EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat
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sorry forgot one thing
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@trout I did not use any RR this time and should have but like I said my emotions about my lady...
But please check the board and see if I have 3 RR units - I recall seeing more but should only have 3.
Thanks
PS. I think that they appear during non-combat - so if you look now you see two in Germany and I think that those might need to be removed.
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@johnnycat Hey JC. Something is wrong with your turn. I don't know where but there are some SS infantry in the Egypt attack but the SS guys cannot travel across Sea Zones. They are so in love with their Fuehrer that they never go very far from the Fatherland. I don't know if the rule is just for play balance or historical realism because they were never in Africa in the real WW2 but in any case, need to redo your turn for that. On another note, I am glad my AAA killed a plane. I usually never buy those but I saw that the only way you could attack Egypt was with multiple aircraft so glad that paid off.
Okay, I looked at it closer and your Armies look wrong too. Waffen Armies can only contain Waffen units. So need an SS something instead of the Elite Infantry. Also for your Panzer Army, you have SS tanks in there but SS units can only be in Waffen Armies. There is one SS Panzer Army that G is allowed to build. For that, need SS Panzer General and three SS Panzers. But regular G units and SS units can never be in the same Army. So need to correct that also. Recommend you just redo your entire I8/G9 turn maybe if needed to correct those things.
These things are all in the rulebook but you already knew that.
Looks like your SS dudes went to Syria in your G8 turn. So do you want to go back to G8 and redo from there? Or just let it go as a learner game where you will get it right next time?
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@trout wow I forgot about that water stuff. I hate to give up anything I do if I can correct it.
And yea I forgot all about that no water thing.
I’m on a hike now but will
Look through the game and see what makes sense to me when I return as this game is proving very insightful. To meAs far as the army group stuff goes. Well I read it all all again but I’ve read those rules dozens of times now so I’ll look at that too.
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@trout so I converted a panzer general to SS panzer general right?
So far so good
But I recall the game said I can’t have 5 SS panzer tanks so how i make that?
Was my other warden group correct?
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@johnnycat The SS Panzer Army is SS PG and three SS Panzers
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@johnnycat That army rolls 8 dice attacking at 4 and defending at 5. Very potent unit
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@trout now I understand why I see you building them every game
But regular panzer army is one panzer general
And 5 regular tanks so it’s easy to forget. Hence the reason to use the upper boxes. Duh. Now I see the sense in that.I just home so I’ll see if we can salvage this. Another option is to just stay in Europe. But what’s the fun in That ?
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@johnnycat Ha Ha! Yes, the allure of conquering Africa and the Middle East is a strong temptation for Axis each game. But have to be careful to defend the homeland also.
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I am reading and still need to ask
what is a Waffen PG and how is it used?
so 6 tanks for the panzer armies but only 4 units for the waffen guys?
Who leads the waffen guys:
The oberst obviously but maybe this guy can lead too? I cannot find rules for this Waffen PG. THANKS
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Turns out that German turn 8 is when I broke the rules and sent nazi fanatics on boats and that would have resulted in the end of the universe as we know it -
So it appears that I might be able to salvage this game by just redoing that turn.
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@johnnycat Yes, that was my suggestion. Just go back to G8 and play from there. There was something I wanted to change in my US8 turn anyway so I don't mind just going back to G8 and we play forward from that point. There is a rulebook for the Waffen Panzer General in the same location as all of the other rulebooks.
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OK how about this then. For me to start at G8 means that I sort of don't coordinate the mafia turn immediately prior that and in this game I can see how that pair is intimate so I propose restarting at Italy 7 - the photo here is after Italy 7 currently so I would redo that and also get this nazi fanatics back into their cages.
Or we could just play checkers.
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@johnnycat That’s fine
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OK. I will do that
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Right arm
on the Takeover. I'm still gonna do an example for others. Actually I'm gonna do examples for all the complicated stuff. I have a few done but most need updating.Anyway, the ss boys are scared of the water. They get seasick. However they are fearless in the skies so they can use Air Trprt. Remember the reich is the only player that can Air Trprt Armor units.
According to the Captain the reason for no naval transport for ss is game balance and the realism justification is they had much more equipment than their corresponding Wehrmacht units.
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Take 38
nothing special this time. Hopefully this game will develop
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@johnnycat Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 Escort and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 artillery moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 2 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea Combat - ANZAC Battle in Dutch New Guinea Changer loiter and taunt; ANZAC attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Changer defend; Japanese defend with 1 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC win, taking Dutch New Guinea from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Norway Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Bulgaria Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 99 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 113 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - ANZAC Trigger Wolfpack at99 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 99 Sea Zone Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atBulgaria: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria Trigger BritishParaBoost atNorway: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Norway Trigger Wolfpack at113 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 Escort and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC Trigger ANZAC RemoveANZACConvoySZ62Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by ANZAC in 62 Sea Zone Trigger ANZAC RemoveANZACConvoySZ62Invert: ANZAC has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 62 Sea Zone ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs Combat Move - French Combat - French Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Norway Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Bulgaria Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 99 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 113 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - French Trigger Wolfpack at99 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 99 Sea Zone Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atBulgaria: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria Trigger BritishParaBoost atNorway: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Norway Trigger Wolfpack at113 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 113 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@trout said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:
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@johnnycat Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Russians Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Our Factories are Now Producing Tank Destroyers !<br><br><img src="TankDestroyerFS.png"/><br><br></body> Trigger TankDestroyerFS: buyTankDestroyerFS added to productionRussians Russians buy 3 Mass_Tankss, 1 TankDestroyerFS, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 elite and 3 russian_paras; Remaining resources: 22 PUs; 0 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq Russians take Iraq from Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia Russians take Persia from Germans 1 artillery, 1 elite and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia Russians take Karelia from Germans 1 1stTankArmy, 1 2ndCorps, 1 ArmyGroupActive, 3 Army_Conscripts, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 elite, 1 guard_infantry and 14 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 2 guard_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Romania 3 fighters moved from Belarus to Romania 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Romania 1 2ndTankArmy moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 7 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 1 FighterAce moved from Russia to Baltic States 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Baltic States 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Baltic States Combat - Russians Battle in Romania Russians attack with 3 fighters, 2 guard_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians win, taking Romania from Germans with 3 fighters, 2 guard_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 FighterAce, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 FighterAce, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Eastern Poland Russians attack with 1 1stTankArmy, 1 2ndCorps, 1 2ndTankArmy, 1 ArmyGroupActive, 3 Army_Conscripts, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 elite, 1 guard_infantry and 24 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Italians with 1 1stTankArmy, 1 2ndCorps, 1 2ndTankArmy, 1 ArmyGroupActive, 3 Army_Conscripts, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 elite, 1 guard_infantry and 24 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Bulgaria Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 99 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 113 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Russians Trigger Wolfpack at99 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 99 Sea Zone Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atBulgaria: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria Trigger Wolfpack at113 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 113 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 Russian_Rail owned by Russians in Russia Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Russian_Rail owned by Russians in Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 1 Russian_Rail and 1 elite moved from Russia to Caucasus 1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Belarus 1 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 Elitearmour moved from Russia to Belarus 4 armour moved from Russia to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Romania to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Romania to Belarus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Romania to Belarus 3 tactical_bombers moved from Baltic States to Belarus 1 FighterAce moved from Baltic States to Belarus 2 armour moved from Russia to Volgograd 1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia Place Units - Russians 3 Mass_Tankss, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 elite and 3 russian_paras placed in Russia 1 TankDestroyerFS placed in Volgograd Trigger MassTanksPlace3: has removed 3 Mass_Tankss owned by Russians in Russia Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: has removed 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s owned by Russians in Russia Trigger MassTanksPlace3: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 44 PUs; end with 66 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 77 PUsLooks like you are getting the hang of this now! Forming Panzer Armies, setting up your Waffen Armies and not needing to ask any questions at all. Over to Japan now.
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