EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat

[beelee]

@JohnnyCat

So if you want to place a Fctry in a 3 PU value TTy, you can place a Minor and next turn upgrade to a Major or place the Major initially.

Remember, only original Fctries from Game Start can be upgraded to Heavy Industry.

[Trout]

@johnnycat Hey JC. Looks like you will need to edit your turn. So Waffen Pioneer buy requires that there be a Combat Engineer previously purchased and located in Berlin. Likewise you bought multiple Gruppens. Buying a Gruppen requires there to be an SS Hitler Fanatic dude previously purchased and located in Berlin. In both cases, assuming that previously purchased unit is in Berlin, they are considered upgrades so you place them in 1st phase so that you can move out immediately with them. It's the exact same process you used in G1 when you turned your dudes into SS fanatics in the 1st phase before they ran into Paris to do whatever those SS guys do in such cases during Combat Movement.

Also a Gruppen only works if it forms a Waffen Army. Same for a Panzer General, it only works if it forms a Panzer Army. Otherwise, they operate like any other SS dude or Panzer

[JohnnyCat]

@trout

@trout you do know (I hope) that the real reason I play this game is your AMAZING HUMOR !!!

I will fix this today. Thanks.

This is what I need to fully learn this game.

important QUESTIONS:

1. So in order for a Gruppen to be whatever a Gruppen is, he needs a WaffleHouse Army. Which is what? 4 other any units or must be special zealots?

2. WHY do I want a German Waffle Pioneer ?

3. Why would I want a German Combat Engineer? To remove mines?

[beelee]

@johnnycat

The Oberst is explained page 44 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jI_1JdIC-1KiTihBICJAbtX3GpVYnNgf/view
You will want to read the triplea Game Notes on them as well.

Basically you don't. I've never seen someone buy one but they could be useful in certain situations.

The SS boys have strict membership requirements. They don't play well with outsiders.

Combat Engnrs are pretty handy. Can do a multitude of tasks. I like to have a couple anyways. One thing to be careful with the Reich is all the sexy units they have. At the end of the day, you still need bullet stoppers.

They are in the link I posted about 2 hours ago.

[Trout]

@johnnycat For the Waffle House Army, need three Hitler-worshipers plus a Grumpy. They hit with six dice when active. For Engineers they can do several things but the most effective uses, and the only reason I ever buy them is moving factories and clearing LM’s. I have three sons so I have to be funny in order to keep them positive if I ever have to discipline them. They have daily fights with each other so humor helps while I instill “behavior changing measures” such as…. Well … You can guess

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee Thank you

[JohnnyCat]

@trout
THREE sons!!! Wow. I have a nephew and well never got to the breeding option in my Game of Life Thrones or whatever it is called.

OK to make things easy I just redid the turn. Those darn Greeks got me again tho... Surely because of the Spartan blood. Fun Fact: My Spartan Grandfather came here to the US in 1915

Here is a cleaner version.trout-cat-game-3-GERMANY 2.tsvg

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Something you may find helpful, is looking at the TimeTable before you purchase, so you can see what Units are going to be available the next turn, as some of them will require Units already in Berlin in order to place them.

[Trout]

@johnnycat Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Note to players Russians: It is Late 1940 and the Red Army has begun Organizing Army Groups. You may have up to 2 Army Groups. Only 1 may be active per Territory.  
        Trigger Army GroupUSSR: buyArmy_Group added to productionRussians
        Russians buy 1 Soviet_Commisar, 4 armour and 1 elite; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia

    Combat - Russians
        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail owned by Russians in Russia
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Belarus
        2 russian_paras moved from Russia to Novgorod
        2 russian_paras moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Russia to Belarus
        2 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
        1 armour moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
        1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 fighters moved from Russia to Novgorod
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 Russian_Rail moved from Russia to Buryatia
        1 Russian_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Belarus
        1 Russian_Rail moved from Russia to Buryatia
        1 Russian_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Belarus

    Place Units - Russians
        1 Soviet_Commisar, 4 armour and 1 elite placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 46 PUs

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Emperor of the Rising Sun is up next

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee GREAT suggestion. Thank you. I now play with three pages open to the various rules, and will constult that thing every turn ; chess is nothing compared to this...

[beelee]

@johnnycat

heh heh I still keep two open at all times. One for table of contents and one to scroll lol

Edit
and all the new ones bookmarked. Probably easier just to go to The Captain's page for those.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout @beelee

QUESTION (again I try to answer first by reading the rules so I ask only after searching)

1. Can we build large or small factories on those Money Islands?

So I was thinking about building a massive urban metropolis with gambling and legal red light districts and fortune tellers...and water slides. lots and lots of water slides on BORNEO

2. Can I put airbases and harbors anywhere?

Thx

[beelee]

@johnnycat

Yea No Fctry builds on Islands in G 40.

Yes to Harbors and ABs. Obviously no Harbors in Central Asia

New ABs can be upgraded to scramble 4 as well.

Probably best to shy away from the red lights in Indonesia anyway. Idk. They might get a bit touchy about that.

Edit
No worries. I know it's hard trying to track all this stuff down. I have had the same problem myself many times.

[JohnnyCat]

@trout oKdoki The emperor has sent some wonderful new Geisha Girls to the Philippines.

So do you send out your 2 fighter planes to greet these elegant ladies?

By the way: @beelee and @trout what do you think of us preparing a sort of obvious scramble decisions as defaults and no need to ask? Or do you do that already?

I could see the opening German attack being a no brainer as well as things like this Philippines gig. Like why would you EVER send out two fighters to attack 2 BB, a cruiser and other stuff? Or is there some tricky thing I do not know?

Anyway gotta get your order Sir?

trout-cat-game-3-JAPAN2.tsvg

[beelee]

@johnnycat

yea usually when it's obvious one will just roll the battle and if for some reason that wasn't the decision, you reroll the battle by hand.

Usually G1 battle that may need orders is 111 but if 110 goes light it may as well. The destruction of German Air early game can have a signifigant impact, as that is one of Germany's best assets.

Usually one doesn't want to give UK the option to do it, although sometimes 111 will happen. Other strats don't attack 111 1st rd so there is some variance, which makes it fun of course

All of that is a long winded way of saying, if it seems obvious, roll on through and redo with dice roller if it wasn't what your opponent wanted to do

[JohnnyCat]

@beelee OK cool. So in my case what is the "obvious?" I would assume no scramble but I dunno.

[beelee]

@johnnycat

yea most likely he won't but I would wait and ask as he could scramble 1 Ftr just to negate the Bombard.

He'll probably lose anyway but when in doubt I'd just ask and wait.

If you're familiar having played multiple games with your opponent it becomes easier to decide

[Trout]

@johnnycat No scramble- you guys were correct. Filipinos prefer that Congee to scrambled eggs. I love 99% of foreign food but congee and Japanese natto - no go forever for this dude

[JohnnyCat]

@trout @beelee

Good Morning Mates; quick QUESTION.

I took some island and have to choose who paid the ULTIMATE PRICE

Choice between artillery and inf sucker

If I choose to keep the infantry and can make one of those fortifications that mean my inf defends like a tank...

But the artillery is more pricey in value so the QUESTION IS: can the art Las make one of those FORTS?

I'll keep doing my turn and I will get rid of the inf - but please let me change to saving the ART if artillery can also make those forts.

QUESTION 2:

I need to know if the planes on carriers next to zone 6 can scramble to intercept the Americans that will surely drive over to zone 6 to try and take that zone. Does this make sense?

In the photo : Can the planes in zone 19 intercept any shenanigans taking place in zone 6?

"Shenanigans" refers to secret, dishonest, or tricky activities, as well as high-spirited mischief, playful pranks, or silliness. Originating in the mid-19th century, this informal term often describes behavior that is inconvenient, sneaky, or questionable rather than truly dangerous

[beelee]

@johnnycat

No only regular Inf can make Forts. Elites can't or any other Unit.

I usually keep the Inf for that reason. Obviously it depends on the situation but generally that's what I do.

Edit
No the Ftrs in 19 would only defend in 19 SZ