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    #1: Trout + Mussolini Pizza Emperor (Axis) vs. VictoryFirst (Allies) | G40 House Rules Expansion by The Captain

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      beelee
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      @Trout

      While I don't normally buy them, I wouldn't say they're worthless. If you're trying to attrit JPN by Bombarding them every turn after you control 6 SZ, that won't quite work.

      But JPN will have to spend 6 bucks a turn with only a 1 in 3 chance to get a hit, remember CV gets hit first then BB, so a good idea to have an empty CV or two to soak hits.

      Anyway, control of 6 SZ will be doing massive convoy damage. JPN rarely falls or Moscow either. Usually Economic Victory happens first.

      Massive Hvy Bmbrs and a Huge Fleet, with a backup ANZAC Fleet for the knockout blow, their BBs will bombard, might do the trick.

      If Allies are threatening Tokyo, ANZC should be making good coin by then

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        @victoryfirst Game History

        Round: 2
        
            Research Technology - Germans
        
            Purchase Units - Germans
                Note to players Germans: It is Late 1940 and Waffen SS Army Units have been Organized into Armies.          They are Commanded by a Oberst Gruppenfuhrer. You may have up to 4 Waffen Armies at any one time.
                Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1940 and Waffen Pioneers are Now Available.<br><br><img src="WaffenPioneer.png"/><br><br><br />Refer to Game Notes for Usage.<b></body>
                Note to players Germans: It is Late 1940 and Wehrmacht and Waffen Armies have been Organized into Army Groups.       You may have up to 3 Army Groups. Only 1 may be active per Territory.
                Note to players Germans: It is Late 1940 and Wehrmacht Panzer Units have been Organized into Armies. They are Commanded by a Panzer General.      They may also be Formed into Desert Armies. You may only have up to 3....
                Note to players Germans: It is Late 1940 and the Major Powers of Germany, Russia, Britain and Italy  have Approved FlakTowers to Repeal Possible Air Attack on Their Capitals.         Refer to Game Notes for Usage.
                Trigger FlakTower: buyFlakTower added to productionGermans
                Trigger FlakTower: buyFlakTower added to productionRussians
                Trigger FlakTower: buyFlakTower added to productionBritish
                Trigger FlakTower: buyFlakTower added to productionItalians
                Trigger FlakTower: buyRepair_FlakTower added to productionGermans
                Trigger FlakTower: buyRepair_FlakTower added to productionRussians
                Trigger FlakTower: buyRepair_FlakTower added to productionBritish
                Trigger FlakTower: buyRepair_FlakTower added to productionItalians
                Trigger WaffenPioneer: buyWaffenPioneer added to productionGermans
                Trigger Waffen SS Oberst: buyWaffen_Oberst added to productionGermans
                Trigger Army Group: buyArmy_Group added to productionGermans
                Trigger PanzerGeneral: buyPanzer_General added to productionGermans
                triggerAttachmenLate1940Red: has removed 1 Late1940 owned by Changer in Late 1940
                triggerAttachmenEarly1940: has removed 1 Early1940_red owned by Changer in Early 1940
                triggerAttachmenLate1940Red: Changer has 1 Late1940_red placed in Late 1940
                triggerAttachmenEarly1940: Changer has 1 Early1940 placed in Early 1940
                Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                Germans buy 5 GermanUBoats, 2 German_Engineers, 8 german_paras and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
        
            Combat Move - Germans
                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany
                1 battleship moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 GermanUBoat moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
                3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
                5 GermanUBoats, 2 Wolfpacks and 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
                4 fighters moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
                2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 97 Sea Zone
        
            Combat - Germans
                Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                Battle in Gibraltar
                Battle in Greece
                    Germans attack with 3 armour and 5 infantry
                    Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers
                    British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 uk_fighter
                    Germans win with 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                    Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 uk_fighter
        
            Non Combat Move - Germans
                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Poland
                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Romania
                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                2 bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                4 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                4 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                9 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
                2 artilleries moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
                5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
                1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
                1 artillery moved from Germany to Poland
                1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to France
                1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
                2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Germany
                2 Waffen_Artys moved from France to Germany
                4 armour moved from France to Germany
                6 waffen_infantrys moved from France to Germany
                2 armour moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
                1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
                1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 G_Rail and 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Poland
                1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 G_Rail and 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Romania
        
            Place Units - Germans
                2 German_Engineers and 8 german_paras placed in Germany
                3 infantry placed in France
                3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                3 GermanUBoats placed in 93 Sea Zone
                2 GermanUBoats placed in 112 Sea Zone
        
            Turn Complete - Germans
                Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 60 PUs
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
                Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
        

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          Trout @VictoryFirst
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          @victoryfirst Okay, saying they completely are worthless is not accurate, agreed. For some reason, we had gotten the idea that ships could choose to participate in sea battle or shore bombard, not both. Which made them more flexible in their uses. But I now see clearly that was not the rule all along. And now I understand why there were some forum comments from time to time about how difficult it is to invade Japan outright. Regardless, really enjoy playing both of you and thanks for being patient with these rules issues plus the Triple A learning curve.

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            VictoryFirst @Trout
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            @trout In HBG's Global War 1936, a massive A&A style game designed by a game company, you can divide up your fleet in a screening force and a moving force. If there is a blocker somewhere you can assign for example two ships to attack that blocker, and the rest of your fleet can then move through if succesful. I think that's a very fun rule and it more realistically portrays naval war. There should also be something like this with naval bombardment. Not the entire fleet will go after the lone escort, just a couple ships. The rest is then free to bombard.

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              TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

              TripleA Turn Summary for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes

              Game History

              Round: 2
              
                  Purchase Units - Russians
                      Note to players Russians: It is Late 1940 and the Red Army has begun Organizing Army Groups. You may have up to 2 Army Groups. Only 1 may be active per Territory.  
                      Trigger Army GroupUSSR: buyArmy_Group added to productionRussians
                      Russians buy 1 elite and 4 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 
              
                  Politics - Russians
                      Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                          Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                          Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                          Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                          Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
              
                  Combat Move - Russians
                      Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
                      1 fighter moved from Russia to Yunnan
                      2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Yunnan
                      2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
                      4 russian_paras moved from Russia to Sikang
              
                  Combat - Russians
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
              
                  Non Combat Move - Russians
                      Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                      Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Russia
                      1 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
                      1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Russia to Kazakhstan
                      1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk
                      2 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
                      2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
                      2 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Belarus
              
                  Place Units - Russians
                      1 elite and 4 fighters placed in Russia
              
                  Turn Complete - Russians
                      Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              Savegame

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                Trout @VictoryFirst
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                @victoryfirst Agree completely. I think Captain is a fan of adding new units but not changing OOB rules. But to me, this is the biggest one that needs to be re-thought if there was a review of OOB rules done. I used to play YG's House Rules version and I think that's where I got the idea of the shore bombardment vs. sea battle and then when I switched to Captain's HRE, I didn't realize that the OOB rule was different. Anywho I will adjust fire and move forward. That's the old military training kicking in

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                  Trout @VictoryFirst
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                  @victoryfirst Game History

                  Round: 2
                  
                      Purchase Units - Japanese
                          Japanese buy 4 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
                  
                      Combat Move - Japanese
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu
                          Trigger JapanDOW OnUSAorUK: Americans has 6 infantry and 2 usa_fighters placed in Western United States
                          1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
                          1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
                          1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
                          1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
                          1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
                          1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                          1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                          1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
                          1 artillery moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
                          1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
                          1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
                          1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                          1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                          1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
                          1 artillery moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
                          1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
                          1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                                Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
                          1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                                Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
                          1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                          2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                          1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                          1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                          1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                          1 Japan_destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                  
                      Combat - Japanese
                          Battle in Kwangtung
                              Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                              British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                              Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from British with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                              Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                              Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                          Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                              Japanese attack with 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                              British defend with 1 destroyer
                              Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                              Japanese win, taking 36 Sea Zone from British with 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                              Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                          Battle in Amur
                              Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry
                              Russians defend with 1 infantry
                              Japanese win, taking Amur from Russians with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                              Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Russians and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Americans and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for British and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for French and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Neutral_Allies and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians
                          Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Olgiy
                          Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Dzavhan
                          Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Tsagaan Olom
                          Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Central Mongolia
                          Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Buyant-Uhaa
                          Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Ulaanbaatar
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Olgiy
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Dzavhan
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Tsagaan Olom
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Central Mongolia
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Buyant-Uhaa
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Ulaanbaatar
                  
                      Non Combat Move - Japanese
                          Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Hunan
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: has removed 2 infantry owned by Russians in Olgiy
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: has removed 1 infantry owned by Russians in Ulaanbaatar
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: has removed 2 infantry owned by Russians in Buyant-Uhaa
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: has removed 1 infantry owned by Russians in Dzavhan
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: Russians has 2 infantry placed in Olgiy
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: Russians has 1 infantry placed in Ulaanbaatar
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: Russians has 2 infantry placed in Buyant-Uhaa
                          Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 3: Russians has 1 infantry placed in Dzavhan
                          2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
                          2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
                          1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Hunan
                          1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
                          1 J_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Hunan
                          1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
                          1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Hunan
                          1 artillery moved from Chahar to Anhwe
                          3 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                          1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
                          1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
                          1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
                          1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                          1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                          1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to Jehol
                          1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to Jehol
                          1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                          1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                          1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                          1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                          1 fighter moved from Shantung to Hunan
                          1 fighter moved from Shantung to Hunan
                          1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                  
                      Place Units - Japanese
                          1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
                          2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Shantung
                          2 armour and 1 artillery placed in Kiangsu
                          4 infantry placed in Japan
                  
                      Turn Complete - Japanese
                          Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 37 PUs
                          Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                          Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 55 PUs
                  

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                    Trout @VictoryFirst
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                    @victoryfirst Hey VF. The TripleA engine activated Mongolia as Soviet so do you know how we can edit that out? HRE doesn't use the Mongolia activation when attacking next to its border as far as I know. I asked Captain for clarification this a couple of months ago and he confirmed that HRE's USSR-Japan Treaty conditions apply and not the OOB conditions.

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                      Trout @VictoryFirst
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                      @victoryfirst Also why is TripleA calling up the National Guard? Believe we need to edit that also.

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                        Trout @Trout
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                        @trout I keep forgetting to build elite infantries for Tojo 😠

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                          beelee @Trout
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                          @trout said in #1: Trout + Mussolini Pizza Emperor (Axis) vs. VictoryFirst (Allies) | G40 House Rules Expansion by The Captain:

                          HRE doesn't use the Mongolia activation when attacking next to its border

                          Hi Trout

                          This is only After Turn 2. Not until the NAP goes into affect does the Mongols stay Neutral. I did run across an issue late game a few games ago where they changed but I think it's fixed. Just didn't test heavily.

                          But yea, if needed, just use edit.

                          Also, sometimes the Natl Grd fires off, you have to remove them with edit . I've tried to get that to work correctly and for the most part it does but relationships are one of the more complex things in the xml, so just need to use edit when they place incorrectly.

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                            Trout @beelee
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                            @beelee okay- I may have screwed up the game early again from a rules issue then. So Soviets declared war on R2 but didn’t attack anywhere. Then on J2, I attacked Amur. So in that situation, Mongols join the Allies?

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                              beelee @Trout
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                              @trout

                              Yes I believe that is correct. Same as OOB rules

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                                beelee @Trout
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                                @trout

                                You may want to adjust your turn. That's a big impact. I haven't looked at your save yet

                                @Trout
                                just checked out your game. So yea the Mongols fired of correctly and the Natl Grd incorrectly.

                                I would just redo your turn. Buy the Elite, don't attack Amur. The other two battles look like easy wins, so reroll and edit results to match 1st battle.

                                Natl Grd remove with edit. You'll notice JPN still got it's FIC bonus

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                                  Trout @beelee
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                                  @beelee Sounds good- I will do that

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                                    VictoryFirst @Trout
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                                      beelee @Trout
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                                      @trout

                                      You up early 🙂

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                                        @victoryfirst Game History

                                        Round: 2
                                        
                                            Purchase Units - Japanese
                                                Japanese buy 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 elite, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
                                        
                                            Combat Move - Japanese
                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu
                                                Trigger JapanDOW OnUSAorUK: Americans has 6 infantry and 2 usa_fighters placed in Western United States
                                                1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                                                      Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
                                                1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                                                      Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
                                                1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                                                      Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
                                                1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
                                                1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                                1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                                                1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                                                1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                                                1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                                                1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                                                1 Japan_destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                                1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
                                                1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
                                                1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
                                                1 artillery moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
                                                1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
                                                1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                                                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                                                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                                                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Kwangtung
                                                1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                                                1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                        
                                            Combat - Japanese
                                                Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                                                    Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                                                    British defend with 1 destroyer
                                                    Japanese win, taking 36 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                                                    Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                                                Battle in Kwangtung
                                                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                                                    British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                                                    Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                                                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                                                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                                                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                                        
                                            Non Combat Move - Japanese
                                                Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                                                Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Hunan
                                                1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                                1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                                1 bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Jehol
                                                4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
                                                1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                                                1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Jehol
                                                1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Hunan
                                                3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
                                                1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                                                1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                                                1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Hainan
                                                1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
                                                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Hunan
                                                1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                                1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                                1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
                                                1 J_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Hunan
                                                2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
                                                1 armour moved from Korea to Jehol
                                                1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
                                                1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
                                                1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
                                                1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
                                                1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Hunan
                                                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Hunan
                                                1 artillery moved from Chahar to Anhwe
                                                1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                                                1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                                        
                                            Place Units - Japanese
                                                2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu
                                                Japanese undo move 1.
                                                2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu
                                                2 armour and 1 artillery placed in Shantung
                                                1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                                1 artillery, 1 elite and 2 infantry placed in Japan
                                        
                                            Turn Complete - Japanese
                                                Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs
                                                Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                                                Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 54 PUs
                                        

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                                            TripleA Turn Summary: British round 2

                                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes

                                            Game History

                                            Round: 2
                                            
                                                Purchase Units - Americans
                                                    Americans buy 1 Heavy_BB, 1 carrier and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 16 PUs; 
                                            
                                                Combat Move - Americans
                                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States
                                            
                                                Combat - Americans
                                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                                            
                                                Non Combat Move - Americans
                                                    Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 6 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States
                                                    1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                                    1 usa_fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
                                                    2 carriers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                                    1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                                    2 transports moved from 8 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                                            
                                                Place Units - Americans
                                                    1 Heavy_BB, 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                            
                                                Turn Complete - Americans
                                                    Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 68 PUs
                                            
                                                Purchase Units - Chinese
                                                    Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
                                                    Chinese buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                            
                                                Combat Move - Chinese
                                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceChinese: Chinese has 2 Rails placed in Kansu
                                                    1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
                                                          Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
                                                    1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
                                                    1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
                                            
                                                Combat - Chinese
                                                    Battle in Kweichow
                                                        Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                                                        Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                                                            Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                            1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow
                                                        1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated
                                                        Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                                                        Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                                            
                                                Non Combat Move - Chinese
                                                    Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveChinese: has removed 2 Rails owned by Chinese in Kansu
                                                    1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
                                            
                                                Place Units - Chinese
                                                    6 infantry placed in Yunnan
                                            
                                                Turn Complete - Chinese
                                                    Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs
                                                    Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 13 PUs
                                                    Objective Advanced Production 1 Infantry: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs
                                            
                                                Purchase Units - British
                                                    Note to players British: It is Late 1940 and the British Army has Formed a Tank Army.     They are Commanded by a Tank General.  You may only have 1 Tank Army at any one time.
                                                    Trigger UKTankGeneral: buyUK_TankGeneral added to productionBritish
                                                    British buy 1 demo_airfield, 5 infantry, 3 uk_armours, 2 uk_fighters and 3 uk_paras; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 NavyLendLease; 
                                            
                                                Combat Move - British
                                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa
                                                    1 bomber moved from Malta to Kenya
                                                    1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Kenya
                                                    1 mech_infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from Egypt to Kenya
                                                    1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
                                                    2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
                                            
                                                Combat - British
                                                    Battle in Kweichow
                                                        British attack with 1 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
                                                        Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                                                            British roll dice for 1 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                                                            Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                            1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
                                                        British win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                        Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                                                    Battle in Kenya
                                                        British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 uk_armour
                                                        Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                                            British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 uk_armour in Kenya, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                                                            Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                            2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya
                                                            British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 mech_infantry and 1 uk_armour in Kenya, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                                                            Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kenya, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                            1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya
                                                            1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya
                                                            British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 uk_armour in Kenya, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                                                            Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kenya, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                            1 artillery owned by the British lost in Kenya
                                                            1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya
                                                            British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 uk_armour in Kenya, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                                                            Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Kenya, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                            1 uk_armour owned by the British lost in Kenya
                                                            1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Kenya
                                                        British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                                                        Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 uk_armour
                                                        Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                                            
                                                Non Combat Move - British
                                                    Turning on Edit Mode
                                                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Union of South Africa
                                                    1 bomber moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                                                    1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                                                    1 artillery moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
                                                    1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                                    1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
                                                          British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
                                                    1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
                                                    1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                                    2 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
                                                    2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                                                    2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                                                    1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                                    3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
                                                    EDIT: 2 infantry moved from India to Yunnan
                                                    2 infantry moved from India to Burma
                                                    2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
                                                    2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Egypt
                                                    2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
                                                    1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 70 Sea Zone
                                                    1 infantry, 1 transport and 1 uk_armour moved from 89 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
                                                    1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from 106 Sea Zone to Quebec
                                            
                                                Place Units - British
                                                    Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone
                                                    Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                                                    Units in India being upgraded or consumed: 1 airfield
                                                    1 demo_airfield placed in India
                                                    Turning on Edit Mode
                                                    EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 demo_airfield
                                                    EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 airfield
                                                    EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Malaya: 1 harbour
                                                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                    5 infantry placed in India
                                                    3 uk_armours placed in Egypt
                                                    2 uk_fighters and 3 uk_paras placed in United Kingdom
                                            
                                                Turn Complete - British
                                                    British collect 47 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                                                    Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 54 PUs
                                            

                                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                            Chinese regular : -0,67
                                            Italians regular : 2,00
                                            Japanese regular : 0,33
                                            British regular : -4,50
                                            

                                            Savegame

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