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  placement/removeUnits Question
  • beelee

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  @Frostion
  So what's been working for getting the units to move when they're first placed is to have them place on the player's turn before the player who receives the units turn.

  I was always just doing the default where they were placed on your combat move and then they wouldn't do anything. So use the same trigger just set when so it fires the player before. I'm not sure if you can have it fire at the end of there turn and still work (haven't tried it) but any time before their combat move has been working.

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  Need Unit Colored
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  @prastle 0_1488218278405_mobileArtillery.zip
  Works like a charm :)

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  Custom Tech Givin to All Players ?
  • beelee

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  @Frostion
  Right on. I just found my mistake. Didn't have the conditions player specific. I thought I had but must've been to bleary eyed last night : )

  Thanks again for your help Frostion, it's all clicking now. : )

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  How do invisible units work ?
  • beelee

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  @Frostion
  Hmm...yea that's what I thought. I haven't tried your unit yet, so maybe it'll work. The more I think about it though, I don't think the invisible unit will solve what I'm trying to do. It's good to know how they work though.

  Basically I need a different players unit be able to allow placement of a another players unit. I thought with nation specific units, it'd work. I probably need to try that again.

  Anyway, thanks for your help. It's appreciated : )

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  Question about removing unit placement limit
  • Kao

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  @Kao
  Right on Kao ! Love it when a plan comes together :) Cernel is pretty sharp with the xml program

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  Can whenCapturedChangesInto turn the unit to a neutral unit?
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  R&D
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  Another example of the sloppyness of using units as pseudo-resources (for tech or whatever) is that, then, the Unit Help tab in the menu becomes not really helping anymore. You can see what I mean if you click on Help/Unit Help in Age of Tribes, and see all the various actual units and develop-units mixed up at random.
  This would be solved if only a developer would add for conditions the ability to test for resources (still not as good as having a good tech phase for it, but at least better than using units as tech tokens).

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  Need the units shown itself in a folder
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  cannot load a map i created
  • Idodoappo

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  @Idodoappo said in cannot load a map i created:

  games.strategy.engine.data.GameParseException: MapName: file:/M:/TripleA_1.9.0.0.3453/maps/4chan/games/TumblrChan.xml, Error setting property:victoryCity cause:Attachments: true is not a valid int value

  Here is the error: games.strategy.engine.data.GameParseException: MapName: file:/M:/TripleA_1.9.0.0.3453/maps/4chan/games/TumblrChan.xml, Error setting property:victoryCity cause:Attachments: true is not a valid int value

  It appears you are setting the "victoryCity" property to true instead of an int value which is invalid.

  From pact of steel 2 XML (https://github.com/triplea-maps/the_pact_of_steel/blob/master/map/games/pact_of_steel_2.xml):
  victoryCity - values: a victory city is typically used for victory conditions. Is actually an integer, so you can set it to 0, or 1, or 2, or greater numbers. victoryCity uses an image located in the "misc" folder of a map called "vc.png", and the location is determined in a file called "vc.txt" in the map's root directory

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  Support question
  • Hepps

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  @CrazyG Remember that MacArthur did this exact thing when he escaped from Corregidor. Just food for thought :wink:

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  Standalone map creation tools
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  @Zim-Xero That's probably pretty accurate. I think maybe the better question is we have a few different tools and none of them work that well but what are the useful pieces of each one. I think the goal is to decide what needs to be kept and then figure out how to integrate what we have together. Then we can look to hopefully make some significant improvements.

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  Lets make a new Map Making Guide
  • Frostion

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  @theredbaron So I actually think the part that needs documented better is the "process" and what tools people use today. While documenting the different mechanics and the POS 2 XML would be useful, I think we really need to evaluate map making process as a whole before sinking lots of time into something like that.

  I'd really like to vastly improve the map making tools but currently don't even have a good feel for how folks actually create maps.

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  Specific unit type attack trigger
  • Frostion

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  I think what needs to be added to the game at some point is "attack animations or cut sequences". These, by default would be on, but could be turned off by a user. Right now the only way to approximate this is in specific scenarios using kamikaze type attacks or pre-programmed choices.

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  12 sided dice combat
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  Thanks all.

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  Error while loading map
  • thephalanx1453

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  @thephalanx1453 Np. FYI, most XML editing tools can be used to validate the XML against the "game.DTD" to ensure its valid before trying to start a game: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/master/src/main/resources/games/strategy/engine/xml/game.dtd

  This will often give you hints on what the issue is.

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  Query about the Engine
  • Hepps

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  @redrum said in Query about the Engine:

  I went back and looked at the old forum. The 2 main threads I found talking about features/priorities/etc are:
  http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/Development-To-Do-list-tp7582044.html
  http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/Your-Wish-List-for-Top-Two-TripleA-Improvements-tp7588933.html

  Some of those ideas are in the github issues list:
  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues

  As partially said in the linked post, my first 3 items I wish some developers would do are:

  Allow for deliberate retreating; in that when you win a battle you get asked how much units you want to consolidate and can somewhat retreat all the others (it is dumb that in dice you cannot retreat if you were "too" lucky or in LL you have to pile up exactly that power to get the "hit-all-but-one" result).

  Having units that didn't move at all gaining a (settable and unit distinctive on board) defence bonus (related to the above, as it would be silly that if you attack and retreat then all your stack is just as ready to defend as if it stayed there on the ready).

  Having ammunition consumption; in that you have a "suicide" unit that can actually attack only as long as there is another unit in the same battle, in a 1:1 or more ratio for suicide:suicidator (shells:artillery) units; this should also work that you may require such a "suicide" unit for AA attacks (like your AA guns fire only as long as they have a "shell" unit to use, that suicides).
  I want to point out that in WW2 the cost of shells was normally much higher than the cost of the artilleries firing them (especially for AA guns) and in medieval times the cost of a warbow was about the same as 24 arrows, which you can loose in a couple minutes.

  But having a way to deliberately surely strafe in great superiority, without having to play Low Luck in order to be safe to do so, is really almost a fix, as Low Luck basically already allows it, and dice should allow it too.

  Also, another item would be fully supporting the ability to have units moving faster during non combat than combat move, as that is very important, for realism (already supported and possible, as you can give bonus movement in non combat, but there are a few issues).

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  Unit repair no longer working
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  I have found the problem. These are new lines of code that need to be there:

  <property name="Units Repair Hits Start Turn" value="true" editable="true">
  <boolean/>
  </property>
  <property name="Units Repair Hits End Turn" value="false" editable="true">
  <boolean/>
  </property>

  The old ones referring to battleships repairing at start or end don't hurt anything if they are there but they no longer work for units in 1.9.

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  Is there a simple mechanism?
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  @Cernel I was actually looking to use this as a control mechanism rather than as a method of up-grading a unit.

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  Unit Shows As Invisible No Matter What I Do
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  @RogerCooper It appears this map was a separate mod of hearts of iron which are no longer supported in 1.9. The reason it doesn't find the images is that its only looking here:
  Loading resources from the following paths: [C:\maps\hearts_of_iron.zip, C:\Users\ron\Documents\GitHub\triplea\assets]

  To resolve this you should either do:

  Merge this into hearts_of_iron (copy game XML and any needed images into it so you have just 1 zip with 2 games) Copy all assets from hearts_of_iron to HeartsofIron_Fatherland so its a standalone map and then update the name property in the game XML so it no longer points to hearts of iron:
  <property name="mapName" value="Hearts of Iron" editable="false"/>
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  Map Making Help - SAXParseException
  • VonnVary

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  @VonnVary It appears that you potentially started creating the map with an older version of TripleA as you need to make sure in the XML that its "attachment" instead of "attatchment". Here is a list of potentially changes you need to fix when upgrading to TripleA 1.9: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/wiki/Upgrade-Maps-Information

  If you still see errors after fixing that then feel free to post your XML for us to look at.