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    Kwaspek104 (Axis) V. VictoryFirst (Allies) Europe - Game 7

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    • kwaspek104K Offline
      kwaspek104
      last edited by

      let me mull this one over

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      • kwaspek104K Offline
        kwaspek104
        last edited by

        @VictoryFirst vf-g5.tsvg

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        • VictoryFirstV Offline
          VictoryFirst
          last edited by

          TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

          Game History

          Round: 5
          
              Actions - Russians
                  Russians takes action: Action USAPays8PUs
                  Action USAPays8PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays8PUs
                  Trigger USAPays8PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -8 PUs; end with 39 PUs
          
              Purchase Units - Russians
                  Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
          
              Non Combat Move - Russians
                  2 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow
                  1 aaGun moved from Turkestan to Moscow
                  1 armour and 1 fighter moved from Karelia to Moscow
                  1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Finland
                  1 armour moved from Finland to Russia
          
              Place Units - Russians
                  8 infantry placed in Moscow
          
              Turn Complete - Russians
                  Russians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          Savegame

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          • VictoryFirstV Offline
            VictoryFirst
            last edited by

            I believe i discovered another bug
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            If I interpret the rules correctly, I should be able to load an AA gun and an infantry in the combat movement phase onto a transport, amphibiously assault with the infantry and then in the NCM unload the AA gun. However the AA gun is unselectable in the combat movement phase. This can be very easily fixed though, and I will do that after our game.
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            • VictoryFirstV Offline
              VictoryFirst
              last edited by

              TripleA Turn Summary: British round 5

              TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

              Game History

              Round: 5
              
                  Purchase Units - British
                      British buy 3 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
              
                  Combat Move - British
                      Turning on Edit Mode
                      EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                      Turning on Edit Mode
                      EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                      Turning on Edit Mode
                      EDIT: Adding units owned by British to North Sea Sea Zone: 1 aaGun
                      EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 aaGun
                      EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                      1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone
                      1 artillery moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone
                      2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone
                      1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                      3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
                      1 bomber moved from Finland to Poland
              
                  Combat - British
                      Battle in Poland
                          British attack with 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                          Germans defend with 2 infantry
                              British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                              Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                              2 infantry owned by the British lost in Poland
                              2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
                          British win, taking Poland from Germans with 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                          Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                          Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
              
                  Non Combat Move - British
                      1 bomber moved from Poland to Moscow
                      1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
                      1 armour moved from Karelia to Moscow
                      1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow
                      5 fighters moved from Finland to Moscow
              
                  Place Units - British
                      3 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom
              
                  Turn Complete - British
                      British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              Germans regular : 1.33
              British regular : 2.00
              

              Savegame

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              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                VictoryFirst
                last edited by

                TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 5

                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                Game History

                Round: 5
                
                    Purchase Units - Americans
                        Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                
                    Combat Move - Americans
                        1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                        2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                              Americans take France from Germans
                
                    Combat - Americans
                
                    Non Combat Move - Americans
                        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone
                        1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                        3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Finland
                        1 bomber and 5 fighters moved from Finland to Moscow
                        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                        1 destroyer moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                        1 destroyer moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                
                    Place Units - Americans
                        2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                        3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States
                
                    Turn Complete - Americans
                        Americans collect 43 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Savegame

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                • kwaspek104K Offline
                  kwaspek104
                  last edited by

                  yes, you interpret the rules correctly. kind of a weird rule, but there ya go lol

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                  • wc_sumptonW Offline
                    wc_sumpton @VictoryFirst
                    last edited by wc_sumpton

                    @victoryfirst said in Kwaspek104 (Axis) V. VictoryFirst (Allies) Europe - Game 7:

                    If I interpret the rules correctly, I should be able to load an AA gun and an infantry in the combat movement phase onto a transport, amphibiously assault with the infantry and then in the NCM unload the AA gun. However the AA gun is unselectable in the combat movement phase. This can be very easily fixed though, and I will do that after our game.

                    Yes and no. The rule that you are talking about distinctively talks about the unloading of transports, and not the loading of transports. An AA gun cannot move during combat movement but can only be loaded during non-combat movement. Thus, a transport, which already has an AA gun loaded from a prior turn, can load an infantry during a combat movement, move with both infantry and AA gun and unload the infantry for the amphibious assault, keeping the AA gun for the non-combat unload into the same territory. But both AA gun and infantry cannot be loaded during the same combat move, since the AA gun cannot move.

                    Cheers...

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                    • kwaspek104K Offline
                      kwaspek104
                      last edited by

                      @VictoryFirst

                      vf-g6.tsvg

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                      • VictoryFirstV Offline
                        VictoryFirst
                        last edited by

                        TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6

                        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                        Game History

                        Round: 6
                        
                            Actions - Russians
                                Russians takes action: Action USAPays7PUs
                                Action USAPays7PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays7PUs
                                Trigger USAPays7PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -7 PUs; end with 38 PUs
                                Russians takes action: Action UKPays1PUs
                                Action UKPays1PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger UKPays1PUs
                                Trigger UKPays1PUs: British met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 28 PUs
                        
                            Purchase Units - Russians
                                Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                        
                            Place Units - Russians
                                5 infantry placed in Moscow
                        
                            Turn Complete - Russians
                                Russians collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs
                        

                        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                        Savegame

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                        • VictoryFirstV Offline
                          VictoryFirst
                          last edited by

                          TripleA Turn Summary: British round 6

                          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                          Game History

                          Round: 6
                          
                              Purchase Units - British
                                  British buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                          
                              Combat Move - British
                                  1 destroyer and 4 transports moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                  1 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia
                                  1 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia
                                  1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Moscow to Turkestan
                                  2 fighters moved from Moscow to Russia
                                  3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                                  2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
                                        British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
                          
                              Combat - British
                                  Battle in Turkestan
                                      British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters
                                      Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                          British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in Turkestan, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                          Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                          1 bomber owned by the British lost in Turkestan
                                          1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkestan
                                      British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                                      Casualties for British: 1 bomber
                                      Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                  Battle in Russia
                                      British attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                                      Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                          British roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                          Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                          1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                                      British win, taking Russia from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                      Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                          
                              Non Combat Move - British
                                  2 fighters moved from Russia to Moscow
                                  3 fighters moved from Turkestan to Moscow
                                  3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                          
                              Place Units - British
                                  2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
                          
                              Turn Complete - British
                                  British collect 29 PUs; end with 33 PUs
                          

                          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                          Germans regular : 0.33
                          British regular : 1.50
                          

                          Savegame

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                          • VictoryFirstV Offline
                            VictoryFirst
                            last edited by

                            TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 6

                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                            Game History

                            Round: 6
                            
                                Purchase Units - Americans
                                    Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Americans
                                    Turning on Edit Mode
                                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Americans
                                    Turning on Edit Mode
                                    EDIT: Changing ownership of Eastern France from Germans to Americans
                                    EDIT: Changing ownership of Vichy France from Germans to Americans
                                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                    3 fighters moved from Finland to Moscow
                                    1 bomber moved from Moscow to France
                                    1 infantry moved from France to Eastern France
                                    1 infantry moved from France to Vichy France
                                    2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                    2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                    2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                                    2 destroyers moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                                    3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                                    3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                    3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                            
                                Place Units - Americans
                                    3 fighters placed in United States
                            
                                Turn Complete - Americans
                                    Americans collect 46 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Savegame

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                            • kwaspek104K Offline
                              kwaspek104
                              last edited by

                              @VictoryFirst

                              Game History

                              Round: 7
                              
                                  Purchase Units - Germans
                                      Germans buy 2 bombers and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                              
                                  Combat Move - Germans
                                      4 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
                                      2 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
                                      2 fighters moved from Belorussia to Russia
                                      1 fighter moved from Germany to Russia
                                      1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Vichy France
                                      1 fighter moved from Germany to Vichy France
                              
                                  Combat - Germans
                                      Battle in Vichy France
                                          Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                                          Americans defend with 1 infantry
                                              Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                              Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Vichy France
                                          Germans win, taking Vichy France from Americans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                          Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                                      Battle in Russia
                                          Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                                          British defend with 2 infantry
                                              Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                              Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the British lost in Russia
                                              Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                              Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the British lost in Russia
                                          Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                          Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - Germans
                                      1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkestan
                                      1 armour moved from Caucasus to Belorussia
                                      1 artillery moved from Iran to Caucasus
                                      3 fighters moved from Russia to Belorussia
                                      1 fighter moved from Vichy France to Germany
                                      1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria
                                      5 armour moved from Poland to East Poland
                                      1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
                                      8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                                      8 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                      2 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                      1 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                      1 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                              
                                  Place Units - Germans
                                      2 bombers and 8 infantry placed in Germany
                              
                                  Turn Complete - Germans
                                      Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
                              

                              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                              Americans regular : -0.33
                              Russians regular : -1.00
                              Germans regular : 0.67
                              

                              vf-g7.tsvg

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                              • kwaspek104K Offline
                                kwaspek104
                                last edited by

                                use this one, I moved the fleet

                                vf-g7.tsvg

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                                • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                  VictoryFirst
                                  last edited by

                                  TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

                                  TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                  Game History

                                  Round: 7
                                  
                                      Actions - Russians
                                          Russians takes action: Action USAPays4PUs
                                          Action USAPays4PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays4PUs
                                          Trigger USAPays4PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                                          Russians takes action: Action UKPays4PUs
                                          Action UKPays4PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger UKPays4PUs
                                          Trigger UKPays4PUs: British met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 29 PUs
                                  
                                      Purchase Units - Russians
                                          Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                  
                                      Combat Move - Russians
                                  
                                      Combat - Russians
                                  
                                      Place Units - Russians
                                          5 infantry placed in Moscow
                                  
                                      Turn Complete - Russians
                                          Russians collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
                                  

                                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                  Savegame

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                                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                    VictoryFirst
                                    last edited by

                                    TripleA Turn Summary: British round 7

                                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                    Game History

                                    Round: 7
                                    
                                        Purchase Units - British
                                            British buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
                                    
                                        Combat Move - British
                                            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from France to Vichy France
                                            1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
                                            4 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                            5 fighters moved from Moscow to Russia
                                            1 armour moved from Moscow to Russia
                                    
                                        Combat - British
                                            Battle in Vichy France
                                                British attack with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
                                                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                                    British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 3 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vichy France
                                                British win, taking Vichy France from Germans with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                            Battle in Russia
                                                British attack with 1 armour and 5 fighters
                                                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                                                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 5 fighters in Russia, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                                                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                    1 armour owned by the British lost in Russia
                                                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                                                British win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                                                Casualties for British: 1 armour
                                                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                                    
                                        Non Combat Move - British
                                            5 fighters moved from Russia to Moscow
                                            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Finland
                                            1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Place Units - British
                                            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - British
                                            British collect 30 PUs; end with 35 PUs
                                    

                                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                    Germans regular : 0.00
                                    British regular : 1.00
                                    

                                    Savegame

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                                    • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                      VictoryFirst
                                      last edited by

                                      TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 7

                                      TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                      Game History

                                      Round: 7
                                      
                                          Purchase Units - Americans
                                              Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 
                                      
                                          Non Combat Move - Americans
                                              3 fighters moved from United States to United Kingdom
                                              2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                                              1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                              2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Vichy France
                                              1 bomber moved from France to Moscow
                                              1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone
                                              2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Bay of Biscay Sea Zone
                                              2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to France
                                              2 destroyers moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                      
                                          Place Units - Americans
                                              3 fighters placed in United States
                                      
                                          Turn Complete - Americans
                                              Americans collect 45 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                                      

                                      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                      Savegame

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                                      • kwaspek104K Offline
                                        kwaspek104
                                        last edited by

                                        @VictoryFirst gg, final battle was 63% favored for Germany, which is pretty good considering all that had happened in this game.

                                        gg.tsvg

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                                        • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                          VictoryFirst
                                          last edited by

                                          @kwaspek104

                                          Lol

                                          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                          Russians regular : 16.17
                                          Germans regular : -5.50
                                          Russians AA : -0.83
                                          
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                                          • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                            VictoryFirst
                                            last edited by

                                            @The_Good_Captain

                                            Not sure how to calculate the net number of pieces the Allies were up in this battle but it's surely is a very high number. Do I have to look at the row for "average units left" or "average units left if X won"?

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