trigger question - unit with hit

wc_sumpton

Lets take a crack at this. First you want to check for any Americans_west battleship's, and your check looks ok...

<attachment name="conditionAttachmentPearlHarbour" attachTo="Americans_west" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
   <!-- maybe try 'directExclusionTerritories' -->
   <option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="map"/>
   <!-- 'unitPresence' does not take a player so remove 'Americans_west' -->
   <!-- If you need to reference a different player use <option name="players" ... /> -->
   <option name="unitPresence" value="battleship" count="0"/>
   <option name="rounds" value="1"/>
      <!-- Not needed since attachTo = 'Americans_West' -->
      <!-- <option name="players" value="Americans_west"/> -->
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentBBrefloating_PearlHarbour" attachTo="Americans_west" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
   <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentPearlHarbour"/>
   <option name="when" value="after:americans_westCombatMove"/>
   <!-- 'placement' does not take a player -->
   <option name="placement" value="53 Sea Zone:battleship" count="1"/>
</attachment>

See if that helps. As to placing a damage unit, I don't think there is a way, but I could be wrong. You could request a feature to do so, but it would not be added to 1.9.

Cheers...

Numetalfan

Hi,

I am still working on the trigger problem,

however I have another problem with the battleship

I reduced the price from 20 to 18.
BUT: the programm still shows the price of 20 when starting a new game - why?

the codings are:

<property name="Two hit battleship" value="true" editable="false">
  <boolean/>
</property>

<property name='Two HitPoint Units Require Repair Facilities' value='true' editable='true'>
	<boolean/>
<unit name="battleship"/>

  <frontierRules name="buyBattleship"/>

Anyone an idea what it is?

Numetalfan

battleship problems are solved - back to the triggers

Numetalfan

Hi all, I solved the problems with triggers:

a) a new unit
<unit name="USS Tennessee"/>

b) definition of it with a hit point

c) triggers

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentBBrefloating_PearlHarbour" attachTo="Americans_west" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment"

type="player">
<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentPearlHarbour"/>
<option name="when" value="after:americans_westCombatMove"/>
<option name="placement" value="53 Sea Zone:USS Tennessee" count="1"/>
<option name='uses' value='1'/>
</attachment>

it works very well !

Numetalfan

@beelee

works,

but you get a "normal" battleship, not the one with a hit

is also wrong

I still look for a way to place a BB with a hit by a trigger, without creating special units

Numetalfan

Repair problem:

In case of a soultion where you drop a special unit by a trigger and that unit represents a BB with a hit, you have to define in the xml a way how to repair it.

so in the trigger you replace that unit with a regular BB and everything is fine.

My problem here is the trigger condition,
because you never know where the user will move the special unit on the map.

E.g. around UK there are already five sea zones connected with the factory. At the start of AA41 the allies have 9 sea zones adjancent to a factory. And each buy of a new factory increases that number.

And any sea zone like that would be OK to repair because

are both active.

So what would be the coding in the condition to "repair"(get replaced) such a special unit if it ends its turn adjacent to an allied factory?

beelee

@numetalfan yea Idk how to do it without a special unit. I did it like hepps in TWW and ended up with

<attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="battleship-damaged" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
<option name="movement" value="2"/>
<option name="attack" value="4"/>
<option name="defense" value="4"/>
<option name="isSea" value="true"/>
<option name="canBombard" value="true"/>
<option name="bombard" value="2"/>
<option name="hitPoints" value="2"/>
<option name="whenHitPointsRepairedChangesInto" value="0:true:battleship"/>
</attachment>

Then for your repair unit you could try removing it from repairsUnits in Harbour

and add it to your repair unit which would require a harbour to place. That still would work when harbour was damaged though. You might be able to try and have it place only with undamaged harbour. Idk if you can do that though. If you already had a repair unit placed, it'd still repair as well.

Edit
Yea actually it does work by not allowing you to place the repair unit in a damaged harbour or factory. That's what I did with "Factory Limited" in Global 40 House Rules.

beelee

@numetalfan said in trigger question - unit with hit:

@beelee

<unitPlacement unitType="battleship" territory="118 Sea Zone" quantity="1" owner="Germans" hitsTaken="1"/>

works,

but you get a "normal" battleship, not the one with a hit

Idk why that's not working. That's what I used in Oztea 41.

Numetalfan

@beelee

thx for the advice, but one difference ist clear.

My coding

is part of a trigger, while your code

is part of the initial setup.

..

★
unitPlacement
Define initial unit placement
An object withinunitInitialize
Parameters:
unitType: Any unit in the unitList
territory: Any territory in map
quantity: integer
owner: Any player in playerList
These units will already be on the map when the game begins.

beelee

@numetalfan ahh yea that is different. Sadly that doesn't work then. I guess you'll have to use a special unit.

Numetalfan

@beelee

I am afraid this is the way to go.

Then I need a second trigger, one that is activated when that special unit ends its turn adjacant to a factory. Then I will repair it by exchange it with a normal battleship.

Any idea how to do this?

beelee

@numetalfan so if i understand right you want a BB with 1 hit placed with your trgger ? If so make a unit such as in the above post "BattleShip-damaged"

I think the Factory will auto repair it but if not add the
<option name="repairsUnits" value="battleship-damaged"/>
to the Factory

so you shouldn't need a second trigger

Edit
yea disregard the stuff about the Harbour. I was confusing it with what I did. You just want the Factory to auto repair same as any damaged BB

beelee

@beelee not sure what units you're using but I have Global 40 ones in Global 40 House Rules if you want to just copy them

Numetalfan

@beelee
that's it

</attachment>

My "special unit" was very similar, but the most important coding is:

that is what I missed
thx

Numetalfan

@beelee

I still miss something, everythings works fine, but the repairing ist not happening

here you see the new unit adjacant to a factory, but it was not repaired

the codes are:

<property name="Units Repair Hits End Turn" value="true" editable="true">
<boolean/>
</property>
<property name="Two hit battleship" value="true" editable="false">
<boolean/>
</property>
<property name='Two HitPoint Units Require Repair Facilities' value='true' editable='true'>
<boolean/>
</property>
<attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="factory" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
<option name="isFactory" value="true"/>
<option name="isAAforBombingThisUnitOnly" value="true"/>
<option name='repairsUnits' value='battleship:battleship-damaged'/>
</attachment>
<attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="battleship-damaged" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType">
<option name="movement" value="2"/>
<option name="attack" value="4"/>
<option name="defense" value="4"/>
<option name="isSea" value="true"/>
<option name="canBombard" value="true"/>
<option name="hitPoints" value="2"/>
<option name="whenHitPointsRepairedChangesInto" value="0:true:battleship"/>
</attachment>

I wonder what is missing

beelee

@numetalfan yea so unfortunately, that's not gonna work. If i edit the damaged BB to have 1 hit point of damage, then it does. But if we could do that we wouldn't need it anyway. So back to the same issue.

I suggest looking at how "Hulls" work in Total World War. I'm gonna take a look at it myself. It seems as if you ought to be able to make something work with the Hulls. I'm not real familiar with them but think you place them and make it turn into a BB by using "consumesUnits" somehow.

Here's what he has

I'm not sure how it changes. I'm gonna read up on it

beelee

@beelee Still not quite sure how it works

consumesUnits
values: requires that a unit be present in a territory, then when this unit is placed the other units are destroyed / upgraded into this unit. Can have multiple instances of this, which means it consumes multiple types of units.

beelee

@beelee hmm...yea I don't think that's gonna work either. Because you can't place your BB then w/out a Damaged one. What is the exact scenario again ? Is this for the PH attack ? Or you want to be able to do this anywhere ?

Edit
Ok I just went through th thread again and I think WC is right, you can't place a damaged unit in game. Might be able to figure out away to make your scenario still work though. I'm gonna think on it some more

beelee

Ok so have the DamagedBB placed when your trigger sees all the BBs sunk. Might as well make it a A0 D0 M0 since it's not going anywhere. Then your -10 PU trigger fires when he sees it's there. Then at the start of JPNs turn have a trigger remove it. That way if JPN attacks again it won't be there to soak a hit.

Numetalfan

@beelee

that was excatly my first programming, but this way of doing it restricts the game. I want the user to decide what he does.

If he decides to move the damaged BB to a shore next to factory it should be repaired, if the player decides to attack with it, it should be possible too.

I think the programmers should enlarge the "placement" function by the battleship_hit.