New Steampunk Advance Thread
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@rogercooper been doing that ... I just don't got time lol ...
I am also planning on eventually doing a 2nd American Civil War thing based on an ahistorical ISOT/Isekai scenario in AH.Com -
y'all seem to agree that washington and st petersburg fall to easily which i've not found... although in the case of washington that's prob b/c for years i always play this map from a saved game where i added a bunch of units + techs including giving usa many factories...
the capitals i find super easy and quick to take are london (graf dropped airborne) and constantinople (pontoon bridged militia + artillery) - the ai can't seem to defend itself against attacks from across the sea; especially by air. [first noticed this on the great war map where the ai builds an aagun at every factory in range of a strategic bombing zeppelin except in britain b/c they can only be attacked from across the north sea.]
in my mod i've made things worse by making tokyo very likely to fall first turn to nemo... maybe i'll reinforce it with maginot.i've never liked suicide units... so i dropped assassins and penal units in my mod.
when i started my mod i just meant to correct some missing connections and add some units to mars to make them playable... and then it snowballed. i added some units and objectives and gave the fiction based islands bonuses (+tech or +free units) and messed with the techs...
i suppose now that 2.6 has rolled out i'll have to make yet more changes...i've only just started playing it so i'm not sure how much i've messed up the balance... oh yeah, this map was never balanced.
don't know if anyone else would be interested in my mod or how we're supposed to share such things anyway...
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@cameron Washington D.C is easy to take from the AI if you just rush in and put resources into Mexico as Germany. Even if you can't, your still going to keep them at 30 IPC at most. As Martian, I been able to do it multiple times since AI can't react to the rush move half of the time.
St.Petersburg is basically building transports to bring Snipers + Infantry along with Graf's to attack the city. Hard for Russia to do much against this Turn 2 kill.
London and Constantinople is interesting. I never thought of quickly taking them but good on you ... I will take note on that.
Now I like suicide units and they fit the game IMO. I just think that Assassins need to be defense-minded. Penal's are fine since Russia's low production prevents spam
Martians IMO could use more units (A human mercenary troop could be cool IMO and help them be less weak to gas) though the big thing is that they should get random landings before their turn starts to make them a world threat. Now in terms of winning, I have won as all 4 nations with the hardest being Central Powers and Nemo Pirates
To Share the mod, try asking someone. I would be curious to see others focus on working on this game.
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@board-3659 You can e-mail your mod and I will turn it from a tsvg to a proper mod. rogercoop@aol.com
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@rogercooper I made a mod of it but it's unfinished. I think you meant to pin cameron since he made his mod
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i think the main reason i added a bunch of factories to usa, especially washington dc, probably was that they fell too easily. mainly b/c the bot would almost never reinforce washington dc. although i feel like over the years as the AI has improved the bots do actually build factories now. the AI really has come a long way from when i started playing triplea!
sounds like you do to st petersburg what i do to london.
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@cameron yeah though you do need to send a cruiser to block a British attack on transports and send the fleet to wreak Russian in turn 1. It's not too hard though and once you do it's pretty easy to take turn 2 or 3
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I think the difficulty in having 4 players to do a playtest is hurting the ability to balance the game
While there are obvious things we can fix, I think it would be helpful if we can somehow be able to get a playtest going
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Guys would a play by forum style game work?
Who's up to playing -
i've not actually played tripleA against humans in many many years...
although play-by-forum would prob fit my playstyle of doing little bits at a time inbetween the rest of life...now that i'm more or less finished my steampunk mod i'm kinda focused on playing that a bit. keep on finding things i missed...
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if anyone is interested in my mod here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14_SlLRB_PrJOzgdd64bsXoz32eMJSYzt/view?usp=sharing
hopefully it's not too much of a mess. i think that it's playable at least. although i need to learn about the new isAI feature to make the bots less daft.
edit: bah. more things not working...
edit 2: updated link
edit 3: updated link again
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edit 5: updated link again
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@cameron I am receiving the message "File is in the owner's Trash"
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thanks for the heads up. i replaced it with an updated one and blanked on the link still being attached to the old one...
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@rogercooper Have you succeeded in downloading the map? I can't seem to for some reason
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did you try clicking on the download icon? top right? i failed entirely to notice it for a while when downloading someone elses map...
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@cameron I can download the files but the engine can't detect them for some reason
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unzip and put the contents in your downloadedMaps folder. i added the date to the zip file because i kept making little fixes...
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Some initial impressions. So it's cool seeing the Martians, and Nemo Pirates get more units (especially the scout, the Martians lacked a cannon fodder unit that they really need). I also find the idea of the minor powers be united to a single faction.
The unit redesigns are cool and the shift in places like North America which didn't felt right in the OG.
The addition of more weird neutrals was also cool and gave the game more flavor.
The tech system is better with capitals giving tech tokens each turn making it feel not just paths that only the wealthier powers can invest in
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SO played a game of Central and Wierd. Will try Entente later so my thoughts
- Nemo Pirate AI even if not building ships is a lot more aggressive and can grow to be a bit of a threat with just their flying units and existing naval ones (this is due to the range the Nautulis have)
- Martian AI is usually strong enough to take Cairo and Damascus but they seem to not be too aggressive besides from that. (They do take most of Central and South America as well but never advance further when I built up an Austrian force)
- US AI sucks and doesn't defend D.C from a turn 3 attack from Havanna against Germany
- Germany can kind of Turn 1 London Lmao. Even Turn 3-4 Russia since they can't build up enough to ignore the buff against the Graf Zepplins
- Austria having Conscripts is a good change and makes me not die to Alliance like I used to
- Commies are a good threat to for Germany not just to loot Russia and leave west. Same with Turkey in the North
- Tokoyo is a bit too weak against Turn 1 Nemo Pirate. Need a few trenches or a maginot
- Nautulis kind of needs a cost nerf to 16-18. A bit too good IMO with their 4 movement. Maybe make Battlecruisers move 4 and Battleships and cruisers move 3 as well.
- The Special neutrals are a cool mechanic and do help add flavour and encourages neutral farming a lot more.
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yeah, it's very much a work in progress - i'm still constantly tinkering.
the AI struggles in general; especially with the more unusual troops. i don't think that it ever uses paratroopers. it doesn't understand the canNotTarget tag and so thinks dabbaba are the best unit ever - i only put the build cap on them to stop the AI building nothing else... it also ignores the special islands - even when i had it play itself for 30 rounds the entente had taken every TT but the special islands.
i've always found that the AI has trouble dealing with water; both defending from and attacking across.
really gonna have to learn about the knew isAI feature i saw referenced somewhere.as far as round one capital capture goes: germany could actually take london and st petersburg on turn one. they can't really hold london and so will lose valuable grafs. i tried to harden them a bit by giving them a maginot and AA. (same with tokyo.) the problem is that germany goes first so the targets can't prepare. this is a human only problem as the AI is incapable of making such attacks as far as i can tell. tokyo is easier to deal with as yo ucan screen the tokyo SZ with the starting destroyers. maybe i should start them in that position to help the AI; although it will most likely just move them anyway...
i listened to an audio dramatization of Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas while working on this mod and the nautilus's top speed is 50 knots or 50 mph (43 knots) depending on the source and that was the prototype built half a century before this game's setting so these ones are probably even faster. either way it's hella faster than any regular ship. and nerfing jules verne is sacrilege and you should wash your mouth out with soap for suggesting such a thing!
the regular ships get to 4 Move with the MarinePropulsion anyway. i always disliked BBs and battlecruisers starting with 4 Move; speed like that needs crazy mad scientist steampunk tech!
