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    Kwaspek104 (Axis) V. VictoryFirst (Allies) Europe - Game 7

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    • VictoryFirstV Offline
      VictoryFirst
      last edited by

      I believe i discovered another bug
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      If I interpret the rules correctly, I should be able to load an AA gun and an infantry in the combat movement phase onto a transport, amphibiously assault with the infantry and then in the NCM unload the AA gun. However the AA gun is unselectable in the combat movement phase. This can be very easily fixed though, and I will do that after our game.
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      • VictoryFirstV Offline
        VictoryFirst
        last edited by

        TripleA Turn Summary: British round 5

        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

        Game History

        Round: 5
        
            Purchase Units - British
                British buy 3 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        
            Combat Move - British
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to North Sea Sea Zone: 1 aaGun
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 aaGun
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone
                2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone
                1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
                1 bomber moved from Finland to Poland
        
            Combat - British
                Battle in Poland
                    British attack with 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                    Germans defend with 2 infantry
                        British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                        British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                        Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                        2 infantry owned by the British lost in Poland
                        2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
                    British win, taking Poland from Germans with 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        
            Non Combat Move - British
                1 bomber moved from Poland to Moscow
                1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
                1 armour moved from Karelia to Moscow
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow
                5 fighters moved from Finland to Moscow
        
            Place Units - British
                3 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom
        
            Turn Complete - British
                British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
        

        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

        Germans regular : 1.33
        British regular : 2.00
        

        Savegame

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        • VictoryFirstV Offline
          VictoryFirst
          last edited by

          TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 5

          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

          Game History

          Round: 5
          
              Purchase Units - Americans
                  Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
          
              Combat Move - Americans
                  1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                  2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                  2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                        Americans take France from Germans
          
              Combat - Americans
          
              Non Combat Move - Americans
                  2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                  2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone
                  1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                  2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                  3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Finland
                  1 bomber and 5 fighters moved from Finland to Moscow
                  2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                  1 destroyer moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                  1 destroyer moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
          
              Place Units - Americans
                  2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                  3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States
          
              Turn Complete - Americans
                  Americans collect 43 PUs; end with 45 PUs
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          Savegame

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          • kwaspek104K Offline
            kwaspek104
            last edited by

            yes, you interpret the rules correctly. kind of a weird rule, but there ya go lol

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            • wc_sumptonW Offline
              wc_sumpton @VictoryFirst
              last edited by wc_sumpton

              @victoryfirst said in Kwaspek104 (Axis) V. VictoryFirst (Allies) Europe - Game 7:

              If I interpret the rules correctly, I should be able to load an AA gun and an infantry in the combat movement phase onto a transport, amphibiously assault with the infantry and then in the NCM unload the AA gun. However the AA gun is unselectable in the combat movement phase. This can be very easily fixed though, and I will do that after our game.

              Yes and no. The rule that you are talking about distinctively talks about the unloading of transports, and not the loading of transports. An AA gun cannot move during combat movement but can only be loaded during non-combat movement. Thus, a transport, which already has an AA gun loaded from a prior turn, can load an infantry during a combat movement, move with both infantry and AA gun and unload the infantry for the amphibious assault, keeping the AA gun for the non-combat unload into the same territory. But both AA gun and infantry cannot be loaded during the same combat move, since the AA gun cannot move.

              Cheers...

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              • kwaspek104K Offline
                kwaspek104
                last edited by

                @VictoryFirst

                vf-g6.tsvg

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                • VictoryFirstV Offline
                  VictoryFirst
                  last edited by

                  TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6

                  TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                  Game History

                  Round: 6
                  
                      Actions - Russians
                          Russians takes action: Action USAPays7PUs
                          Action USAPays7PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays7PUs
                          Trigger USAPays7PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -7 PUs; end with 38 PUs
                          Russians takes action: Action UKPays1PUs
                          Action UKPays1PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger UKPays1PUs
                          Trigger UKPays1PUs: British met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 28 PUs
                  
                      Purchase Units - Russians
                          Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                  
                      Place Units - Russians
                          5 infantry placed in Moscow
                  
                      Turn Complete - Russians
                          Russians collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs
                  

                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                  Savegame

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                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                    VictoryFirst
                    last edited by

                    TripleA Turn Summary: British round 6

                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                    Game History

                    Round: 6
                    
                        Purchase Units - British
                            British buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                    
                        Combat Move - British
                            1 destroyer and 4 transports moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia
                            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia
                            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Moscow to Turkestan
                            2 fighters moved from Moscow to Russia
                            3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                            2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
                                  British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
                    
                        Combat - British
                            Battle in Turkestan
                                British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters
                                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                    British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in Turkestan, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 bomber owned by the British lost in Turkestan
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkestan
                                British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                                Casualties for British: 1 bomber
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Russia
                                British attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                                British win, taking Russia from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    
                        Non Combat Move - British
                            2 fighters moved from Russia to Moscow
                            3 fighters moved from Turkestan to Moscow
                            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                    
                        Place Units - British
                            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
                    
                        Turn Complete - British
                            British collect 29 PUs; end with 33 PUs
                    

                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                    Germans regular : 0.33
                    British regular : 1.50
                    

                    Savegame

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                    • VictoryFirstV Offline
                      VictoryFirst
                      last edited by

                      TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 6

                      TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                      Game History

                      Round: 6
                      
                          Purchase Units - Americans
                              Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                      
                          Combat Move - Americans
                              Turning on Edit Mode
                              EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                      
                          Non Combat Move - Americans
                              Turning on Edit Mode
                              EDIT: Changing ownership of Eastern France from Germans to Americans
                              EDIT: Changing ownership of Vichy France from Germans to Americans
                              EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                              3 fighters moved from Finland to Moscow
                              1 bomber moved from Moscow to France
                              1 infantry moved from France to Eastern France
                              1 infantry moved from France to Vichy France
                              2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                              2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                              2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                              2 destroyers moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
                              3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
                              3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                              3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                      
                          Place Units - Americans
                              3 fighters placed in United States
                      
                          Turn Complete - Americans
                              Americans collect 46 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                      

                      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                      Savegame

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                      • kwaspek104K Offline
                        kwaspek104
                        last edited by

                        @VictoryFirst

                        Game History

                        Round: 7
                        
                            Purchase Units - Germans
                                Germans buy 2 bombers and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                        
                            Combat Move - Germans
                                4 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
                                2 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
                                2 fighters moved from Belorussia to Russia
                                1 fighter moved from Germany to Russia
                                1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Vichy France
                                1 fighter moved from Germany to Vichy France
                        
                            Combat - Germans
                                Battle in Vichy France
                                    Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                                    Americans defend with 1 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                        Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Vichy France
                                    Germans win, taking Vichy France from Americans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                    Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                                Battle in Russia
                                    Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                                    British defend with 2 infantry
                                        Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the British lost in Russia
                                        Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                                        Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                        1 infantry owned by the British lost in Russia
                                    Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                        
                            Non Combat Move - Germans
                                1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkestan
                                1 armour moved from Caucasus to Belorussia
                                1 artillery moved from Iran to Caucasus
                                3 fighters moved from Russia to Belorussia
                                1 fighter moved from Vichy France to Germany
                                1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria
                                5 armour moved from Poland to East Poland
                                1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
                                8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
                                8 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                2 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                1 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                                1 armour moved from Belorussia to East Poland
                        
                            Place Units - Germans
                                2 bombers and 8 infantry placed in Germany
                        
                            Turn Complete - Germans
                                Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
                        

                        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                        Americans regular : -0.33
                        Russians regular : -1.00
                        Germans regular : 0.67
                        

                        vf-g7.tsvg

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                        • kwaspek104K Offline
                          kwaspek104
                          last edited by

                          use this one, I moved the fleet

                          vf-g7.tsvg

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                          • VictoryFirstV Offline
                            VictoryFirst
                            last edited by

                            TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                            Game History

                            Round: 7
                            
                                Actions - Russians
                                    Russians takes action: Action USAPays4PUs
                                    Action USAPays4PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays4PUs
                                    Trigger USAPays4PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                                    Russians takes action: Action UKPays4PUs
                                    Action UKPays4PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger UKPays4PUs
                                    Trigger UKPays4PUs: British met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 29 PUs
                            
                                Purchase Units - Russians
                                    Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                            
                                Combat Move - Russians
                            
                                Combat - Russians
                            
                                Place Units - Russians
                                    5 infantry placed in Moscow
                            
                                Turn Complete - Russians
                                    Russians collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Savegame

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                            • VictoryFirstV Offline
                              VictoryFirst
                              last edited by

                              TripleA Turn Summary: British round 7

                              TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                              Game History

                              Round: 7
                              
                                  Purchase Units - British
                                      British buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
                              
                                  Combat Move - British
                                      3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from France to Vichy France
                                      1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
                                      4 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                      5 fighters moved from Moscow to Russia
                                      1 armour moved from Moscow to Russia
                              
                                  Combat - British
                                      Battle in Vichy France
                                          British attack with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
                                          Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                              British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 3 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                              Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vichy France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vichy France
                                          British win, taking Vichy France from Germans with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                          Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                      Battle in Russia
                                          British attack with 1 armour and 5 fighters
                                          Germans defend with 2 infantry
                                              British roll dice for 1 armour and 5 fighters in Russia, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                                              Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                              1 armour owned by the British lost in Russia
                                              2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                                          British win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                                          Casualties for British: 1 armour
                                          Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - British
                                      5 fighters moved from Russia to Moscow
                                      2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Finland
                                      1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                              
                                  Place Units - British
                                      2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
                              
                                  Turn Complete - British
                                      British collect 30 PUs; end with 35 PUs
                              

                              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                              Germans regular : 0.00
                              British regular : 1.00
                              

                              Savegame

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                              • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                VictoryFirst
                                last edited by

                                TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 7

                                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

                                Game History

                                Round: 7
                                
                                    Purchase Units - Americans
                                        Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 
                                
                                    Non Combat Move - Americans
                                        3 fighters moved from United States to United Kingdom
                                        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
                                        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Vichy France
                                        1 bomber moved from France to Moscow
                                        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone
                                        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Bay of Biscay Sea Zone
                                        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to France
                                        2 destroyers moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                                
                                    Place Units - Americans
                                        3 fighters placed in United States
                                
                                    Turn Complete - Americans
                                        Americans collect 45 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                                

                                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                Savegame

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                                • kwaspek104K Offline
                                  kwaspek104
                                  last edited by

                                  @VictoryFirst gg, final battle was 63% favored for Germany, which is pretty good considering all that had happened in this game.

                                  gg.tsvg

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                                  • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                    VictoryFirst
                                    last edited by

                                    @kwaspek104

                                    Lol

                                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                    Russians regular : 16.17
                                    Germans regular : -5.50
                                    Russians AA : -0.83
                                    
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                                    • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                      VictoryFirst
                                      last edited by

                                      @The_Good_Captain

                                      Not sure how to calculate the net number of pieces the Allies were up in this battle but it's surely is a very high number. Do I have to look at the row for "average units left" or "average units left if X won"?

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                                      • VictoryFirstV Offline
                                        VictoryFirst
                                        last edited by

                                        @kwaspek104

                                        GG, I was very scared of losing the Moscow battle so I am glad the Allies came out on top, even though you had a slight advantage. Go again?

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                                        • kwaspek104K Offline
                                          kwaspek104
                                          last edited by

                                          Yup, I'll take Germany again because I still haven't won as the Axis against you, methinks lol.

                                          This time, 4 inf in Poland.

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                                            VictoryFirst @kwaspek104
                                            last edited by VictoryFirst

                                            @kwaspek104

                                            I thought you won one but I looked up and that was an Allied win lol.

                                            I take 4 inf Bessarabia. Looks like that bid is the most challenging for the Germans for some reason.

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