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    • General_ZodG Offline
      General_Zod @Mahks
      last edited by

      @mahks

      Yeah spelled out seems best.

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      • redrumR Offline
        redrum Admin @Mahks
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        @mahks You essentially have 3 things:

        1. Air battle (air attack, air defense, intercept, etc) - this is when you have escorts, intercepts, bombers fight before bombing
        2. Bombing (aka. SBR, strategic bombing raid, etc) - this is when AA fires at bombers and bombers roll damage facilities
        3. Bombard (aka. naval bombard) - ships like battleships can bombard enemy land units during an amphibious assault

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        • General_ZodG Offline
          General_Zod @redrum
          last edited by General_Zod

          @Mahks

          FYI: Scrambles are also a separate thing from air battle. It allows isAir to engage all units in main battle from a neighboring territory or sea zone.

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          • C Offline
            Cernel Moderators Lobby Moderators @Mahks
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            @mahks I would drop the "strategic", and just call them "bombing raids". Almost anything in TripleA is "strategic" (I know that was used to differentiate stand-alone bombing).

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            • MahksM Offline
              Mahks
              last edited by Mahks

              So we have 4 terms:

              • Air Attack
              • Scramble
              • Bombing Raid (SBR)
              • Naval Bombardment (NB)

              Are we agreed?

              or just forget the abbreviations?

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              • C Offline
                Cernel Moderators Lobby Moderators @Mahks
                last edited by

                @mahks If one is called "Naval Bombardment (NB)", I would call the other "Air Bombing Raid (ABR)".

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                • General_ZodG Offline
                  General_Zod @Mahks
                  last edited by General_Zod

                  @mahks

                  Actually Air Battle is better, since it includes interceptors which are actually on defending side. It also includes escorts who are attackers.

                  The rest are acceptable. Although Strategic makes SBR acronym work.

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                  • MahksM Offline
                    Mahks
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                    Just had a thought, what about non WW2 maps, ie; space, fantasy & historical.

                    Are we going to run into the same issue as with AA, where it is not necessarily anti aircraft fire?

                    In that thread we are discussing 'first strike' or 'targeted strike' rather than AA fire, so as to have a wider scope.

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                    • General_ZodG Offline
                      General_Zod @Mahks
                      last edited by

                      @mahks

                      It's possible someone gets really creative with these options. But that's on the mapmaker to dream up.

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                      • MahksM Offline
                        Mahks
                        last edited by Mahks

                        XML schema (meaning element names NOT stuff in comments) contains these references to SBR :

                        • "Limit SBR Damage Per Turn"
                        • "Limit SBR Damage To Factory Production"
                        • "SBR Victory Points"

                        All other references seem to use 'bombing'.

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                        • General_ZodG Offline
                          General_Zod @Mahks
                          last edited by General_Zod

                          @mahks

                          Air Battle (AB)
                          Scramble
                          Strategic Bombing Raid (SBR)
                          Naval Bombardment (NB)

                          The terms above are fine imo. Dropping strategic would ruin our well known acronym. I think most will immediately get the gist of what this refers to.

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                          • MahksM Offline
                            Mahks @General_Zod
                            last edited by

                            @general_zod That gets my vote

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                            • redrumR Offline
                              redrum Admin @General_Zod
                              last edited by

                              @general_zod said in Terms: bombing:

                              @mahks

                              Air Battle (AB)
                              Scramble
                              Strategic Bombing Raid (SBR)
                              Naval Bombardment (NB)

                              The terms above are fine imo. Dropping strategic would ruin our well known acronym. I think most will immediately get the gist of what this refers to.

                              I'm fine with those as well. You could probably drop "naval" and just have "bombardment" if you want. In theory, some day we could expand the "bombardment" concept to allow land/air units to perform it for adjacent territories.

                              TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                              • General_ZodG Offline
                                General_Zod @redrum
                                last edited by General_Zod

                                @redrum

                                Yeah that would be sweet. It would allow long range artillery bombardments.

                                @Mahks
                                So I'm ok with calling Bombardment in that case.

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                                • redrumR Offline
                                  redrum Admin @General_Zod
                                  last edited by

                                  @general_zod Yeah, its something I've always wanted to add. Though you can kind of simulate it using 'createsUnitList' to generate suicide units and remove them if they aren't used. But that is a bit hacky overall.

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