EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat
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@beelee I asked The Captain for more on this since it seems clear this rule is highly undeveloped and quite new (play testing recently)
And taking out individual transports is exactly what this would be used for I would think.
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@johnnycat Yeah, I still get stunned sometimes with how powerful an attack can be when somebody sends all of their air power against it. That's why Japan is so powerful in the early turns of the game. If they can bring all of that air power to bear on a battle, it's impossible for the Allies to not get wiped out in it. Barnee has made me painfully aware of that several times in our games.
Well looks like you know that! I see where you just wiped me out big time in Yunnan
But Tokyo will fall 
I will set up the Home Defense for you. J gets two free guys and their dudes defend at a 3 for the first round when their homeland gets invaded.
Looks like you need help with the Banzai rule. Don't bother redoing the turn as looks like the game is ending soon anyway. But Banzai can only be used in one way:
- One attack per turn only
- Can only be infantry attacking, nothing else.
- All infantry attacking from one territory attack at 2 instead of 1 for 1st round of combat.
Another one of those rules that is cool but doesn't get used alot because attacks are so much more effective when air/tanks/arty are involved
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@trout WOW. too many rules
or maybe just too many "not useful" rules
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@trout I dont see how you will take Tokyo
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hahahaha. DAM. I put a tank there and was supposed to the 1 inf to take back Japan if you took it. Silly me. There are so many details to this game its amazing
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@johnnycat make it a challenge and swap that tank with an inf from Japan. Please
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@johnnycat otherwise I dont get my big counter attack. Grand Master Chess indeed !!!!!!
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@johnnycat I LOVE THIS GAME
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@johnnycat Okay, was able to set up the Home Defense for you. I see four Naval Mines in 6, is that correct?? Which borders are they on because I can enter from 16 or 17 so I will enter from whichever has less of those pesky things.
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@trout how about forget the sea mines - just swap my tank by my ships with an inf in Japan. that guy is supposed to take back Japan on the DD if you actually take it.
I forgot that the DD only holds inf
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@Trout In the future games I think we might pass on the naval mines - they seem too hard to use or keep track of. except the ones by Gibraltar. hmmm
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@trout and in reality those naval mines would have a decent chance to wipe out transports right? Or is this another thing like the fighter aces where they never get chosen?
Seems to me I maybe should make some new way to chart this naval mines, hmmm. Because IF they can be used reliably and if they can take out random transports then it might become a viable play choice. Until then though they sure do seem complicated to use
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@johnnycat I am very okay with just agreeing to not use Naval Mines in the next game. Personal opinion- I think they only work well in bottlenecks which is when they were used in reality anyway. In the Pacific, it’s just too easy to go around them and you usually have big naval stacks where your escorts can sweep them away
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@johnnycat So two less Naval Mines, and swap the tank and infantry?? Just want to get it right. If I am not correct, please respond with very specifically what you want to change so I get it right for you
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@trout Yes so my assessment is that you could "barely" take Tokyo - but my inf will take it back - so swap the tank on the coast there with an inf in Japan.
I still dont see how you would take Japan, however, if you have to go through the 12 mines.
But in all my tests, you could take it, but not hold it.
So I look forward to the details !
Edit: What I mean, is that the stats tell me that you could not land the units you have on those 12 mines and statistically have enough units to take, and hold, Japan.
EDIT 2: I played out your attack about 20 times over the past 3 days. I took into account all your bombardments and planes and still don't see you taking and holding it. So when you get it done please let me look through the battle so I can learn what I might be missing. THANKS
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@johnnycat Good Morning JC. I am going to guess that there’s a few things missing in your assessment. First, your LMs on average will kill four dudes. Second, you saw how your Air Force wiped me out in Yunnan so how many aircraft are attacking Tokyo? Third, I have one Heavy Bomber in Western USA that can hit Tokyo with double 4’s and land in Iwo Jima. Lastly, I can take those $6 carrier fighters as casualties and then aircraft in Midway, Hawaii, and California can fly over and land on the carriers so that I still have fully loaded carriers for your inevitable counter attack. With those things in mind does your assessment of the probable outcome change??
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@trout like I said there are plenty of things about this game that I still don’t”get”
I accept that !!!
But I still think I’ll get Japan back
That’s all I meant.
And I only see you having a few land units is all.
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@trout and yes I know about the carriers. They were full in my 20 scenario runs
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@trout and on top
Of thatYou could have bad dice rolls.
It happens.
All I’m saying is that I saw this coming and believe I’ll have Japan back !
Otherwise I would have started building our defense a turn earlier.
But back to future games: I’m
Psyched now !!!!
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