EXP G40 Game 4 Trout (Axis) vs Panzer (Allies)
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Howdy from Texas! I am considering doing Sea Lion preparations with a mass transport build this turn so need to ask if you would like to try out the new Total Victory House Rule? It matters in whether I do Sea Lion and if so, how. Because if I do Sea Lion and win, it's going to mean weakening my forces on the Eastern Front and in the Med. Me and Beelee once played a game not too long ago when I captured London and held but still almost lost because Soviets were ravaging Eastern Europe and Med was completely in Allied hands. Which means I would need to plan for capturing London AND how I defend the Reich after the ensuing carnage.
My vote would be to use the Total Victory conditions but if you prefer not to, I understand.
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Greetings from Frankfurt/Germany.
Sweet! I just went through the new victory condition. They are very cool and support longer games.So I totally agree to use these conditions.
BR
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Great! Then let's do it. For the amphib attack on Normandy, scramble SZ 110?
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Sorry - use this one
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no scramble.
The boys are still at the Pubs.... -
Me and Beelee once played a game not too long ago when I captured London and held but still almost lost because Soviets were ravaging Eastern Europe and Med was completely in Allied hands. Which means I would need to plan for capturing London AND how I defend the Reich after the ensuing carnage.
I once also had a pleasure against beelee of taking London as Germany, but it was quite some hard work to take Russia down afterwards. So I am very courious how this will develop.
BR
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 I guess we will both find out!
Game History
Round: 4 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Note to players Germans: It is Late 1941 and the Reich has Promoted their Best Panzer Commanders to Elite Status ! Elite Panzers are Now Available for Purchase. You May Only Purchase One Per Turn. Note to players Germans: <body><b>Naval Commanders are Now Available for Purchase</b></body> Note to players Germans: It is Late 1941 and Nations Around the World are Producing Naval Escorts to Counter the U-Boat and Submarine Threat! Transports Now Defend at 1 . Use Edit to Place and Remove Escort Conv.... Trigger TransportsD1: Setting defense to 1 for unitAttachment attached to transport Trigger RocketsUSSR: buyRussian_Rockets added to productionRussians Trigger GermansElitePanzer: buyElitePanzer added to productionGermans Trigger FrenchEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionFrench Trigger BritishEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionBritish Trigger ANZACEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionANZAC Trigger AmericansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionAmericans Trigger NavalCommander: buyGNC added to productionGermans Trigger NavalCommander: buyJNC added to productionJapanese Trigger NavalCommander: buyUSANC added to productionAmericans Trigger NavalCommander: buyUKNC added to productionBritish Trigger RussiansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionRussians Trigger JapaneseEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionJapanese Trigger ItaliansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionItalians Trigger GermansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionGermans triggerAttachmenLate1941Red: has removed 1 Late1941 owned by Changer in Late 1941 triggerAttachmenEarly1941: has removed 1 Early1941_red owned by Changer in Early 1941 triggerAttachmenLate1941Red: Changer has 1 Late1941_red placed in Late 1941 triggerAttachmenEarly1941: Changer has 1 Early1941 placed in Early 1941 Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Germans buy 1 ElitePanzer, 1 Escort, 1 GermanUBoat and 9 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Germans takes Scotland from British EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 German_Heavy_BB moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 Me_109T moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Western Germany to Scotland EDIT: 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Scotland Combat - Germans Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 UK_LCV, 1 elite, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 UK_LCV, 1 elite and 1 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost Battle in 91 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 GermanUBoats and 1 fighter British defend with 1 transport Germans win with 2 GermanUBoats and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 2 G_Rails owned by Germans in Western Germany Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Western Germany 1 German_LCV moved from Germany to Western Germany 2 waffen_infantrys moved from Germany to Denmark 2 G_Rails, 1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 elite, 1 german_para and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 Panzer_Grndrs moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 GermanUBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 elite and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 2 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Germany 2 WaffenPioneers moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 2 armour moved from Romania to Germany 1 german_para moved from Romania to Greece 1 G_Rail moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 G_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Greece to Western Germany EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupCentre moved from Slovakia Hungary to Army Group Centre EDIT: 7 infantry moved from Army Group Centre to Germany EDIT: 3 artilleries moved from Army Group Centre to Germany EDIT: 1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany EDIT: 2 aaGuns moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Army Group Centre to 1st Waffen EDIT: Germans undo move 30. EDIT: 1 1stPanzerArmy moved from Army Group Centre to Western Germany EDIT: 1 Waffen_Arty moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania EDIT: 1 waffen_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania EDIT: Germans undo move 32. EDIT: Germans undo move 31. EDIT: Germans undo move 30. EDIT: Germans undo move 29. EDIT: Germans undo move 28. EDIT: 1 1stPanzerArmy moved from Army Group Centre to Western Germany EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Army Group Centre to Romania 1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany EDIT: 1 1stPanzerArmy moved from Western Germany to 1st Panzer EDIT: 5 armour moved from 1st Panzer to Western Germany EDIT: 1 Panzer_General moved from 1st Panzer to Germany 1 G_Rail moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 G_Rail and 1 armour moved from Greece to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 ElitePanzer placed in Germany 1 Escort and 1 GermanUBoat placed in 113 Sea Zone 9 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 65 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs33a98c46-8938-4748-ae3c-00df38270d73-exp-game-4-trout-vs.panzer-g4.tsvg
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Mr. Churchill under pressure already!
Mr. Stalin marching towrads Berlin already.
Very interessting setup at the front lines.Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Late 1941 and We have Developed Rockets !<br><br><img src="Russian_Rockets.png"/><br><br><br />Russia can Now Purchase Rockets.<b></body> Note to players Russians: It is Late 1941 and Comrade Stalin has Promoted the Best of Our Rifle Divisions to Guard Status ! Russia can purchase 3 Guard Infantry for 10 PUs. They can only be placed in Moscow. .... Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Late 1941 and Soviet Partisan Bands are Forming !<br><br><img src="Soviet_Partisan.png"/><br><br><img src="SP.png"/><br><br><br />Russia can Now Purchase Partisans.<b></body> Trigger RussianGuards: buyGuard_Infantry added to productionRussians Trigger Soviet Partisan: buySoviet_Partisan added to productionRussians Russians buy 4 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 elite and 3 guard_infantrys; Remaining resources: 15 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; Politics - Russians Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Romania to 1st Waffen EDIT: 1 Waffen_Oberst_3 moved from GermanFlow to 1st Waffen EDIT: 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst_3 and 2 waffen_infantrys moved from 1st Waffen to Romania EDIT: 2 russian_paras moved from Caucasus to Romania 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Romania 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Romania 3 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Russia to Romania Combat - Russians Battle in Romania Russians attack with 1 armour, 3 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry, 2 russian_paras and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst_3, 1 infantry and 2 waffen_infantrys 3 bombers owned by the Russians retreated Germans win with 1 waffen_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -19 Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry, 2 russian_paras and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for Germans: 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst_3, 1 infantry and 1 waffen_infantry Non Combat Move - Russians Trigger RussianFctrys: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to russian_minor Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Eastern Poland Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail owned by Russians in Karelia 3 bombers moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 12 infantry and 4 mine_unarmeds moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 elite, 12 infantry and 5 mine_unarmeds moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 elite and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 9 mine_unarmeds moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 1 Soviet_Commisar and 1 armour moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 russian_para moved from Russia to Eastern Poland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Iraq 6 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 1 armour moved from Urals to Smolensk 2 Russian_Rails moved from Russia to Ukraine 2 Russian_Rails and 1 russian_minor moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland 1 R_Europe_Rail moved from Russia to Novgorod 1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 russian_minor moved from Novgorod to Karelia 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 11 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia 7 mine_unarmeds moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone Place Units - Russians 4 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 elite and 3 guard_infantrys placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 52 PUs33a98c46-8938-4748-ae3c-00df38270d73-exp-game-4-trout-vs.panzer-r4.tsvg
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 @beelee Yes, am curious how this turns out! So I had to crack open the rulebook to figure this out but I am still a little unclear. I believe your Russian subs in SZs 112/113 will not block transport loading but I am not entirely sure when it comes to LCVs and the two Pioneers. I saw where enemy transports block LCV loading. I didn't see anything about subs blocking that but maybe I am wrong about that?? Added beelee in case he knows also.
I can do my J turn without knowing the answer so no hurry on it.
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Tojo's fanatic minions have pleaded with the Emperor to let their glorious nation, attack USA. Emperor agreed so long as they don't attack Hawaii at this time. Scramble SZ 35?
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Tojo's fanatic minions have pleaded with the Emperor to let their glorious nation, attack USA. Emperor agreed so long as they don't attack Hawaii at this time. Scramble SZ 35?
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no scramble
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 @beelee Yes, am curious how this turns out! So I had to crack open the rulebook to figure this out but I am still a little unclear. I believe your Russian subs in SZs 112/113 will not block transport loading but I am not entirely sure when it comes to LCVs and the two Pioneers. I saw where enemy transports block LCV loading. I didn't see anything about subs blocking that but maybe I am wrong about that?? Added beelee in case he knows also.
I can do my J turn without knowing the answer so no hurry on it.
It does not affect loading or unloading.
The subs are there to kiss each other good night
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