Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat
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I can load various game saves of my own so the issue seems to be related to when I load this save of our first turn from @Trout
But Trout just saved his first turn as normal... Also I logged a bug fix as you can see
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You are reporting on an error with version 2.7.14962. The cause of this error,
ERROR o.t.game.client.HeadedGameRunner - null java.lang.NullPointerException: null. This is a null value stored in the saved game header and has already rectify. This may make some newer version save incompatibility with older versions. This 'save incompatibility' does not happen all the time. @Trout is using 2.7.15256, you @beelee are using 2.7.14962. Ask @beelee if he can open the save game, I could not using 2.7.14962. I was able to use 2.7.15025 and load @Trout's da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg saved game.
Even though a higher version can open a lower version save, the reverse may not hold true.
Hope this is helpful, please direct any further inquiries regarding this matter directly to your in-game representative
@beelee 
.Cheers...
P.S. A 2.7.15025 save was still incapnot work able with 2.7.14962, so reposting a save will not help. Everyone needs to be on the same map version because the saved game contains a lot of map specific information and can cause a lot of incapability issues. Also 2.7 higher 15026 may not work with lower versions. Although this issue is kind of hit or miss.
Again Cheers...
And etcetera...
It was this saved game, da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg, from @Trout that has been the bane of my past few days. It will not work with 2.7.15278 because of an 'any' problem, won't work with 2.7.14962 because of a 'null' in the save file header.
Please, please... help @JohnnyCat, get this game rolling. Give a guy (me) a breakCheers...
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Good Afternoon Gentleman
Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.
Trout had recently updated but our current game continued to work, so i didn't give it much thought.
I'm not really sure the status of the latest prerelease, so @Trout , I'd suggest using 14962 or whatever one it was you were using when we started our last game and trying another save.
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.14962
@JohnnyCat I will start a test for us just to see if we can get it to work and there isn't some other problem.
I will do that directly
Edit
I just tried to load Trouts save again and it doesn't work. I should have ciphered that sooner but then mental failures are nothing new to meEdit 2
@JohnnyCat try using this save and select pbem.It should take you to the German Purchase window. It should say "Dice Server On" bottom right
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@beelee said in Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat:
Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.
Your last game may have been started with 2.7.14926, which would have created the game header. The game header information is stored and read like the xml. Even though @Trout may have used a different version, the stored/old header is still written to the save file.
Here @Trout is creating the first save, so his version is creating the header.Cheers...
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yea thought it might be something like that. Shoulda picked up on this sooner lol
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When things work, things work. It's when they don't work that problems start. Don't be too hard on yourself, you catch a lot of things others don't see.
exp-cat-test-game-1.tsvg on 2.7.14926
on 2.7.15025 
on 2.7.15256 
didn't test because I don't have a copy loaded.Cheers...
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This lady brought here car to my mechanic buddy. "It was working just fine and now it doesn't"
He goes "yea things work and they work and when they break, they don't work anymore "
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Thank for any help. I've been playing this game solo for many months and long to actually play a person.
And Mister Tasty Fish is the perfect Mark, ah I mean highly skilled competitor, for this slaughter, ah I mean well balance game of whits and skills.
Those Nazi scum will PAY for taking Paris !
PS. This is far more interesting than watching a bunch of rich kids on steroids get paid to play with a ball, moooohafahaha
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@beelee Yes I was able to select Start Local Game and your save and it worked fine
But if I tried Play By Forum is got this
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try "Play By Email" not Forum
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@beelee OK. Choosing Play by Email allowed me to open the saved game, purchase some units, play G1... then there were some final posting options but none of those worked presumably because I did not have it set up for real play?
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yea so with pbem
you do your turn them hit "View Turn Summary"
ctrl a
ctrl c
You now have the turn summary copied.
Now ctrl s and make a saved game. I usually state game, opponent, player turn
Then post both to the game thread.
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Note to players Germans: <body><br /><font size="5"><b> 2.6 </b><br /></font><font size="3"><br /></font><font size="5"><b>Game Notes are now Listed under the Help Tab.</b></body> Note to players Germans: IMPORTANT Sometimes triplea will not allow you to make a legal landing on a Carrier. Use edit to replace Units as needed. Do Not Land or Fly Over Friendly Neutral Territories Activated t.... Note to players Germans: Mid Battle Game Save The Hot Key "Ctrl S" will Not Work. You will need to use the Mouse. Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionGermans Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionRussians Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionJapanese Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionAmericans Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionBritish Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionItalians Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionANZAC Trigger BuyLMs: buyMine_Unarmed added to productionFrench Trigger SubPen: buySubPen added to productionGermans Trigger BuyFortifications: buyFortification added to productionJapanese Trigger BuyFortifications: buyFortification added to productionAmericans Trigger BuyFortifications: buyFortification added to productionBritish Trigger BuyFortifications: buyFortification added to productionANZAC Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionGermans Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionJapanese Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionAmericans Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionBritish Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionANZAC Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionItalians Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionGermans Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionJapanese Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionAmericans Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionBritish Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionANZAC Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionItalians Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionGermans Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionJapanese Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionAmericans Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionBritish Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionANZAC Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionItalians Trigger Me 109T: buyMe_109T added to productionGermans Trigger BuyNavyFtrs: buyNavyFighter added to productionJapanese Trigger BuyNavyFtrs: buyNavyFighter added to productionAmericans Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyG_Air_Transport added to productionGermans Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionJapanese Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionAmericans Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionRussians Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionBritish Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionItalians Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionANZAC Trigger BuyAirTrprt: buyAir_Transport added to productionFrench Trigger BuyEngnrs: buyGerman_Engineer added to productionGermans Trigger BuyEngnrs: buyJapan_Engineer added to productionJapanese Trigger BuyEngnrs: buyUSA_Engineer added to productionAmericans Trigger BuyEngnrs: buyRussian_Engineer added to productionRussians Trigger 1stWaffenPnzrArmy: Germans has 1 1stWaffenPnzrArmy placed in 1st Waffen Panzer Trigger PacificEXP PUsSamoa: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Samoa triggerAttachmen2ndSovietAGFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 2nd Army Group Trigger PacificEXPUSA Wake: Americans has 1 infantry placed in Wake Island Trigger PacificEXPUSA HI: Americans has 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 2 usa_fighters placed in Hawaiian Islands triggerAttachmen2ndPanzerArmy: Germans has 1 2ndPanzerArmy placed in 2nd Panzer Trigger PacificEXPJPNFormosa: Japanese has 2 infantry placed in Formosa triggerAttachmenArmyGroupCentreFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in Army Group Centre Trigger PacificEXP PUsNG: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in New Guinea triggerAttachmen1stUSTankFctry: Americans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st USA Tank triggerAttachmen1stUSTank: Americans has 1 1stUSTank placed in 1st USA Tank Trigger PacificEXP PUsMarianas: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Marianas Trigger SpainSNN: Neutral_True has 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter placed in Spain triggerAttachmenArmyGroupNorth: Germans has 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ArmyGroupNorth and 1 Army_Group placed in Army Group North Trigger PacificEXPUSA AK: Americans has 1 aaGun and 3 infantry placed in Alaska triggerAttachmenArmyGroupSouthFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in Army Group South Trigger PacificEXPJPNIwo: Japanese has 1 aaGun and 1 infantry placed in Iwo Jima Trigger PacificEXP PUsFiji: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Fiji Trigger 4thWaffenArmy: Germans has 1 4thWaffenArmy placed in 4th Waffen triggerAttachmen2ndTankArmyFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 2nd Tank triggerAttachmen1stPanzerArmy: Germans has 1 1stPanzerArmy placed in 1st Panzer triggerAttachmen1stWaffenArmy: Germans has 1 1stWaffenArmy placed in 1st Waffen Trigger PacificEXP PUsMex: Changer has 1 4_PU placed in Mexico triggerAttachmenOverflowUSA: Americans has 2 AirCommanderFtrs, 2 AirCommanderTacs, 6 usa_fighterAFs and 6 usa_tactical_bomberAFs placed in Overflow Trigger 2ndAirFleet: Russians has 1 2ndAirFleet placed in 2nd AirFleet triggerAttachmen2ndPanzerArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 2nd Panzer triggerAttachmen1stCorps: Russians has 1 1stCorps placed in 1st Corps Trigger PacificEXP PUsPhil: Changer has 1 5_PU placed in Philippines triggerAttachmen3rdPanzerArmy: Germans has 1 3rdPanzerArmy placed in 3rd Panzer Trigger USA1stAirFleet: Americans has 1 USA1stAirFleet placed in 1st USA AirFleet triggerAttachmen2ndSovietAG: Russians has 1 2ndSovietAG, 1 ArmyGroupActive and 1 Army_Group placed in 2nd Army Group Trigger PacificEXP PUsCelebes: Changer has 1 4_PU placed in Celebes Trigger PacificEXP PUsIwo: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Iwo Jima triggerAttachmenUSADesertArmy: Americans has 1 1stDesertUS placed in USA Desert Trigger 3rdLuftflotten: Germans has 1 3rdLuftflotten placed in 3rd Luftflotten Trigger PacificEXP PUsOkinawa: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Okinawa Trigger PacificEXPOkinawaJPN: Japanese has 1 infantry placed in Okinawa triggerAttachmen1stUSAG: Americans has 1 1stUSAG, 1 ArmyGroupActive and 1 Army_Group placed in USA Army Group triggerAttachmen1stCorpsFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st Corps triggerAttachmen1stTankArmyFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st Tank Trigger PacificEXP PUsCaroline: Changer has 1 3_PU placed in Caroline Islands Trigger ArgentinaSNN: Neutral_True has 1 armour placed in Argentina Trigger PacificEXP PUsAleutians: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Aleutian Islands triggerAttachmenUKDesertArmy: British has 1 1stDesertUK placed in UK Desert Trigger PacificEXPJPNCaroline: Japanese has 1 aaGun, 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Caroline Islands Trigger PacificEXP PUsDNG: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Dutch New Guinea Trigger PacificEXPUSA Guam: Americans has 1 infantry placed in Guam Trigger PacificEXP PUsSolomon: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Solomon Islands triggerAttachmen3rdCorps: Russians has 1 3rdCorps placed in 3rd Corps triggerAttachmenUKDesertArmyFctry: British has 1 BoxFctry placed in UK Desert triggerAttachmenCredits: Changer has 1 TheCaptain placed in Credits Trigger 1stLuftflotten: Germans has 1 1stLuftflotten placed in 1st Luftflotten Trigger PacificEXP PUsHainan: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Hainan Trigger PacificEXPUK Borneo: British has 1 infantry placed in Borneo Trigger PacificEXPJPNMarianas: Japanese has 1 infantry placed in Marianas Trigger 2ndLuftflotten: Germans has 1 2ndLuftflotten placed in 2nd Luftflotten Trigger SwedenSNN: Neutral_True has 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 fighters placed in Sweden triggerAttachmen3rdCorpsFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 3rd Corps Trigger PacificEXP PUsAK: Changer has 1 5_PU placed in Alaska Trigger PacificEXPUSA Midway: Americans has 1 aaGun and 2 infantry placed in Midway triggerAttachmen2ndTankArmy: Russians has 1 2ndTankArmy placed in 2nd Tank Trigger PacificEXP PUsLine: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Line Islands Trigger PacificEXP PUsMidway: Changer has 1 3_PU placed in Midway triggerAttachmenArmyGroupSouth: Germans has 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ArmyGroupSouth and 1 Army_Group placed in Army Group South triggerAttachmen1stUSAGFctry: Americans has 1 BoxFctry placed in USA Army Group Trigger PacificEXPUK NG: ANZAC has 2 infantry placed in New Guinea triggerAttachmen3rdPanzerArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 3rd Panzer Trigger PacificEXPJPNPaulau: Japanese has 1 infantry placed in Paulau Island Trigger 2ndWaffenArmy: Germans has 1 2ndWaffenArmy placed in 2nd Waffen Trigger ChileSNN: Neutral_True has 1 fighter placed in Chile triggerAttachmen1stDesertArmy: Germans has 1 DAK placed in 1st Desert Trigger PacificEXP PUsGilbert: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Gilbert Islands triggerAttachmen1stDesertArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st Desert triggerAttachmenArmyGroupCentre: Germans has 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ArmyGroupCentre and 1 Army_Group placed in Army Group Centre triggerAttachmenOverflow: Russians has 2 AirCommanderFtrs, 2 AirCommanderTacs, 3 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 2 Tank_General3s, 6 fighterAFs and 6 tactical_bomberAFs placed in Overflow triggerAttachmenGermanFlow: Germans has 3 GAirCommanderFtrs, 3 GAirCommanderTacs, 6 GfighterAFs, 6 Gtactical_bomberAFs, 3 Panzer_General3s and 3 Waffen_Oberst_3s placed in GermanFlow Trigger 1stAirFleet: Russians has 1 1stAirFleet placed in 1st AirFleet Trigger PacificEXP PUsGuam: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Guam Trigger 3rdWaffenArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 3rd Waffen Trigger PacificEXP PUsWake: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Wake Island Trigger PacificEXPUK Gilbert: British has 2 infantry placed in Gilbert Islands triggerAttachmen1stPanzerArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st Panzer Trigger 3rdWaffenArmy: Germans has 1 3rdWaffenArmy placed in 3rd Waffen triggerAttachmenArmyGroupNorthFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in Army Group North triggerAttachmen2ndCorpsFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 2nd Corps triggerAttachmen1stSovietAG: Russians has 1 1stSovietAG, 1 ArmyGroupActive and 1 Army_Group placed in 1st Army Group triggerAttachmen1stWaffenArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st Waffen triggerAttachmenUSADesertArmyFctry: Americans has 1 BoxFctry placed in USA Desert triggerAttachmen2ndCorps: Russians has 1 2ndCorps placed in 2nd Corps Trigger PacificEXP PUsPaula: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Paulau Island Trigger 2ndWaffenArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 2nd Waffen Trigger PortugalSNN: Neutral_True has 1 artillery placed in Portugal Trigger PacificEXP PUsCeylon: Changer has 1 1_PU placed in Ceylon Trigger PacificEXPUK Solomon: ANZAC has 1 aaGun and 2 infantry placed in Solomon Islands triggerAttachmen1stTankArmy: Russians has 1 1stTankArmy placed in 1st Tank Trigger TurkeySNN: Neutral_True has 1 armour and 2 fighters placed in Turkey Trigger PacificEXP PUsHI: Changer has 1 4_PU placed in Hawaiian Islands triggerAttachmen1stUKTankFctry: British has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st UK Tank Trigger PacificEXPUSA Mexico: Americans has 2 infantry placed in Mexico Trigger PacificEXP PUsFormosa: Changer has 1 2_PU placed in Formosa Trigger SwitzerlandSNN: Neutral_True has 1 artillery and 1 fighter placed in Switzerland Trigger USA2ndAirFleet: Americans has 1 USA2ndAirFleet placed in 2nd USA AirFleet triggerAttachmen1stUKTank: British has 1 1stUKTank placed in 1st UK Tank triggerAttachmen2ndUSTankFctry: Americans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 2nd USA Tank triggerAttachmen2ndUSTank: Americans has 1 2ndUSTank placed in 2nd USA Tank Trigger PacificEXPUSA Phil: Americans has 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 usa_fighter placed in Philippines Trigger VenezuelaSNN: Neutral_True has 1 fighter placed in Venezuela triggerAttachmen1stSovietAGFctry: Russians has 1 BoxFctry placed in 1st Army Group Trigger 4thWaffenArmyFctry: Germans has 1 BoxFctry placed in 4th Waffen Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 30 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 2 G_Rails owned by Germans in Germany 1 artillery moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 30 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 72 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUsEdit
You can also use pbf but lets get you up and running with pbem first. -
what happens if I miss copying the game summary text?
Is there instructions for how to do this? Am I supposed to be using play by email with Trout? I thought it was play by forum?
What is the point all this? What is contained in the game save file and what else do I need to provide?
I did a German turn 1 in this case. No combat and Hitler bought a carrier and two fighters.
If this was for real is this file I attached enough or do I have to do more? What would be the purpose of copying the game summary text?
THanks
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The turn summary shows what happened during the turn. It's not required as it's also in History but almost all Forum/PBEM players use it.
It's in my post above. Let me know which specific step you had trouble with.
pbem and pbf are slightly different. They are interchangeable but I didn't want to throw too much information at you at once
I will check your save and we will do a few turns for you to get the hang of it
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@beelee wait let's start over form the beginning. I just realized we both did a German turn 1 right?
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And how does Trout and I move on and play that game?
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OK
lets do a few test turns. Trout and you will just start a new one.
I'm gonna do a G1. Be 10 min maybe
So I need to know if you want to scramble to 110 or 111. What we do is post a screenshot of the scramble area for easy to see
and a saved game so you can see the entire combat moves as that can affect whether you want to scramble or not. You do this at the end of your NCM but before starting Combat phase
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@beelee NEVER EVER Scramble planes. Thanks
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@johnnycat I meant - never on turn 1. In anticipation of us playing many more games ....
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