EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Could you elaborate on what part you don't understand ?

[JohnnyCat]

@Trout. I keep posting this sign - this is from our game not a random example. So am I to read this that you have two blockades over Italy income? se szone 93 and that the game rolled a 2 and a 4 so 15 collected but 2 lost to convoy damage.

So 48 gets added to the German turn 9:: 71 - 5 for th take over +48 = 114

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee I don't understand if you are referring to things in general or the specific case which is this image so I gather the 2 were lost

In other words I get it yes. Thank you. And apparently the game did it because this is the image from that Italian turn

[beelee]

@johnnycat

yea so you don't need to subtract the 5 bucks from germany when using the Token. A "UserAction" will pop up at start of G's turn and ask if you want to takeover Italy. If you accept it will auto deduct the 5 bucks

Edit
I will provide a detailed example after bit

[Trout]

@johnnycat Happy Saturday my Cali evil genius friend Had an idea for you since you are on a quest to figure out how this Takeover thing works. If you want to keep redoing your I8/G9 turn until you figure out the TripleA mechanics of it and then get your units where you want. Then feel free to do it a few times and then just post it when you are happy with the results. My F8 turn is not going to change no matter what you do so you can just follow these instructions for it and work on your Takeover. My F8 turn that you can just do and then move straight to your G9 are:

1. ANZAC purchase escort/destroyer/transport/infantry.
2. destroyer and two fighters attack the sub in Sea Zone 45
3. ANZAC Navy move to Sea Zone 54 and the two fighters after combat land on the carrier
4. For France, just the destroyer/cruiser move from SZ 109 to SZ 110

Anyway, that can give you some time to just tinker with it until you get it right. Beelee is busy coming out with the new version of this game which will have the new Naval Commander units added, etc. He does great pro bono work with that. I should at least buy him an Irish Coffee sometime for a teensy bit of compensation.

You'll get it figured out very soon. I think you're almost there actually. Just need to place the token on your Italy turn, press the button paying the 5 IPCs on the Germany turn, and add the Italy bank account to Deutsche Bank via Edit Mode. Until then have a great rest of your day.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout @beelee

Sorry it took me days. My (who was my fiancé last month) contacted me suggesting a future meeting so maybe that is good. It was difficult for me to concentrate on this game with all that emotion running around.

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GAME NOTES:
Now that I am learning it everything from the army groups to factory strategies are feeling almost east now.

Congrats to Field Marshal @Trout for taking my West German factory and squishing it down to a minor - I always felt you were wasting your time and money with those bothersome paratroopers always dropping into their demise but now I see the point of that.

I formed a Panzer Group with a Waffle House Panzer Leader but not all the tanks are waffle tanks.

I formed a Waffle House Wait staff lead by a special fanatic and containing a special waffle artillery (had to plan to make those) and a waffle tank and some elite guy.

I HAVE NO IDEA what is the best make up for these groups - I would love to hear suggestions and even regroup them if that makes sense. I even have one of those Panzer Jagers (Tank Destroyer) that defends well so maybe he should join?

STRATEGY - I have been struggling all game to figure out how to assess the map in terms of reality of battles and it is better now. Thank you for patience.

While I WILL get into huge complicated battles with you, possibly next turn if you fall for my trap, I avoided the obvious blocking move because I know that you will just attack Slovakia even if you have a 1 percent chance and that makes sense because you have nothing to lose and my pieces are more precious in a sense.

I am surprised that you gave me Africa and Egypt, however, so I took it. And I STILL kept going to India which was my goal. Because you did not blow Egypt, however, I had to slow down and the battle wiped out almost all my methamphetamine-addicted Waffle Water Boys YOU F-ING MONSTER YOU!

Now I have to train more fanatics.

The Naval Mines are all placed where you would think but the graphics don't allow me to place them on the line between the med and the Atlantic.

If you do cross that line I would like to be online to see how you roll it. With 4 mines there and each one having a 33.3333% chance to hit and it being done for each vessel, odds are great that you would lose transports full of horny young seeman smoking cigarettes and reading National Geographic zines to see the naked African women... So don't cross the line, heeeheee. PS. I built two more naval mines so please leave one of my escort vessels so that I can build a wall.

I don't think I have anything else say other than, unless I read it wrong, we should have a few more good turns and I can finally build out and use these army groups

SSR up Sir

[JohnnyCat]

@trout The Takeover thing worked perfectly - no need to revisit it now. I totally get how it works

[JohnnyCat]

@Trout

sorry forgot one thing

[JohnnyCat]

@trout I did not use any RR this time and should have but like I said my emotions about my lady...

But please check the board and see if I have 3 RR units - I recall seeing more but should only have 3.

Thanks

PS. I think that they appear during non-combat - so if you look now you see two in Germany and I think that those might need to be removed.

[Trout]

@johnnycat Hey JC. Something is wrong with your turn. I don't know where but there are some SS infantry in the Egypt attack but the SS guys cannot travel across Sea Zones. They are so in love with their Fuehrer that they never go very far from the Fatherland. I don't know if the rule is just for play balance or historical realism because they were never in Africa in the real WW2 but in any case, need to redo your turn for that. On another note, I am glad my AAA killed a plane. I usually never buy those but I saw that the only way you could attack Egypt was with multiple aircraft so glad that paid off.

Okay, I looked at it closer and your Armies look wrong too. Waffen Armies can only contain Waffen units. So need an SS something instead of the Elite Infantry. Also for your Panzer Army, you have SS tanks in there but SS units can only be in Waffen Armies. There is one SS Panzer Army that G is allowed to build. For that, need SS Panzer General and three SS Panzers. But regular G units and SS units can never be in the same Army. So need to correct that also. Recommend you just redo your entire I8/G9 turn maybe if needed to correct those things.

These things are all in the rulebook but you already knew that.

Looks like your SS dudes went to Syria in your G8 turn. So do you want to go back to G8 and redo from there? Or just let it go as a learner game where you will get it right next time?

[JohnnyCat]

@trout wow I forgot about that water stuff. I hate to give up anything I do if I can correct it.

And yea I forgot all about that no water thing.

I’m on a hike now but will
Look through the game and see what makes sense to me when I return as this game is proving very insightful. To me

As far as the army group stuff goes. Well I read it all all again but I’ve read those rules dozens of times now so I’ll look at that too.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout so I converted a panzer general to SS panzer general right?

So far so good

But I recall the game said I can’t have 5 SS panzer tanks so how i make that?

Was my other warden group correct?

[Trout]

@johnnycat The SS Panzer Army is SS PG and three SS Panzers

[Trout]

@johnnycat That army rolls 8 dice attacking at 4 and defending at 5. Very potent unit

[JohnnyCat]

@trout now I understand why I see you building them every game

But regular panzer army is one panzer general
And 5 regular tanks so it’s easy to forget. Hence the reason to use the upper boxes. Duh. Now I see the sense in that.

I just home so I’ll see if we can salvage this. Another option is to just stay in Europe. But what’s the fun in That ?

[Trout]

@johnnycat Ha Ha! Yes, the allure of conquering Africa and the Middle East is a strong temptation for Axis each game. But have to be careful to defend the homeland also.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout

I am reading and still need to ask

what is a Waffen PG and how is it used?

so 6 tanks for the panzer armies but only 4 units for the waffen guys?

Who leads the waffen guys:

The oberst obviously but maybe this guy can lead too? I cannot find rules for this Waffen PG. THANKS

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[JohnnyCat]

@Trout

Turns out that German turn 8 is when I broke the rules and sent nazi fanatics on boats and that would have resulted in the end of the universe as we know it -

So it appears that I might be able to salvage this game by just redoing that turn.

[Trout]

@johnnycat Yes, that was my suggestion. Just go back to G8 and play from there. There was something I wanted to change in my US8 turn anyway so I don't mind just going back to G8 and we play forward from that point. There is a rulebook for the Waffen Panzer General in the same location as all of the other rulebooks.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout

OK how about this then. For me to start at G8 means that I sort of don't coordinate the mafia turn immediately prior that and in this game I can see how that pair is intimate so I propose restarting at Italy 7 - the photo here is after Italy 7 currently so I would redo that and also get this nazi fanatics back into their cages.

Or we could just play checkers.