EXP Game 1 Trout vs Johnny Cat
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@johnnycat Glad you got there okay. Yes, enjoy the fried scorpions and all of that other wonderful cuisine that you can't get here in USA
You are correct. I missed that you had posted R3. Did J3 now. Decided to stay at peace with the USA. If I promise to not attack Hawaii and just stomp on Australia and other places can we agree to remain at peace? You are from Cali so I assume you are pro-peace yes??? I can even agree to send FDR a daily supply of sushi and green tea for him and his dear Eleanor. See how gracious our Emperor is
Game HistoryRound: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 Heavy_BB, 1 Japan_destroyer, 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu Trigger JapanDOW OnUSAorUK: Americans has 6 infantry and 2 usa_fighters placed in Western United States 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 46 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from British 2 armour moved from Shantung to Kweichow 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 2 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Jehol to Kweichow 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Shensi 2 fighters moved from Hunan to Shensi 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes Combat - Japanese Battle in 46 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 transport Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Java Battle in Celebes Battle in Malaya Battle in Kweichow Japanese attack with 5 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese win, taking Java from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Malaya from British, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 5 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from British with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Shensi Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Hopei Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Yunnan 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan 1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Shantung 1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Hopei 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 elite moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 2 fighters moved from Shensi to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Hopei 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Hopei 3 fighters moved from Kwangtung to Hopei 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hopei 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 Heavy_BB and 1 Japan_destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Shantung 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 47 PUs; end with 49 PUs Trigger Japanese Controls Celebes Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 50 PUs Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs -
@beelee Naval Mines (NM) Question:
The augmented rules (https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/assets/uploads/files/1692452927558-1.g40-naval-mines.pdf) state that NMs can only be placed in ones capital.
I have to assume the following; please let me know if any are incorrect:
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in the USA's case, place in capital means East or West Coast, right? If not what would be the rational ?
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Naval mines can be moved by destroyers or transports - 3 mines per escort. They can unload and arm them after the NCM (non combat move)
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Naval Mines are placed on a line between sea zones - and this has to be noted by the players.
Example : The US could, in theory, place a number of mines in SZ 26 the Hawaii zone. And their location must be specified so the line between 26 and 24 (Wake Island) and 26 and 30 (Johnston Island)
The Japanese could move around these but if they moved directly from Caroline Islands, for example, how are these dice rolls handled ?
Thanks
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Hi Cat
Glad you made it to Asia safely
Business Class or used to be known as 1st Class Yea. so the NMs, NavalMines, US of A has their Capital in "Eastern United States". So can't place them in Cali
Although the blokes can in India so ... well that's the rules NMs can only be moved by "Escorts" not Destroyers. Some of the movement is "Player Enforced".
Yes you have the Sealine in the Seazone defending correct. Use the comment log to state which Mines defend where and/or state in Game Thread.
Actually best to state in Game thread as comment Log can get missed but when in doubt, check the log and if it's listed as it should be, then you'll have your answer.
Do your turn and save it where you have a question and I will look at it.
Idk any Chinese and JPN seems inappropriate, so a Good Day to you
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@beelee Thanks - how are these mine attacks done in the game - what I mean is how are dice rolled?
So the only way to get Naval Mines From the East Coast to the Pacific is to ship them via transport or escort from the East Coast through Panama Canal or the long way???
So what is an "escort"? The rules say a ship that attacks with 1 and defends with 2 and follow destroyer rules.
So I don't get it - how do we acquire escorts?
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Yea so NMs are produced in EUS only. I think you can Rail move them, I'll check.
Nope you can't
brb with the Escort/DD thingy
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@beelee Sorry to nag you on this but these Naval Mines seem very powerful if used well...
So what are Naval Mines 2 and 3 ? I thought you addressed that earlier but now I cannot find that. My plan is to purchase 5 Naval Mines, place them on the east coast, then next turn to load 5 naval mines onto the transport there, and ship them (in 3 turns) to the Japan Sea Zone.
OK I am kidding but this would work yes? The game shows that a transport can hold 5 NMs. But the rules may have said that "Escorts" whatever those are, can only hold and ship 3...
So confusing...
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@beelee It turns out that knowing Japanese is a very valuable asset here in 2025 Taiwan.
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@beelee YES I know this - and read it many times. Still don't know:
- what is an escort and how to get them
- How many NMs can be moved by escort (the game allows transports to move 5)
- What is a NM2 and NM3
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Yea so only "3" NMs on a "Escort" at a time. Player Enforced. Triple has to allow illegal moves to make all Units transportable.
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NM 2 = 2 NMs and 3 =3. 3 is the most common I find because that is max Escort ability to transport. Have to use edit to place them.Edit 2
Ah you are in Formosa. I thought I had something wrong A Pleasant evening to you and I will post the Escorts directly -
Patience Grasshopper
i will explain directly
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Escorts can't be purchased until turn 4, Late 1941. You can buy NMs and place them in your Capital but won't be able to move them until Escorts come into play.
So rd 5, Early 1942, would be the soonest you could move NMs that you had previously purchased.
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When in doubt, you have to Player Enforce the rules.
Yea you probablly need to read the captain's rules again as i doubt the above explains it to you fully.
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@beelee Patience... sorry but that was Latency not impatience, hahaha.
OK thanks I get all this mine stuff now - except how to get "escorts" but I am patient and look forward to the explanation when you get to it...
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@johnnycat said in EXP Game 1 Trout vs Johnny Cat:
but that was Latency not impatience, hahaha.
there you go again with those high dollar college words
I might have to look it up since I'm not at the bar and can ask 2 year Bachelor degree buddy the definition lol
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Do they have Halibut there ? Idk I would think so
favorite type of fish and chips Edit 2
I edited above post for Escorts -
@johnnycat He's in a yellow $2 territory that CKS ran away to after Mao decided that Communism is the way to go so that everybody can have a bowl of rice all to themselves every day. We are on Turn 3 in our game so Escorts not available yet. They work best in places that are bottlenecks which the Pacific doesn't have too much of. But it would probably cause me to take Pearl Harbor off of the attack list. Oh wait. Emperor has offered peace forever to Franklin so never mind, won't attack there .... Unless USA offends the Emperor's honor and rejects his offer.
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@trout said in EXP Game 1 Trout vs Johnny Cat:
We are on Turn 3 in our game so Escorts not available yet
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USA3 just bought stuff, moved stuff, etc. but was surprised to find out that we were at war with Germany at the end of the turn - I had hoped to hang out with Hitler...
China did as they do - but they will return to wipe out the Japanese Plague soon enough...
And the UK did mostly India theater stuff - NOTE: I would like to have all the Land Mines in Burma ARMED...
I guess that is it; please let me know if I made any mistakes.
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@johnnycat Looks fine to me. Your China moves are as good as any player on the planet so you are a fast learner I guess in terms of the moves you do. Just need to learn the rules and you will be a force. Only mistake is that you can only put 3 pieces in Western USA/SZ 10 while at peace. Since until war, all three of the industrial complexes for USA are minors. Then they convert to majors after DOW. But let's play on as it's a learning game. Will post I3 later today
Game HistoryRound: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Southern Italy 1 armour moved from Algeria to Morocco Italians take Morocco from French 1 armour moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Alexandria 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in Alexandria Battle in Trans-Jordan Italians attack with 2 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians win, taking Alexandria from British, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in 94 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters French defend with 1 cruiser Italians win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Italians in Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy EDIT: 2 italian_paras moved from Southern Italy to Greece EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV moved from Southern Italy to Greece EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Greece Place Units - Italians 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs148ec5af-589b-4b82-821f-fc4c362ca90a-exp-game-1-jc-i3.tsvg
UK hoarding money for something -
Good Morning Cat
I think it' morning there
I don't really know though So to arm the LMs in India, turn on edit "Add Units" , click on India, select "Changer". There are border specific ones for India so add the
"India_Burma" one or ones
Then remove the unarmed ones. You have to handroll for the LMs before battle and edit any casualties.
It can be hard to find the right LM sometimes. If in doubt just pick a generic one and document in the comment log where it's defending.
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Wow yanks a got a ton of Subs alreadyEdit 2
You have 2 Elites in Scotland. Can only have 1 Elite in a TTy. So either take Ireland or swap him out for a regular Inf.Reminder. The Commandos are only good if paired with Arty
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@trout Dear FieldMarshal von Tasty Fish,
Indeed General Montgomery and The Chaps (I forgot the admirals’ names) decided to plop down an unstoppable fleet in one turn. Which at this rate will be turn 8 (sure hope Stalin will still be around).
So Operation Sea Lion better get going soon, lol
Or maybe I’ll do something super weird.
BAD NEWS for the game, but GREAT NEWS for me, is that I’ll be out of internet (game play) contact for five days.
Oh and THANK YOU for the USA notes about minor factories…. I had no idea! Is that info buried in those house rules?
As for China… wow they seem to have zero choices. Unless
Franky decides to pretend the Japs were coming and decided a preemptive strike.I look forward to hiring Doolittle and his crew, heehee
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