantry moved from Syria Jordan to Persia
              1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
      
          Place Units - British
              2 bombers placed in United Kingdom
      
          Turn Complete - British
              British collect 38 PUs; end with 43 PUs
      

      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

      Japanese regular : -0.33
      Germans AA : -0.17
      Germans regular : 0.33
      British regular : -1.00
      

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        TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 12

        TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

        Game History

        Round: 12
        
            Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese buy 3 bombers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
        
            Combat Move - Japanese
                3 bombers moved from Japan to Russia
                1 fighter moved from China to Yakut S.S.R.
                2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
                3 bombers and 4 fighters moved from China to Russia
                13 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang
                2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang
                8 armour and 24 infantry moved from India to Sinkiang
                1 infantry moved from Australia to South Australia Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from South Australia Sea Zone to South East Madagascar Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from South East Madagascar Sea Zone to Madagascar
                      Japanese take Madagascar from British
        
            Combat - Japanese
                Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
                    Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Americans defend with 1 infantry
                        Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                        Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Yakut S.S.R.
                    Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Battle in Sinkiang
                    Japanese attack with 8 armour and 39 infantry
                    Americans defend with 1 infantry
                        Japanese roll dice for 8 armour and 39 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 10/47 hits, 10,50 expected hits
                        Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sinkiang
                        1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Sinkiang
                    Japanese win, taking Sinkiang from Americans with 8 armour and 38 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Battle in Russia
                    Japanese attack with 6 bombers and 4 fighters
                    British defend with 1 infantry; Americans defend with 2 infantry; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 10 armour, 1 factory and 2 infantry
                        Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 3/10 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                        3 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in Russia
                        Japanese roll dice for 6 bombers and 1 fighter in Russia, round 2 : 17/19 hits, 12,50 expected hits
                        Russians roll dice for 10 armour and 5 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 4/15 hits, 5,00 expected hits
                        1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 3 bombers owned by the Japanese lost in Russia
                        2 infantry owned by the Russians, 10 armour owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Russia
                    Japanese win with 3 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -28
                    Casualties for Japanese: 3 bombers and 4 fighters
                    Casualties for Russians: 10 armour and 2 infantry
                    Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        
            Non Combat Move - Japanese
                3 bombers moved from Russia to Caucasus
                1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria
        
            Place Units - Japanese
                3 bombers placed in Japan
        
            Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 41 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        

        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

        Americans regular : 0,67
        Japanese regular : 4,33
        Russians regular : -1,67
        Russians AA : 1,33
        

        Savegame

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          The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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          @victoryfirst you crazy.... :astonished_face:

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            @the_good_captain said in VF (Axis) vs TGC (Allies) | Classic, Game 2 - Balance:

            @victoryfirst you crazy.... :astonished_face:

            Heavy Bombers are powerful indeed!

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              The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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              @victoryfirst

              Game History

              Round: 12
              
                  Purchase Units - Americans
                      Americans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
              
                  Combat Move - Americans
                      2 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R.
                      1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R.
                      1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Yakut S.S.R.
              
                  Combat - Americans
                      Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
                          Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                          Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                              Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                              Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Yakut S.S.R.
                              Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                              Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
                              Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                              Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                              Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
                          Americans win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Japanese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                          Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                          Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
              
                  Non Combat Move - Americans
                      1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R.
                      3 transports moved from North Sea Zone to East Canada Sea Zone
                      5 infantry moved from West Canada to East Canada Sea Zone
                      5 infantry and 3 transports moved from East Canada Sea Zone to North Sea Zone
                      5 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway
                      11 infantry moved from West US to West Canada
                      10 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
              
                  Place Units - Americans
                      12 infantry placed in West US
              
                  Turn Complete - Americans
                      Americans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              Americans regular : -2.50
              Japanese regular : -1.00
              
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                The_Good_Captain @The_Good_Captain
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                @VictoryFirst

                Game History

                Round: 13
                
                    Purchase Units - Russians
                        Russians buy 3 armour and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                
                    Non Combat Move - Russians
                        1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R.
                        18 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
                        1 aaGun and 42 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
                        1 aaGun moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
                        1 aaGun moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway
                
                    Place Units - Russians
                        3 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.
                        3 infantry placed in Russia
                
                    Turn Complete - Russians
                        Russians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
                

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                  TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 13

                  TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Classic

                  Game History

                  Round: 13
                  
                      Purchase Units - Germans
                          Germans buy 1 armour and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                  
                      Combat Move - Germans
                          29 armour and 16 infantry moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
                          1 bomber and 5 fighters moved from Germany to Karelia S.S.R.
                  
                      Combat - Germans
                          Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                              Germans attack with 29 armour, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 16 infantry
                              British defend with 1 armour, 4 fighters and 4 infantry; Americans defend with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 31 infantry; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 1 factory and 2 fighters
                                  Russians roll AA dice in Karelia S.S.R. : 1/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                  1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                                  Germans roll dice for 29 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 16 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 22/50 hits, 19,83 expected hits
                  

                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                  Germans regular : 2,17
                  Russians AA : 0,00
                  

                  Savegame

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                    OOL?

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                      The_Good_Captain @VictoryFirst
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                      @victoryfirst take two british infantry. the rest take USA infantry

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                        G13 OOL 2.tsvg

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                          @VictoryFirst leave a UK infantry

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                            TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 13

                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

                            Game History

                            Round: 13
                            
                                Purchase Units - Germans
                                    Germans buy 1 armour and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Germans
                                    29 armour and 16 infantry moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
                                    1 bomber and 5 fighters moved from Germany to Karelia S.S.R.
                            
                                Combat - Germans
                                    Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                                        Germans attack with 29 armour, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 16 infantry
                                        British defend with 1 armour, 4 fighters and 4 infantry; Americans defend with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 31 infantry; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 1 factory and 2 fighters
                                            Russians roll AA dice in Karelia S.S.R. : 1/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                            1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                                            Germans roll dice for 29 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 16 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 22/50 hits, 19,83 expected hits
                                            Russians roll dice for 7 armour, 1 bomber, 10 fighters and 35 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 24/53 hits, 22,17 expected hits
                                            16 infantry owned by the Germans and 8 armour owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                                            20 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                                            Germans roll dice for 21 armour, 1 bomber and 4 fighters in Karelia S.S.R., round 3 : 12/26 hits, 13,17 expected hits
                                            Russians roll dice for 7 armour, 1 bomber, 10 fighters and 13 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 3 : 17/31 hits, 14,83 expected hits
                                            17 armour owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                                            11 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                                        1 bomber owned by the Germans and 4 fighters owned by the Germans retreated
                                        4 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Caucasus
                                        Russians win with 7 armour, 1 bomber, 10 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -83
                                        Casualties for Germans: 25 armour, 1 fighter and 16 infantry
                                        Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                                        Casualties for Americans: 31 infantry
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Germans
                                    1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Germany
                                    4 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Germany
                            
                                Place Units - Germans
                                    1 armour and 7 infantry placed in Germany
                            
                                Turn Complete - Germans
                                    Germans collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Russians regular : 4,00
                            Germans regular : 1,00
                            Russians AA : 0,00
                            

                            Savegame

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                              Game History

                              Round: 13
                              
                                  Purchase Units - British
                                      British buy 2 bombers; Remaining resources: 13 PUs; 
                              
                                  Combat Move - British
                                      1 infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus
                                      1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
                                      1 fighter moved from Syria Jordan to South East Madagascar Sea Zone
                                      1 fighter moved from Syria Jordan to South East Madagascar Sea Zone
                                      1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
                                      2 armour moved from Syria Jordan to Caucasus
                                      2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
                                      1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Caucasus
                                      2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
                                      1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany
                                      1 bomber moved from West Canada to Germany
                                      2 fighters moved from West Canada to Caucasus
                                      1 infantry moved from West Europe to South Europe
                                            British take South Europe from Germans
                              
                                  Combat - British
                                      Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                                              Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                          Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 2,6,3,6,6,6 and costs: 29 PUs.
                                          Bombing raid costs 29 PUs
                                      Battle in South East Madagascar Sea Zone
                                          British attack with 2 fighters
                                          Japanese defend with 1 transport
                                              British roll dice for 2 fighters in South East Madagascar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                              Japanese roll dice for 1 transport in South East Madagascar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                              1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in South East Madagascar Sea Zone
                                          British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                                          Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
                                      Battle in Caucasus
                                          British attack with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 infantry
                                          Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 4 armour; Japanese defend with 3 bombers
                                              Germans roll AA dice in Caucasus : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                                              2 fighters owned by the British lost in Caucasus
                                              British roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 4/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                                              Germans roll dice for 4 armour and 3 bombers in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                              3 bombers owned by the Japanese and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                                              British roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 7/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                                              Germans roll dice for 3 armour in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus
                                              3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                                          British win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
                                          Casualties for British: 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                                          Casualties for Japanese: 3 bombers
                                          Casualties for Germans: 4 armour
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - British
                                      2 fighters moved from Caucasus to West Canada
                                      1 aaGun and 19 infantry moved from Syria Jordan to Persia
                                      5 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Russia
                                      1 bomber moved from Germany to West Canada
                                      2 fighters moved from South East Madagascar Sea Zone to Persia
                                      2 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
                                      1 fighter moved from Caucasus to United Kingdom
                                      1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
                                      1 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to West Europe
                                      1 carrier and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
                                      1 fighter moved from Caucasus to West Africa Sea Zone
                                      1 infantry moved from Kenya-Rhodesia to South Africa
                                      1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Russia
                                      1 bomber moved from Germany to Russia
                              
                                  Place Units - British
                                      2 bombers placed in United Kingdom
                              
                                  Turn Complete - British
                                      British collect 43 PUs; end with 56 PUs
                              

                              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                              Japanese regular : -0.17
                              Germans AA : 0.50
                              Germans regular : -1.83
                              British regular : -0.67
                              

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                                @VictoryFirst were you still interested in this game?

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                                  Yes, I am playing so many that I sometimes forget where I need to do my turn.

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                                    GG, this is an unrecoverable defeat for the Axis! My plan was to get lucky in Karelia, destroying your units and then take Moscow with Japan but that didn't work out (it did work in my playtest).

                                    Well played, this game was fun

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                                      @victoryfirst said in VF (Axis) vs TGC (Allies) | Classic, Game 2 - Balance:

                                      Yes, I am playing so many that I sometimes forget where I need to do my turn.

                                      Yep. I can relate to this. Thank you for rolling for tech and taking the game this far. Yes, some of your moves shocked me but I can see with a bit warmer dice rolls - things could have gone differently.

                                      GOOD GAME!

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