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@crockett36 Trout, I was thinking about doing a round robin attack on that fortress. Break the back of the offensive. Get the planes to Moscow after.
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Looking for advice: I'm thinking that the purchase of a para, 3 guards, 1 elite and 2 infantry are the best bang for my buck.
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@crockett36 I don't have a way to calculate how to deal with the German subs. Or a combined Ge air force sub attack. I don't know how to defend or attack it except the impossible. Very distasteful.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 18
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 18 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 elite, 3 guard_infantrys, 2 infantry and 1 russian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 AirLendLease; 0 TankLendLease; Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Timguska 1 1stTankArmy, 1 3rdCorps, 3 armour, 1 fighter and 1 russian_para moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Russia to Rostov 5 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 Tank_General3 moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 5 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 1 elite moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Russia to SamaraCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 18
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 18 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 elite, 3 guard_infantrys, 2 infantry and 1 russian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 AirLendLease; 0 TankLendLease; Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Timguska 1 1stTankArmy, 1 3rdCorps, 3 armour, 1 fighter and 1 russian_para moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Russia to Rostov 5 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 Tank_General3 moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 5 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 1 elite moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara Combat - Russians Russians creates battle in territory 113 Sea Zone Battle in Tambov Russians attack with 5 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tambov 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov Russians win, taking Tambov from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 3 armour Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 3 armour in Archangel, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 3 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Smolensk Russians attack with 1 artillery, 3 guard_infantrys and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 guard_infantrys and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 guard_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Samara Russians attack with 1 elite and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 waffen_infantry Russians roll dice for 1 elite and 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 waffen_infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara 1 waffen_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara Russians win, taking Samara from Germans with 1 elite and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 waffen_infantry Battle in Vologda Russians attack with 5 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 1.67 Russians regular : 2.50 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 18
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 18 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 elite, 3 guard_infantrys, 2 infantry and 1 russian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 AirLendLease; 0 TankLendLease; Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Timguska 1 1stTankArmy, 1 3rdCorps, 3 armour, 1 fighter and 1 russian_para moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Russia to Rostov 5 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 Tank_General3 moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 5 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 1 elite moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara Combat - Russians Russians creates battle in territory 113 Sea Zone Battle in Tambov Russians attack with 5 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tambov 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov Russians win, taking Tambov from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 3 armour Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 3 armour in Archangel, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 3 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Smolensk Russians attack with 1 artillery, 3 guard_infantrys and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 guard_infantrys and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 guard_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Samara Russians attack with 1 elite and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 waffen_infantry Russians roll dice for 1 elite and 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 waffen_infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara 1 waffen_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara Russians win, taking Samara from Germans with 1 elite and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 waffen_infantry Battle in Vologda Russians attack with 5 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Bryansk Russians attack with 1 Tank_General3 and 5 armour Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 Tank_General3 and 5 armour in Bryansk, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits 3 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk Russians win, taking Bryansk from Germans with 1 Tank_General3 and 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 3 armour Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 3.17 Russians regular : 1.50 -
@crockett36 I've gone as far as I am able. Someone else will have to fight the rest of the Rostov battle. I would love for the planes to make it back to Moscow, but want to kill as many as possible.
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@crockett36 So no retreat except if by happenstance the two planes are all the attackers left.
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I opened up the file to see what I could do and it immediately went into battle. That's a problem.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 18
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 18 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 elite, 3 guard_infantrys, 2 infantry and 1 russian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 AirLendLease; 0 TankLendLease; Combat Move - Russians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 armour moved from Urals to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Timguska 1 1stTankArmy, 1 3rdCorps, 3 armour, 1 fighter and 1 russian_para moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Russia to Rostov 5 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 Tank_General3 moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 5 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 1 elite moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Russia to SamaraCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@crockett36 Here's the autosave precombat.
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Yea, so for Rostov, you need to move the tokens to their Boxes and then the dudes in the Boxes to Rostov in CM.
You have to move All defenders before any attackers or triplea won't count any defenders moved after attackers into the TTy during the battle, even though they will show up on the board.
So battle calc showing 10 % chance of victory if his AA doesn't hit. Leaves an average of 5 defenders, so basically his Air, although he may hang on to his PG instead of a Ftr.
Obviously, that's with average dice
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I removed the Air Trprts from the equation as they don't have a hp. Have to PE not to take them.
So pretty dicey. I can see why you'd do it. The Yanks and Blokes ought to be able to clean up Caucasus, which will block him if things go poorly in Rostov.
It'll be Imperative to get Tambov and Bryansk. Bryansk be a little spendy, as you'll end up losing that Tank Army but it has to be done or go full turtle and then he'll bypass and breakout most likely.
Killing the SS Inf another good kill in Samara. I'm not too sure on ARCH and Vologda. Those Tanks are pretty valuable. especially as you're gonna lose both Tank Armies most likely. Before your next turn anyway.
The Tommie Tank and a Bmbr should hopefully take Vologda. I didn't understand the Dzavhan to Timguska edit move. I'd leave him as is as he's about the only unit you can Rail. None of Moscow can as they start surrounded.
For a buy, 2 Grds and a Elite Inf would be your max but I'd suggest Total War Tanks and save a buck. You're gonna need a TG and a FlakTower next turn and that's 20 bucks.
Even if you save the 3 tanks in Urals, you only get 1 more for Urals leaving you a Tank light for the Tank Army.
Probably gonna have to think about getting some Allied Air to Moscow pretty soon. You'll have at least 2 turns before he can strike still.
Anyway, that's what I'm seeing. I have one more outdoor chore before dark. I'll be on for a bit then go tackle it and back on after that.
Lastly, when fighting the Bryansk battle, if your Tank Army doesn't kill all his dudes first rd of battle and he gets a hit, you have to take the TG as a hit. Otherwise he'll keep giving the bonus.
You can swap him back in after battle if needed.
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@beelee I've already done every battle on the forum for real except Rostov.
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@crockett36 All were successful. I am trying to bring this game to a head. If I lose, I lose. But I won them all.
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yes I saw that however the Rostov battle needs to be redone. We can fight it with dicebot if you want and edit accordingly
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@beelee As I explained I didn't want to do any dice rolling in Rostov.
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@crockett36 it auto did that and i knew there was no way i could do it. someone else must do it. from the beginning.
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I will roll Rostov in dicebot. I won't roll for the AA as they already missed.
I have to tend to this chore about and hour
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@beelee appreciate it
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