EXP Game 1 Trout vs Johnny Cat

[beelee]

@johnnycat

heh heh don't worry Cat. You've already made a name for yourself

Yea Business Class only way to fly. Coach is like a inner city bus ride lol

[JohnnyCat]

@trout said in EXP Game 1 Trout vs Johnny Cat:

stumbled onto a stroke of genius...

NO SIRS - NO STUMBLING WAS INVOLVED. I set out to maximize this scenario and by golly jeepers geeky creepers I'm a gonna does it
hahahahah

anyway I am on the plane trying to get all this to work with minimal results so I will just bang out a turn or two without being able to access any of the special stuff

[JohnnyCat]

@trout here us R3

I couldn't get any of those links to work to explain House Rules or whoever.. whatever... SO I still don't know why and how the ruskies get Urals tank every turn and anything else.

Im tired and just did boring Russian 3 turnR3.tsvg

[beelee]

@johnnycat

here is how the Urals Tank works

[Trout]

@johnnycat That's a House Rule that you don't have to do anything for. Your comrade slave laborers in Siberia work out of sight and before you start every Russian turn starting with R3, a tank will just appear in the Urals and you can use it immediately. UNLESS the bad guys have Urals territory when your turn starts. In that case, the slave laborers don't work as they are hiding from the Fascists.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout Greetings from Taipei, Taiwan.

I love coming here - the culture, the food, the fashion and much more.

I also love your sense of humor - definitely a required quality to make these games even more fun...

I am suffering from EXTREME and BRUTAL Jet Lag but I swear I did Russia's 3rd turn and then you did a move and wrote about it on the Forum and it was Extremely FUNNY...

But as I look around I do not see anything - other than my completely Russia 3 and posting it here. I called it something like "a boring Russian turn 3."

Did I experience a vision into the future ? A first-ever Axis and Allies Dream? Are you still contemplating Japan's third turn?

Maybe you and your wife and still celebrating your 15th year anniversary??

Please advise. I am something like 16 hours into your future.

[Trout]

@johnnycat Glad you got there okay. Yes, enjoy the fried scorpions and all of that other wonderful cuisine that you can't get here in USA You are correct. I missed that you had posted R3. Did J3 now. Decided to stay at peace with the USA. If I promise to not attack Hawaii and just stomp on Australia and other places can we agree to remain at peace? You are from Cali so I assume you are pro-peace yes??? I can even agree to send FDR a daily supply of sushi and green tea for him and his dear Eleanor. See how gracious our Emperor is
Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 Heavy_BB, 1 Japan_destroyer, 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu
        Trigger JapanDOW OnUSAorUK: Americans has 6 infantry and 2 usa_fighters placed in Western United States
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 46 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
              Japanese take Shan State from British
        2 armour moved from Shantung to Kweichow
        2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        2 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
        1 armour moved from Jehol to Kweichow
        2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
        1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Shensi
        2 fighters moved from Hunan to Shensi
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kweichow
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kweichow
        1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 46 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
            Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in Java
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in Malaya
        Battle in Kweichow
            Japanese attack with 5 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Java from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Malaya from British, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 5 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from British with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Shensi
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
        Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Hopei
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Yunnan
        1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
        1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Shantung
        1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Hopei
        1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 artillery moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 elite moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        2 fighters moved from Shensi to Yunnan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Yunnan
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        3 fighters moved from Kwangtung to Hopei
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hopei
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hopei
        1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 Heavy_BB and 1 Japan_destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Shantung
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 47 PUs; end with 49 PUs
        Trigger Japanese Controls Celebes Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs

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[JohnnyCat]

@beelee Naval Mines (NM) Question:

The augmented rules (https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/assets/uploads/files/1692452927558-1.g40-naval-mines.pdf) state that NMs can only be placed in ones capital.

I have to assume the following; please let me know if any are incorrect:

1. in the USA's case, place in capital means East or West Coast, right? If not what would be the rational ?

2. Naval mines can be moved by destroyers or transports - 3 mines per escort. They can unload and arm them after the NCM (non combat move)

3. Naval Mines are placed on a line between sea zones - and this has to be noted by the players.

Example : The US could, in theory, place a number of mines in SZ 26 the Hawaii zone. And their location must be specified so the line between 26 and 24 (Wake Island) and 26 and 30 (Johnston Island)

The Japanese could move around these but if they moved directly from Caroline Islands, for example, how are these dice rolls handled ?

Thanks

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee @Trout
FOUND IT

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Hi Cat

Glad you made it to Asia safely Business Class or used to be known as 1st Class

Yea. so the NMs, NavalMines, US of A has their Capital in "Eastern United States". So can't place them in Cali Although the blokes can in India so ... well that's the rules

NMs can only be moved by "Escorts" not Destroyers. Some of the movement is "Player Enforced".

Yes you have the Sealine in the Seazone defending correct. Use the comment log to state which Mines defend where and/or state in Game Thread.

Actually best to state in Game thread as comment Log can get missed but when in doubt, check the log and if it's listed as it should be, then you'll have your answer.

Do your turn and save it where you have a question and I will look at it.

Idk any Chinese and JPN seems inappropriate, so a Good Day to you

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee Thanks - how are these mine attacks done in the game - what I mean is how are dice rolled?

So the only way to get Naval Mines From the East Coast to the Pacific is to ship them via transport or escort from the East Coast through Panama Canal or the long way???

So what is an "escort"? The rules say a ship that attacks with 1 and defends with 2 and follow destroyer rules.

So I don't get it - how do we acquire escorts?

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Yea so NMs are produced in EUS only. I think you can Rail move them, I'll check.

Nope you can't

brb with the Escort/DD thingy

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee Sorry to nag you on this but these Naval Mines seem very powerful if used well...

So what are Naval Mines 2 and 3 ? I thought you addressed that earlier but now I cannot find that. My plan is to purchase 5 Naval Mines, place them on the east coast, then next turn to load 5 naval mines onto the transport there, and ship them (in 3 turns) to the Japan Sea Zone.

OK I am kidding but this would work yes? The game shows that a transport can hold 5 NMs. But the rules may have said that "Escorts" whatever those are, can only hold and ship 3...

So confusing...

[beelee]

@johnnycat

oops

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/assets/uploads/files/1692452927558-1.g40-naval-mines.pdf

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee It turns out that knowing Japanese is a very valuable asset here in 2025 Taiwan.

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee YES I know this - and read it many times. Still don't know:

1. what is an escort and how to get them
2. How many NMs can be moved by escort (the game allows transports to move 5)
3. What is a NM2 and NM3

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Yea so only "3" NMs on a "Escort" at a time. Player Enforced. Triple has to allow illegal moves to make all Units transportable.

Edit
NM 2 = 2 NMs and 3 =3. 3 is the most common I find because that is max Escort ability to transport. Have to use edit to place them.

Edit 2
Ah you are in Formosa. I thought I had something wrong A Pleasant evening to you and I will post the Escorts directly

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Patience Grasshopper

i will explain directly

Edit
Escorts can't be purchased until turn 4, Late 1941. You can buy NMs and place them in your Capital but won't be able to move them until Escorts come into play.

So rd 5, Early 1942, would be the soonest you could move NMs that you had previously purchased.

Edit 2
When in doubt, you have to Player Enforce the rules.

Yea you probablly need to read the captain's rules again as i doubt the above explains it to you fully.

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee Patience... sorry but that was Latency not impatience, hahaha.

OK thanks I get all this mine stuff now - except how to get "escorts" but I am patient and look forward to the explanation when you get to it...

[beelee]

@johnnycat said in EXP Game 1 Trout vs Johnny Cat:

but that was Latency not impatience, hahaha.

there you go again with those high dollar college words

I might have to look it up since I'm not at the bar and can ask 2 year Bachelor degree buddy the definition lol

Edit
Do they have Halibut there ? Idk I would think so favorite type of fish and chips

Edit 2
I edited above post for Escorts