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      beelee @JohnnyCat
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      @johnnycat

      Hi Cat

      JPN has to DOW on UK to be able to attack the Dutch. Page 8 OOB rule https://www.hasbro.com/common/documents/60D52426B94D40B98A9E78EE4DD8BF94/6B7BC7B257E049558181A7D71B822DCF.pdf

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        JohnnyCat @beelee
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        @beelee Got it ! I looked for that in the rule book but I searched on "celebes" and not "Dutch Territories".

        I am SO UNIMPRESSED by the poor quality of these rule books...

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          beelee @JohnnyCat
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          @johnnycat

          yea I have a hard time navigating it myself 🙂

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            Trout @JohnnyCat
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            @johnnycat Game History

            Round: 3
            
                Purchase Units - Russians
                    Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1941 and The Soviet Union can Form up to 2 Tank Armies.<br><br><img src="Tank_General.png"/><br><br><br />You may purchase 1 Tank General per turn.<b></body>
                    Note to players Russians: It is Early 1941 and The Soviet Union has Tankograd Up and Running !     Russia receives 1 Free Tank per turn as long as they control the Urals.
                    Trigger TankGeneral: buyTank_General added to productionRussians
                    Russians buy 1 Tank_General, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 elite; Remaining resources: 17 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 
            
                Combat Move - Russians
                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
            
                Combat - Russians
                    Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
            
                Non Combat Move - Russians
                    Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                    Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                    Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Caucasus
                    1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
                    1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Russia to Rostov
                    1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
                    1 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov
                    1 armour moved from Russia to Rostov
                    1 elite moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                    1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                    2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                    1 Russian_Rail and 1 mine_unarmed moved from Russia to Caucasus
                    1 Russian_Rail and 1 mine_unarmed moved from Russia to Caucasus
                    1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 mine_unarmed moved from Russia to Caucasus
                    1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
                    1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
                    1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk
                    1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
                    1 armour moved from Urals to Russia
                    4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            
                Place Units - Russians
                    1 Tank_General, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 elite placed in Russia
                    Turning on Edit Mode
                    EDIT: Adding units owned by Changer to Caucasus: 3 R_mine_CAUC_100s
                    EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 3 mine_unarmeds
                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            
                Turn Complete - Russians
                    Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            

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              JohnnyCat @Trout
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              @trout Trout-cat-game-3-JAPAN_3.tsvg

              Japan is too tired to type - Emperor Whatever his name is, call this a national day of early rest. No battles were fought even. not really. well a couple small ones but of no effect...

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                Trout @JohnnyCat
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                @johnnycat Good morning JC. Noticed that in your G3, you placed a factory in Greece and 3 U-Boats in Ty Sea. But not allowed to do that. Units can only be placed in a factory that existed before the turn starts. Do you want to redo your G3 or just have me revise your turn via Edit? If revise, do you want to place the 3 UBoats in the North Atlantic or use your 12 Franks for something else?

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                  beelee @Trout
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                  @trout

                  He has a Fctry in Yugo that allows it

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                    Trout @beelee
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                    @beelee Oh wow! You are right. Churchill officially worried about Egypt now

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                      Trout @JohnnyCat
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                      @johnnycat USA wants revenge! Attacking SZ 6. Scrambled eggs in Tokyo today? Or will the Emperor save his Zeros this turn for another dastardly deed in the future?

                      54b99bc8-245a-4983-b422-6ff4136a4cf7-trout-cat-game-3-uk3.tsvg Actually use this one. I decided to fly over two more fighters just in case you decide to scramble be48e368-f783-491e-8057-59126d1e9222-trout-cat-game-3-uk3.tsvg

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                        JohnnyCat @Trout
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                        @trout wow. I love it. you fell right into this trap

                        no eggs

                        hahaha. OK so not being cocky but, unless there is some new (new to me) rule... I am thinking that you will regret this move.

                        Then again, I dont even know what to do with the Mafia so maybe I could be mistaken wrong. Either way I am having a gallant time

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                          beelee @JohnnyCat
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                          @johnnycat said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

                          Either way I am having a gallant time

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                            Trout @JohnnyCat
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                            @johnnycat Make me regret it! You are the bad guys remember. Attacking poor Filipino grannies on 1st turn no less. Game History

                            Round: 3
                            
                                Purchase Units - Americans
                                    Americans buy 2 ArmoredInfantrys, 2 NavyFighters, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 elite, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 transports and 1 usa_fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Americans
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States
                                    1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
                                    1 usa_fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    1 Heavy_BB moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    2 usa_fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
                                    1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                    2 usa_fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
                            
                                Combat - Americans
                                    Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                                        Americans attack with 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 2 submarines, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber
                                        Japanese defend with 2 Japan_destroyers, 2 cruisers and 6 submarines
                                            Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                            Americans roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 6 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                        Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                                            Japanese roll dice for 2 Japan_destroyers and 2 cruisers in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                                        Units damaged: 1 Heavy_BB owned by the Americans
                                            1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                            5 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                            Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                            Americans roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 6/12 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 2 Japan_destroyers and 2 cruisers in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                                            1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                            2 Japan_destroyers owned by the Japanese, 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 2 cruisers owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                        Americans win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 49
                                        Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                                        Casualties for Japanese: 2 Japan_destroyers, 2 cruisers and 6 submarines
                                    Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Americans
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 2 Rails owned by Americans in Western United States
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 4 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States
                                    2 carriers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                                    1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                                    5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                                    1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
                                    1 Heavy_BB moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                    3 usa_fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
                                    2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
                                    2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                    1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                                    1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                                    2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                                    1 Rail and 1 elite moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
                                    1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                                    1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                                    1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
                                    1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                    1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                    1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                    2 usa_fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone
                                    1 Rail and 1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
                            
                                Place Units - Americans
                                    1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                    2 NavyFighters placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                    1 elite and 1 usa_fighter placed in Eastern United States
                                    1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
                                    1 ArmoredInfantry and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
                                    1 ArmoredInfantry and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
                            
                                Turn Complete - Americans
                                    Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                                    Trigger Americans AdvancedProduction: Americans met a national objective for an additional 14 PUs; end with 67 PUs
                                    Trigger Americans Loses Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional -3 PUs; end with 64 PUs
                                    Trigger Americans Loses Guam: Americans met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 63 PUs
                                    Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
                                    Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
                                    Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
                            
                                Purchase Units - Chinese
                                    Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                                    Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Chinese
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceChinese: Chinese has 2 Rails placed in Kansu
                                    2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
                                    1 fighter moved from Shensi to Chahar
                            
                                Combat - Chinese
                                    Battle in Chahar
                                        Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                                        Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                                            Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                            1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
                                            1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
                                            Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                            Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                            Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                            1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
                                        Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                        Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                                        Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                                    Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Chinese
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveChinese: has removed 2 Rails owned by Chinese in Kansu
                                    1 fighter moved from Chahar to Shensi
                            
                                Place Units - Chinese
                                    5 infantry placed in Shensi
                            
                                Turn Complete - Chinese
                                    Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs
                                    Objective Advanced Production 1 Infantry: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs
                            
                                Purchase Units - British
                                    British buy 2 Fortifications, 1 UK_LCV, 1 factory_minor, 6 infantry, 2 uk_armours, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_para; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 NavyLendLease; 
                            
                                Combat Move - British
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa
                                    1 artillery moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
                                    1 uk_armour moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
                                    1 artillery, 1 transport and 1 uk_armour moved from 72 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                    1 uk_armour moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
                                    2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
                                    1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
                                    1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
                                    2 uk_fighters moved from Egypt to Iraq
                                    1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Iraq
                                    1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                    1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                    2 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
                                    1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from India to Shan State
                                    2 uk_fighters moved from India to Shan State
                            
                                Combat - British
                                    Battle in Iraq
                                        British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
                                        Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                                            British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Iraq, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                            British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                                            Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                            3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq
                                        British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                        Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                                    Battle in Shan State
                                        British attack with 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
                                        Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                                            British roll dice for 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                            1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                                            British roll dice for 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                            1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                                        British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                        Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                                    Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                            
                                Non Combat Move - British
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Union of South Africa
                                    2 uk_fighters moved from Shan State to India
                                    1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to India
                                    2 infantry moved from Burma to India
                                    1 artillery moved from Burma to India
                                    1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                    1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                    1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
                                    2 uk_fighters moved from Iraq to Egypt
                                    1 bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
                                    1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                    1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
                            
                                Place Units - British
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                    1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
                                    2 Fortifications placed in Sumatra
                                    4 infantry and 1 uk_armour placed in India
                                    2 infantry and 1 uk_armour placed in Union of South Africa
                                    1 UK_LCV, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_para placed in United Kingdom
                            
                                Turn Complete - British
                                    Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                                        Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,1,5,1,3,5,2,2
                                        Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,3,4,3,5,1,6
                                    British collect 34 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 36 PUs
                                    Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 42 PUs
                                    Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Chinese regular : -0.83
                            Americans regular : -2.67
                            Japanese regular : -0.17
                            Neutral_Axis regular : -1.00
                            British regular : -3.17
                            

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                              Trout @JohnnyCat
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                              @johnnycat What to do with the Corleones. Yes, it's a mystery a bit. In OOB, if UK has a successful Taranto Raid, they are often reduced quickly to playing defense in Italy and assisting in defense of France. Along with can-opener attacks in Russia - meaning kill the infantry or two defending a territory so that German panzers can blitz through on their turn. It's possible because with turn order, the Axis can do a 1-2 punch with Italy followed by Germany with only ANZAC far away from their theater between them.

                              Thankfully HRE gives them more possibilities. I am far from an expert but here's roughly what I see and you are too good sir for me to detail out what you can do with each one of them since I am under pressure in the Med in our current game.

                              1. They are useful for the ways mentioned in OOB strategy threads. There's multiple threads on the forum discussing what to do with the weakling Italy and all of the suggestions apply in HRE also.
                              2. Italy is able to build LCVs and Paratroopers both of which can be quite useful for attacking:
                                a. Caucasus across the Black Sea from Greece
                                b. Syria from Italy as a gateway to the lucrative Middle East territories.
                                c. Gibraltar from S. France
                              3. Since U-Boats are so powerful in HRE and Italy gets a bit more money, the Axis can often clear the Med from UK Navy which then gives Italy some possibilities to rebuild their navy.

                              Looks like you have already figured out alot of this by the moves you are making but that's about it except that in HRE, you also have a very powerful one-time move called the Italian Takeover. I'll let you figure that one out yourself since you are already advanced in your playing skills. Well - have a swell time with the Mafia - no more help on that topic! 🙂

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                                JohnnyCat @Trout
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                                @trout said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

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                                  beelee
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                                  @trout might not seem like a lot but the extra 3 bucks for Italia is essentially a 30% increase from OOB

                                  but yea I agree with everything you said. Especially the part about

                                  you are too good sir for me to detail out what you can do with each one of them

                                  🙂

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                                    Trout @JohnnyCat
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                                    @johnnycat Game History

                                    Round: 3
                                    
                                        Purchase Units - ANZAC
                                            ANZAC buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 
                                    
                                        Combat Move - ANZAC
                                            1 fighter moved from Java to 45 Sea Zone
                                            2 fighters moved from Queensland to 46 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Combat - ANZAC
                                            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                                                ANZAC attack with 1 fighter
                                                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                                                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                                    Japanese roll dice for 1 transport in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                                                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 45 Sea Zone
                                                ANZAC win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
                                            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                                                ANZAC attack with 2 fighters
                                                Japanese defend with 2 transports
                                                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 fighters in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                                    Japanese roll dice for 2 transports in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                                                    2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone
                                                ANZAC win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                                                Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports
                                            Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Greece
                                            Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                                            Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atGreece: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Greece
                                            Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                            2 fighters moved from 46 Sea Zone to Queensland
                                            1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to Java
                                            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
                                            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
                                    
                                        Place Units - ANZAC
                                            1 infantry placed in New South Wales
                                            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - ANZAC
                                            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                                                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2
                                            ANZAC collect 10 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 13 PUs
                                            Trigger ANZAC Loses NewGuinea: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional -2 PUs; end with 11 PUs
                                    
                                        Combat Move - French
                                    
                                        Combat - French
                                            Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Greece
                                            Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Non Combat Move - French
                                            Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atGreece: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Greece
                                            Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                                            1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                            1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                            1 cruiser moved from 105 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - French
                                    

                                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                    Japanese regular : 0.00
                                    ANZAC regular : 1.50
                                    

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                                      @trout said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

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                                        @johnnycat Game History

                                        Round: 4
                                        
                                            Purchase Units - Russians
                                                Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Late 1941 and We have Developed Rockets !<br><br><img src="Russian_Rockets.png"/><br><br><br />Russia can Now Purchase Rockets.<b></body>
                                                Note to players Russians: It is Late 1941 and Comrade Stalin has Promoted the Best of Our Rifle Divisions to Guard Status !       Russia can purchase 3 Guard Infantry for 10 PUs.  They can only be placed in Moscow.  ....
                                                Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Late 1941 and Soviet Partisan Bands are Forming !<br><br><img src="Soviet_Partisan.png"/><br><br><img src="SP.png"/><br><br><br />Russia can Now Purchase Partisans.<b></body>
                                                Trigger RussianGuards: buyGuard_Infantry added to productionRussians
                                                Trigger Soviet Partisan: buySoviet_Partisan added to productionRussians
                                                Russians buy 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 armour, 1 elite and 6 guard_infantrys; Remaining resources: 16 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 
                                        
                                            Politics - Russians
                                                Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans
                                                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
                                                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                                                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                                                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                                                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                                                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
                                        
                                            Combat Move - Russians
                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
                                                1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
                                                      Russians take Poland from Germans
                                                1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Romania
                                                      Russians take Romania from Germans
                                        
                                            Combat - Russians
                                                Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Greece
                                                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                                        
                                            Non Combat Move - Russians
                                                Trigger RussianFctrys: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to russian_minor
                                                Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                                Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atGreece: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Greece
                                                Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
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                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Russian_Rail owned by Russians in Russia
                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 Russian_Rail owned by Russians in Novgorod
                                                1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                                                      Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
                                                3 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
                                                EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Rostov to 1st Corps
                                                EDIT: 2 armour moved from Rostov to 1st Corps
                                                EDIT: 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to 1st Corps
                                                EDIT: 1 1stCorps moved from 1st Corps to Caucasus
                                                EDIT: 1 Tank_General moved from Russia to 1st Tank
                                                EDIT: 5 armour moved from Russia to 1st Tank
                                                EDIT: 1 1stTankArmy moved from 1st Tank to Eastern Poland
                                                2 artilleries moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                                                4 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                                                1 elite moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                                                1 Russian_Rail and 1 elite moved from Russia to Novgorod
                                                1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 artillery moved from Russia to Novgorod
                                                1 armour moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                                                1 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
                                                13 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                                                4 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
                                                1 armour moved from Urals to Yenisey
                                                1 armour moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
                                                1 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
                                                3 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                                                1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
                                                EDIT: 1 russian_minor moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                                                1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
                                        
                                            Place Units - Russians
                                                1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 armour, 1 elite and 6 guard_infantrys placed in Russia
                                        
                                            Turn Complete - Russians
                                                Russians collect 42 PUs; end with 58 PUs
                                                Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
                                                Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 69 PUs
                                        

                                        Churchill is so desperate that he smoked three cigars in a row to calm himself down then he called those Commies and begged for help. It is unclear what he promised them but they agreed to declare war on the Fuehrer.

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                                          @trout said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

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                                          what is the number 5 and the number 2 at the Philippines mean?

                                          Same question on the Celebes: a 3 and 4 ? WTF?

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                                            OK so this turn is NOT COMPLETE just yet.

                                            I have no idea how to place those naval mines - so I ran a transport to zone 6 and picked them up - my goal is to install them in that sea zone across the obvious border but how to do this ?

                                            NAVAL MINES ROCK !!!

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