EXP Game 2 Trout vs barnee
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@beelee
308c3751-9379-49b4-ae82-6b2d1bf26e03-exp-game-2-trout-g12sealion.tsvg Before I roll for combat, you are welcome to check me to ensure everything looks fine to you. Yes, no problem with rolling one round then asking you for which casualties to take. -
@beelee Battle calc says I win 27% of the time for the Sea Lion. Not sure I believe that. My eyeballs tell me that your AAA and Flak Tower will tear me up before any dice rolls happen.
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Right arm. I did it in test and the reich won with a lone Pnzr left lol So I guess the Bmbrs will go first after all. Although Keep the Hvys till the Inf all gone except the badass dude.
Couple ways to do it. In full edit or edit the LM and Ftr hits before ending ncm. Ftr hits can be removed but the amphib guys can't. Have to undo there move or fight in edit and kill them 1st rd and not count any hits they get.
I think it will be easier to adjust now and fight it normally. So, I'll set us up with the dice roller and make any adjustments, then turn it back over to you.
It looks as if the 4 LCVs have all Inf and I'm gonna scramble the French Ftr. Any LM hits will ignore the LCVs obviously and take Trprt Inf as kills.
Back in a bit
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@beelee I don't think the LM's hit because they are unarmed - or am I not understanding something ..... again
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@beelee If I am correct about the LM's and you want to change your UK buy I am okay with that.
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@trout have to hand roll the LMs I just did at the other site.
So a little better than test. 4 Ftrs and 2 Inf stepped on LMs. I'll update your save and you'll be ready to roll
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The LMs you can arm same turn you buy them if it's where they are bought. I'll dbl check that real quickYea that's what I thought, so were good.
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I'll brb with an updated save
308c3751-9379-49b4-ae82-6b2d1bf26e03-exp-game-2-trout-g12sealionPostLMandFlak.tsvg
I just undid the 8 Inf that went with the LCVs and moved 6 back as it was easier. Also easier to kill the Ftrs start of battle instead of undoing there move.
So, you'll need to be carefull. Don't take the Air Trprt as a hit and only take 5 FlakTT hits. Leave the last one.
I forgot to kill the 2 LMs, we can do that unless you win
then it won't matter.OOL
5 on the Flak
Reg Bmbrs
All Inf including Mech except for Elite
Hvy Bmbrs
US Air keep bloke Ftrs to the endLet me know if something not clear.
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You can widen the battle window if you can't see all the dudes -
@beelee Game History
Round: 12 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Trigger Wolfpack at110 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 110 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at96 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 96 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone Germans buy 4 TotalWarMe_262s, 1 elite and 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermansItalyTakeover: Germans has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Germans takes Scotland from British EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Game Loaded 1 elite moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 Waffen_Para moved from Western Germany to Scotland 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 1 Type_XXI_UBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 Type_XXI_UBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 German_Hvy_Bmbr moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 3 LuftwaffeAces, 3 Me_262s, 6 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 Me_262 moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 elite, 13 infantry and 10 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 elite and 13 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France 1 battleship moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 Escort_Convoy moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 1 Waffen_Oberst_4, 1 waffen_infantry and 1 waffen_panzer moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 German_Hvy_Bmbr moved from Germany to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Germany to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Germany to United Kingdom 1 2ndPanzerArmy moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States EDIT: 6 infantry moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom Combat - Germans EDIT: Trigger Wolfpack at110 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 110 Sea Zone EDIT: Trigger Wolfpack at96 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 96 Sea Zone EDIT: Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone EDIT: Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone EDIT: British scrambles 1 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone EDIT: British scrambles to create a battle in territory 110 Sea Zone EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from United Kingdom: 4 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Baltic States: 1 Panzer_General3 and 5 armour EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Baltic States: 1 2ndPanzerArmy EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Tunisia Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Americans defend with 1 ArmoredInfantry Germans win, taking Tunisia from Americans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 ArmoredInfantry Battle in Southern France Germans attack with 2 infantry British defend with 1 UndergroundMinr, 1 harbour, 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Germans win, taking Southern France from British with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 1 Waffen_Oberst_4, 1 waffen_infantry and 1 waffen_panzer British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 1 Waffen_Oberst_4 and 1 waffen_panzer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 waffen_infantry Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 Type_XXI_UBoats Americans defend with 1 Escort Germans win with 1 Type_XXI_UBoat remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 Type_XXI_UBoat Casualties for Americans: 1 Escort Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 3 infantry Russians defend with 2 armour and 2 guard_infantrys 1 Panzer_General3 owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 2 armour and 2 guard_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 9 GermanUBoats, 1 German_Heavy_BB, 3 Type_XXI_UBoats, 3 Wolfpacks, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 10 transports French defend with 1 fighter 3 Type_XXI_UBoats owned by the Germans and 9 GermanUBoats owned by the Germans submerged Units damaged: 1 German_Heavy_BB owned by the Germans Germans win with 1 German_Heavy_BB, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 10 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for French: 1 fighter Casualties for Germans: 3 Wolfpacks Battle in United Kingdom Germans attack with 2 German_Hvy_Bmbrs, 4 German_LCVs, 3 LuftwaffeAces, 4 Me_262s, 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 elite, 3 fighters, 19 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers; Changer loiter and taunt Changer defend; British defend with 1 FlakTower, 1 HomeDefense, 1 Hvy_Undg_2, 1 UK_Hvy_Bomber, 4 aaGunNOs, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 elite, 1 harbour, 20 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 7 uk_fighters; French defend with 2 mech_infantrys; Americans defend with 2 USA_Hvy_Bombers, 1 air_transport, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 3 usa_fighters Germans captures 58PUs while taking British capital Germans converts Hvy_Undg_2 into different units Germans win, taking United Kingdom from British with 2 German_Hvy_Bmbrs, 3 LuftwaffeAces, 4 Me_262s and 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 60 Casualties for Germans: 4 German_LCVs, 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 elite, 3 fighters, 19 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers Casualties for British: 1 FlakTower, 1 HomeDefense, 1 UK_Hvy_Bomber, 4 aaGunNOs, 1 bomber, 1 elite, 20 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 7 uk_fighters Casualties for Americans: 2 USA_Hvy_Bombers, 1 air_transport, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 3 usa_fighters Casualties for French: 2 mech_infantrys Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Romania Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Greece Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Germans in Eastern Poland Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 2 G_Rails owned by Germans in Eastern Poland Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 96 Sea Zone Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals 1 German_Hvy_Bmbr moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 German_Hvy_Bmbr moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 Me_262 moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 Me_262 moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 Me_262 moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 Me_262 moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 LuftwaffeAce moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 G_Rail and 1 King_Tiger moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 G_Rail and 1 King_Tiger moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 Europe_Rail moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 Europe_Rail and 1 King_Tiger moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary Place Units - Germans 4 TotalWarMe_262s placed in Western Germany 1 elite and 5 infantry placed in Germany 5 infantry placed in Western Germany 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy 2 infantry placed in Germany Trigger GermansTotalWarMe 262PlaceWesternGermany4: has removed 4 TotalWarMe_262s owned by Germans in Western Germany Trigger GermansTotalWarMe 262PlaceWesternGermany4: Germans has 4 Me_262s placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Trigger Germans RemoveConvoySZ92: has removed 1 Escort_Convoy owned by Germans in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at110 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 110 Sea Zone Trigger Germans RemoveConvoySZ92: Germans has 1 Escort placed in 92 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone Trigger ParaBoost atGreece: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Greece Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria Trigger ParaBoost atRomania: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Romania Germans collect 63 PUs; end with 125 PUs Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 137 PUs Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansNoShipsMedObjective: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 142 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 147 PUs Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansAdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 150 PUsAmazing! I won but lost .... twice! Will explain in follow-up post
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@beelee So I was so sure that I would lose that I didn't pay attention to details in case I did win. So I did not send destroyer to SZ 104 to block and I did not switch out the boxes for 2nd Panzer Army in Poland. I did the Sea Lion first in local by accident. Your Flak Tower killed two fighters (so that was an issue but ultimately I won with one tank surviving along with the Heavy Bombers and Luftwaffe Aces. Then I rolled again in PBF with the results that I posted. But you still win the war because I did not send the destroyer to block along with screwing up the Poland fight.
Honestly you deserved to win and it was a good reminder of how dangerous the Sea Lion gambit is throughout a game. Also this game had two situations where the Battle Calculator was misleading. This Sea Lion fight and the SZ 91 "stalemate" where my U-Boats knocked out the Yankee fleet. I also got taught a lesson in how Soviet Union can utilize the Fascist bonus with Italian Africa territories.
So ultimately for me, this was a great learner game as I am still on the learning curve for using Triple A. It also was a bit of a confidence boost for me since this game went better for me than the first game where you blew out me and Pizza. Anyway congrats sir. Let me know if / when you want to do another one. Thanks
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Dam
I was thinking last night I might have got too cute leaving those 2 Ftrs in GIB. Idk if it woulda made a difference or not. Just killed more of your Air.104 doesn't matter. I don't have any Trprts. There is no way for me to liberate London. I have to raise the White Flag
and sue for peaceCongratulations. Well fought and Fun game
I think you still were in a good position on E Front. You had a 20 hp advantage. Woulda forced me back to moscow if you pushed into Belarus in Force.Moscow woulda held but then we'd be trading TTys deeper into the soviet union and Finland woulda been liberated eventually.
Had the yanks corked off in the Atlantic. Nippon was giving plenty of trouble in the Pacific. Still anybody's game at that point imo.
Anyway, it didn't matter
I'll need to keep that in mind in the future Do you wanna do the Game Report for this one ? Victory and I usually swap off every other game. It'll count towards your free dudes.
I'll add some comments as well.https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37723/global-1940-1943-expansions-game-reports
I need a day or two to do the latest update, then we can fire another one up whenever you want.
Pizza will be proud of you and rightly so
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Yea the battle calc not perfect. It has trouble with some bonus stuff I think. Also, you need to remove non hps like landmines and Air Trprt from the calc.Doing that gave you a 75% chance to win. If I had added the two Ftrs it'd been 49.5% before any Flak hits.
After Flak hits and without the two yank Ftrs it showed 40% win rate. So not an enormous upset.
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@beelee Thanks! First time I won with a strategy that was spawned out of desperation. I knew that chances for victory were greater than say 5% but still surprised with how this game turned out. I can do the Game Report but will take me awhile due to schedule but also because I need to learn how to post the screen shots as many on the A&A HRE forum don't use Triple A. Should be an interesting game to post since it had such a wild ending.
We can start another one whenever you are ready for it. Doesn't matter to me which side to play. I am still learning alot of new tricks whether Axis or Allies.
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yea no need to go to big on the report. I always do
I'd try and use The Captain's as a guide.Don't worry too much about pictures. There is a small < > upper right where you can go full screen. Select a certain area you can tune out the History or just bomb the entire screen in.
I usually zoom out to get a bigger picture. The save game has all the info but most won't want to fire it up unless they're real interested.
Anyway, be a couple days probably. Need to fix a couple things and update the Notes again.
Fun game
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