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    • B Offline
      beelee
      last edited by

      @Alexander

      Just to clarify on the NMs

      Screenshot from 2026-02-04 10-35-55.png

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      • B Offline
        beelee @beelee
        last edited by

        @beelee said in Game 1 Multi Panzer Alex vs Trout barnee:

        @trout

        nope i was just screwing up. NMs in 26 defend at 25 so any ships in 26 going to 25 have to roll for them.

        Just me being stupid 🙂

        So the above is incorrect. Ships in 26 can sail to 25 and not cross the NMs

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        • A Offline
          Alexander @beelee
          last edited by

          haha, sorry to cause such a confusion with the NMs

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          • Panzerstahl-Helm 0P Offline
            Panzerstahl-Helm 0
            last edited by

            @beelee

            Howdy,

            almost mised to attack Alexndria.

            1 Art. vs. 3 inf. + 1 art. + 1 tank

            Italian 1 art.:
            1ebd43a2-0113-4d52-a0a5-a2f3b2deed81-{CB52E003-B8A0-4004-AFCB-3BF198022DE5}.png

            UK 3 inf + 1 art. + 1 tank:

            775b1b7c-31ab-4a38-a0d5-c7f1de99542d-{BBC337B7-3386-4DEB-8BAB-97748E99551D}.png

            So the 1 italian art. is out of the game.

            Game History

            Round: 6
            
                Purchase Units - Italians
                    Italians buy 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
            
                Combat Move - Italians
                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Southern Italy
                    Turning on Edit Mode
                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                    EDIT: 1 italian_para moved from Greece to Bessarabia
                    EDIT: 1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
                    1 bomber moved from Greece to Bessarabia
                    1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Bessarabia
            
                Combat - Italians
                    Battle in Bessarabia
                        Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 italian_para
                        Russians defend with 1 infantry
                            Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 italian_para in Bessarabia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                            Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                            1 italian_para owned by the Italians lost in Bessarabia
                            1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                        Italians win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                        Casualties for Italians: 1 italian_para
                        Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                    Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Egypt
                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone
                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone
            
                Non Combat Move - Italians
                    Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone
                    Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEgypt: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Egypt
                    Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                    Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                    Turning on Edit Mode
                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Italians in Romania
                    1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Romania
                    1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany
                    1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
                    EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Gibraltar
                    EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                    EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV moved from Gibraltar to Algeria
                    1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                    1 NavalMine3 moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                    1 Escort and 1 NavalMine3 moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                    1 NavalMine3 moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                    1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
                    2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
                    1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
                    1 Europe_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Romania
                    1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            
                Place Units - Italians
                    8 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy
            
                Turn Complete - Italians
                    Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atSouthern Italy: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Southern Italy
                    Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs
                    Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
                    Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
                    Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs
            

            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

            Italians regular : 1,17
            Russians regular : 0,67
            

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            • B Offline
              beelee @Panzerstahl-Helm 0
              last edited by

              @panzerstahl-helm-0

              Guten Tag Herr Panzer

              Game History

              Round: 6
              
                  Purchase Units - ANZAC
                      ANZAC buy 1 Escort, 1 Fortification, 1 armour, 1 fighter, 3 mine_unarmeds and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
              
                  Combat Move - ANZAC
              
                  Combat - ANZAC
                      Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Egypt
                      Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone
              
                  Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                      Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atSouthern Italy: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Southern Italy
                      Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone
                      Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEgypt: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Egypt
                      Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                      1 armour moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
                      1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java
                      2 air_transports moved from India to Queensland
                      1 Escort moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
                      1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                      1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 mine_unarmeds moved from New South Wales to Queensland
              
                  Place Units - ANZAC
                      1 Fortification placed in Java
                      1 Escort and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
                      1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 mine_unarmeds placed in New South Wales
                      Turning on Edit Mode
                      EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Malaya: 1 infantry
                      EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Shan State: 1 infantry
                      EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
              
                  Turn Complete - ANZAC
                      Trigger ANZAC RemoveANZACConvoySZ62Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by ANZAC in 62 Sea Zone
                      Trigger ANZAC RemoveANZACConvoySZ62Invert: ANZAC has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 62 Sea Zone
                      ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
                      Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 16 PUs
              
                  Purchase Units - French
                      Note to players French: <body><br /><font size="5"><b> NOTE</b><br /></font><font size="3"><br /></font><font size="5">If Using Tech Save Game Now and Select in Game Options and Restart</b></body>
              
                  Combat Move - French
              
                  Combat - French
                      Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Egypt
                      Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone
              
                  Non Combat Move - French
                      Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atSouthern Italy: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Southern Italy
                      Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone
                      Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEgypt: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Egypt
                      Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                      Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
              
                  Turn Complete - French
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              EXP Game 1 Multi APbT F 6.tsvg

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              • Panzerstahl-Helm 0P Offline
                Panzerstahl-Helm 0
                last edited by Panzerstahl-Helm 0

                @Trout

                Ignore my previous message. I re-did my turn.

                Here we go.

                Game History

                Round: 7
                
                    Research Technology - Germans
                
                    Purchase Units - Germans
                        Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Early 1943 and the 5 Major Powers have Committed to Total War.<br><br><img src="TotalWar.png"/><br><br> Total War Rules are Now in Effect.<b></body>
                        Note to players Germans: It is Early 1943 and The Waffen SS have Formed 2 Paratrooper Battalions.       They are Now Available for Purchase.
                        Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Early 1943 and Elite Waffen Panzers are Now Available for Purchase !<br><br><img src="Elitewaffen_panzer.png"/><br><br> You May Only Have One Total at Anytime .<b></body>
                        Note to players Germans: It is Early 1943 and our Armament Industry has Produced Another Wonder Weapon !       You may now purchase Rockets.
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank added to productionGermans
                        Trigger Rockets: buyGerman_Rockets added to productionGermans
                        Trigger HeavyCV: buyHvyCarrier added to productionJapanese
                        Trigger HeavyCV: buyHvyCarrier added to productionAmericans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansEliteWaffenPanzer: buyEliteWaffen_Panzer added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionGermans
                        Trigger WaffenPara: buyWaffen_Para added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionGermans
                        Trigger GermansTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionGermans
                        Trigger ItaliansBuyTakeOverItaly: buyTakeOverItaly added to productionItalians
                        triggerAttachmenLate1942: has removed 1 Late1942_red owned by Changer in Late 1942
                        triggerAttachmenEarly1943Red: has removed 1 Early1943 owned by Changer in Early 1943
                        triggerAttachmenLate1942: Changer has 1 Late1942 placed in Late 1942
                        Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone
                        triggerAttachmenEarly1943Red: Changer has 1 Early1943_red placed in Early 1943
                        Germans buy 1 ElitePanzer, 1 Elitewaffen_panzer, 2 German_LCVs, 5 German_Rocketss, 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 SP_Artillery, 2 Waffen_Paras, 1 elite, 1 german_para and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                
                    Place Units - Germans
                        Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 ElitePanzer and 2 german_paras
                        1 Elitewaffen_panzer and 2 Waffen_Paras placed in Germany
                
                    Combat Move - Germans
                        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany
                        Turning on Edit Mode
                            EDIT: Germans takes Karelia from Russians
                            EDIT: Germans takes Finland from Russians
                        EDIT: Changing ownership of Karelia from Germans to Russians
                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                        EDIT: 1 Waffen_Para moved from Germany to Finland
                        EDIT: 1 Waffen_Para moved from Germany to Novgorod
                        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
                        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
                        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                        4 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                        1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Germany to Baltic States
                        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
                
                    Combat - Germans
                        Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                        Battle in Novgorod
                            Germans attack with 1 Waffen_Para and 2 bombers; Changer loiter and taunt
                            Changer defend; Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 russian_minor
                                Germans roll dice for 1 Waffen_Para and 2 bombers in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                            Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 Waffen_Para and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                        Battle in Baltic States
                            Germans attack with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 bomber and 5 infantry
                            Russians defend with 3 infantry
                                Germans roll dice for 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 bomber and 5 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 bomber and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                        Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Egypt
                        Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                
                    Non Combat Move - Germans
                        Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atSouthern Italy: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Southern Italy
                        Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEgypt: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Egypt
                        Turning on Edit Mode
                        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Novgorod: 1 russian_minor
                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Holland Belgium
                        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Bessarabia
                        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals
                        1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Baltic States to Bessarabia
                        1 ArmyGroupCentre, 1 ElitePanzer, 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                        7 mine_unarmeds moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                        1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                        1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                        1 G_Rail and 1 German_LCV moved from Germany to Bessarabia
                        5 mine_unarmeds moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
                        1 Waffen_Arty moved from Northern Italy to Romania
                        1 GermanUBoat moved from 92 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
                        3 GermanUBoats moved from 93 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
                        3 GermanUBoats moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
                        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
                        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark
                        1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
                        2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Bessarabia
                        1 waffen_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
                        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux
                        1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Holland Belgium
                        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
                        1 waffen_infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
                        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
                        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
                        1 Elitewaffen_panzer moved from Germany to Western Germany
                        1 elite moved from Germany to Western Germany
                        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
                        1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Romania
                        1 ElitePanzer and 1 G_Rail moved from Romania to Holland Belgium
                        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
                
                    Place Units - Germans
                        3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                        2 German_LCVs, 5 German_Rocketss, 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 SP_Artillery and 1 elite placed in Germany
                        1 ElitePanzer, 1 german_para and 2 infantry placed in Germany
                        Turning on Edit Mode
                        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 5 mine_unarmeds
                        EDIT: Adding units owned by Changer to Eastern Poland: 5 german_mine_Oranges
                        COMMENT: 5 LM in EPol defend against Belarus
                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                
                    Turn Complete - Germans
                        Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone
                        Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                        Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                        Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 60 PUs
                        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
                        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Russians regular : -0,33
                Germans regular : 1,67
                

                exp-game-1-multi-apbt-G7.tsvg

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                • B Offline
                  beelee
                  last edited by beelee

                  @Alexander

                  Good Afternoon

                  Game History

                  Round: 7
                  
                      Purchase Units - Russians
                          Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1943 and the Best Soviet Tank Unit has been Promoted to Elite Status.<br><br><img src="Elitearmour.png"/><br><br> You May Only Have One Total at Anytime .<b></body>
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansEliteArmor: buyEliteArmour added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank_2 added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionRussians
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionRussians
                          Russians buy 1 Elitearmour, 3 Mass_Tankss, 1 TankLL, 1 Tank_General, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 UndrgroundFctry, 1 elite and 3 mine_unarmeds; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 AirLendLease; 2 TankLendLease; 
                  
                      Place Units - Russians
                          Units in Russia being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_major
                          1 UndrgroundFctry placed in Russia
                          1 TankLL placed in Caucasus
                  
                      Combat Move - Russians
                          Trigger Russians RemoveLendLeaseFeeTank: has removed 1 TankLL owned by Russians in Caucasus
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Caucasus: 1 uk_armour
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Caucasus: 1 armour
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Archangel: 1 Russian_Engineer
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Archangel: 1 Russian_EngineerAttack
                              EDIT: Russians takes Poland from Germans
                          EDIT: Changing ownership of Poland from Russians to Germans
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
                          1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Baltic States
                          1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Baltic States
                          EDIT: 1 1stTankArmy moved from Bryansk to 1st Tank
                          EDIT: 1 Tank_General and 5 armour moved from 1st Tank to Bryansk
                          EDIT: 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
                          EDIT: 2 armour moved from Bryansk to Baltic States
                          1 Russian_EngineerAttack moved from Archangel to Novgorod
                          2 guard_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Baltic States
                          1 guard_infantry moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
                          1 russian_para moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
                                Russians take Ethiopia from Italians
                          1 armour moved from Suiyuyan to Sikang
                                Chinese take Shensi from Japanese
                                Chinese take Sikang from Japanese
                          1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
                                Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese
                          1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
                                Russians take Korea from Japanese
                  
                      Combat - Russians
                          Battle in Baltic States
                              Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 fighters, 2 guard_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                              Germans defend with 4 infantry
                                  Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters, 2 guard_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                                  Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                                  1 armour owned by the Russians and 2 guard_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                                  1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                                  Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                  Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                  2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                                  Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                                  Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                  1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                              Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                              Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 2 guard_infantrys
                              Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                          Battle in Novgorod
                              Changer loiter and taunt; Russians attack with 1 Russian_EngineerAttack, 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 guard_infantry
                              Germans defend with 1 Waffen_Para, 1 airfield and 1 harbour; Changer defend
                                  Russians roll dice for 1 Russian_EngineerAttack, 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 guard_infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                  Germans roll dice for 1 Waffen_Para in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                  1 guard_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                                  1 Waffen_Para owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                              Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 Russian_EngineerAttack, 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                              Casualties for Russians: 1 guard_infantry
                              Casualties for Germans: 1 Waffen_Para
                          Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 92 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone
                  
                      Non Combat Move - Russians
                          Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atSouthern Italy: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Southern Italy
                          Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Russian_Rail owned by Russians in Buryatia
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Russian_Rail owned by Russians in Urals
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail owned by Russians in Volgograd
                          Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Egypt
                          2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Bryansk
                          1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
                          1 Russian_Engineer moved from Belarus to Russia
                          1 russian_para moved from Russia to Caucasus
                          1 Russian_Rail and 1 elite moved from Russia to Urals
                          2 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Urals
                          1 Soviet_Commisar and 3 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
                          2 Army_Conscripts moved from Samara to Volgograd
                          3 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Sikang
                          1 2ndCorps moved from Tsinghai to Sikang
                          1 elite moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
                          1 elite moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
                          2 Army_Conscripts moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
                          2 SP_ArtilleryUSSRs moved from Caucasus to Sikang
                          1 Army_Conscript moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                          1 Russian_Rail moved from Russia to Caucasus
                          1 Russian_Rail and 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Buryatia
                          1 aaGun and 14 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
                          2 Army_Conscripts moved from Novosibirsk to Kansu
                          EDIT: 1 SP_ArtilleryUSSR moved from Sikang to 2nd Corps
                          EDIT: 1 guard_infantry moved from 2nd Corps to Sikang
                          EDIT: 1 1stTankArmy moved from 1st Tank to Bryansk
                          1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                          1 R_Europe_Rail moved from Russia to Bryansk
                          1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
                          1 armour moved from Urals to Russia
                          1 guard_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
                          EDIT: 1 Tank_General and 5 armour moved from Bryansk to 1st Tank
                          EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 artillery and 2 guard_infantrys moved from Bryansk to 1st Corps
                          EDIT: 1 1stCorps moved from 1st Corps to Bryansk
                          EDIT: 1 1stCorps, 1 1stTankArmy, 1 elite and 9 infantry moved from Bryansk to 1st Army Group
                          EDIT: 1 1stSovietAG moved from 1st Army Group to Bryansk
                  
                      Place Units - Russians
                          1 Elitearmour, 3 Mass_Tankss, 1 Tank_General, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 elite and 3 mine_unarmeds placed in Russia
                          Trigger MassTanksPlace3: has removed 3 Mass_Tankss owned by Russians in Russia
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: has removed 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s owned by Russians in Russia
                          Trigger MassTanksPlace3: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
                  
                      Turn Complete - Russians
                          Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEthiopia: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Ethiopia
                          Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                              Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6,4,4,5,1,5,5,2,4,5,4,3,3,5,4,3,3,5,6,4,3,2,6,4,2,1
                          Russians collect 39 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 39 PUs
                          Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                  

                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                  Germans regular : 0.67
                  Russians regular : -1.17
                  

                  EXP Game 1 Multi APbT R 7.tsvg

                  Got a little sloppy missed a rail move and had to undo a buncha stuff 😊

                  Edit
                  Oh I forgot to dust the Bases in Lenningrad

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                    Alexander @beelee
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                    @beelee Not sure if this is legal or if I messed up:

                    Can I land my Bombers on regular carriers? 1 per ship? (I know you can use that ratio on the heavy carriers.)

                    Background is that I moved them to attack but then realized after rolling that they cannot land anywhere but the carriers (2 moves remaining)

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                      beelee @Alexander
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                      @alexander

                      Hi Alex

                      Yea you can only land on Hvy CVs. Right now it allows all Bmbrs to land on any CV for any Player.

                      I have changed it in next update so that you can't land them until Hvy CVs become available and then only for JPN and USA.

                      You still have to PE them though.

                      Edit
                      Also you can land 2 Bmbrs on a Hvy or 1 Bmbr and 2 other Planes.

                      Edit 2
                      so you got Bombard hits and you have to be careful not to send too many Ships. You only had 7 dudes and fired 9 Bombards. So in that case you would've just had your CAs join in NCM.

                      You only got 4 hits so no biggie I'd say there.

                      Screenshot from 2026-02-08 17-00-28.png

                      Then we discount two of the Bmbr hits. I count and I think triplea basically does as well, the cheaper unit first. So the 4s would go Tac and then 3 Bmbrs.

                      Screenshot from 2026-02-08 17-04-54.png

                      All of that still adds up to all the Yanks dying. I guess just move your Bmbrs back to their starting position and move them in NCM.

                      I haven't looked at any of your other battles yet because you would've used them there. Will see if it would have made a difference.

                      Edit 3
                      So you had 3 Bmbrs you could have used. Here's start of Combat

                      Screenshot from 2026-02-08 17-13-33.png

                      It seems logical that you would have sent 1 more Bmbr to Suiyuyan as you only had 1 Air unit there. The other 2 support 2 of the other 3 battles.

                      Suiyuyan is the only one where it may have made a difference.

                      So I suggest rolling for 1 Bmbr and if he hits then change control to JPN and put your dead dude and Bmbr back.

                      If that all seems reasonable to you, you can use the in game Dice Roller, just take a pic of it or the dicebot at the other site.

                      If your Bmbr misses then you'd still suffer the original losses and outcome. Just the additional Bmbr would live.

                      Anyway, if that's not to confusing I am OK with that outcome.

                      Edit 4
                      I guess to be super accurate we could toss out the last two CA rolls so the Yank Ftr woulda lived and got one more crack at a hit.

                      @Panzerstahl-Helm-0 @Trout That all seem good to you guys ?

                      Edit 5
                      Actually the Shensi battle would have been affected too. Manch and Korea both had 4:1 attack ratio so it seems you'd have sent anothet Bmbr to Shensi too.

                      Just follow the steps for the Suiyuyan Battle

                      Edit 6
                      Or you can just do your whole turn over 🙂 Whatever is easiest 🙂

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                        Panzerstahl-Helm 0
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                        @Alexander

                        You could land them on heavy carriers in SZ20.
                        To do this, you would have to buy two, but you can only buy one per turn.
                        So one bomber would have to be lost...
                        To do this, you would have to adjust your purchase, but you would need the Allies' consent.

                        I also saw that you bought a Hvy Minor Upgrade.
                        Unfortunately, you can only upgrade ICs that have existed since the beginning of the game.

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                        EDIT: I just read beelees comment. You can also follow his suggestion 🙂

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                          Trout @beelee
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                          @beelee Hi all. Just to add to this, I have not yet even looked at the file for J’s turn yet. So no issues if a redo needs to be done

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                            beelee @Panzerstahl-Helm 0
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                            @panzerstahl-helm-0 said in Game 1 Multi Panzer Alex vs Trout barnee:

                            I also saw that you bought a Hvy Minor Upgrade.

                            Hallo

                            Actually he bought a HvyInd 2 for the Major in Tokyo

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                              Alexander @beelee
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                              @beelee Thanks all for the feedback (including the detailed break down), I'll take another look at this tomorrow and see how I can fix it the easiest. I think I'll re-do the turn taking one of the transports from Russia down to make up for the naval fire limitations, I'll send my Bombers somewhere else (in range) and likely place it to take a hit on one still to keep it somewhat similar to this outcome.

                              For the shore bombardments, if I have 1 INF supported by a heavy battleship, do I get the usual 2x dice or do I still get capped at the 1 die/INF?

                              Again, apologies for the major mess up on this one

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                                beelee @Alexander
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                                @alexander

                                No worries.

                                Yea the Hvy BB will give 2 support shots even if you only have 1 dude. It should only give 1 shot in that case but triplea can't do that. So 2 Dudes and a Hvy BB and a CA would give 3 shots when should only have 2.

                                So in the first example you would need to hand roll and then edit that into the battle.

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                                  Alexander @beelee
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                                  @beelee Alright, I think everything is legal this time round - managed to find 9 guys for the naval fire and still lost one bomber for the allies.

                                  exp-game-1-multi-apbt-j7.tsvg

                                  Purchase Units
                                  Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Early 1943 and Heavy Carriers May Now be Purchased by Japan and the United States.<br><br><img src="Hvycarrier.png"/<b></body>
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighter: buyTotalWarNavyFtr added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionJapanese
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionJapanese
                                  Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
                                  Japanese buy 1 Hvy_Ind_2, 1 Japanese_LCV, 1 NavalMine2, 4 TotalWarAirTrprts, 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 factory_minor, 4 infantry, 1 japanese_para and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
                                  Place Units
                                  Units in Japan being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_major
                                  1 Hvy_Ind_2 placed in Japan
                                  Combat Move
                                  Trigger Banzai: Japanese has 1 Banzai placed in Japan
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu
                                  Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
                                  Resetting and Giving Bonus Movement to Units
                                  Cleaning up during movement phase
                                  1 artillery moved from Szechwan to Shensi
                                  1 bomber moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
                                  3 bombers moved from Anhwe to Tsinghai
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Shensi
                                  1 elite moved from Szechwan to Shensi
                                  1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                                  Japanese undo move 4.
                                  1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Suiyuyan
                                  1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Shensi
                                  1 Japanese_LCV, 1 artillery and 1 elite moved from Jehol to Manchuria
                                  Japanese undo move 6.
                                  1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Shensi
                                  1 Banzai moved from Japan to Suiyuyan
                                  1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery and 1 elite moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                  Turning on Edit Mode
                                  EDIT: 1 Japanese_LCV, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to Korea
                                  EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                  1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                  1 Japan_destroyer and 1 elite moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
                                  1 elite moved from 5 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
                                  1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
                                  1 infantry moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                  1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                  1 pacific_submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                  1 NavyFighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                  1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                  1 Japan_destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
                                  1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
                                  1 Japan_destroyer and 1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                  1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
                                  1 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                  2 Heavy_BBs moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  2 battleships moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  2 cruisers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 pacific_cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Manchuria
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
                                  Japanese undo move 41.
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to Korea
                                  Combat
                                  Battle in Soviet Far East
                                  Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                                  Battle in Manchuria
                                  Battle in Suiyuyan
                                  Battle in Philippines
                                  Battle in Tsinghai
                                  Battle in Shensi
                                  Battle in Korea
                                  Recording Battle Statistics
                                  Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Ethiopia
                                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 92 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone
                                  Non Combat Move
                                  Trigger RemoveBanzai: has removed 1 Banzai owned by Japanese in Suiyuyan
                                  Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEthiopia: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Ethiopia
                                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atSouthern Italy: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Southern Italy
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone
                                  Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
                                  1 bomber moved from Tsinghai to Kiangsi
                                  Japanese undo move 1.
                                  2 artilleries moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
                                  1 aaGun moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
                                  1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Kweichow
                                  3 bombers moved from Tsinghai to Anhwe
                                  1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                                  1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Kwangsi
                                  1 J_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Kwangsi to Anhwe
                                  Japanese undo move 6.
                                  1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Kwangsi
                                  1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Anhwe
                                  1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                                  2 carriers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  2 tactical_bombers moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 fighter moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 NavyFighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
                                  Japanese undo move 9.
                                  1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                                  1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  2 NavyFighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort_Convoy moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
                                  Japanese undo move 19.
                                  Turning on Edit Mode
                                  EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 NavalMine3
                                  EDIT: Adding units owned by Changer to 31 Sea Zone: 3 JPN_SeaMines
                                  EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                  COMMENT: Japanese red sea mines in SZ 31 along SZ 32
                                  1 Japan_destroyer moved from 47 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort_Convoy moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
                                  Japanese undo move 16.
                                  1 pacific_carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 NavyFighter, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 carrier moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                  1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
                                  1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                  1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Anhwe
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Kwangsi
                                  Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
                                  Cleaning up during movement phase
                                  Place Units
                                  1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu
                                  3 mech_infantrys placed in Kwangtung
                                  1 Japanese_LCV, 1 NavalMine2, 4 TotalWarAirTrprts, 1 artillery, 1 elite, 4 infantry and 1 japanese_para placed in Japan
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprtPlaceJapan4: has removed 4 TotalWarAirTrprts owned by Japanese in Japan
                                  Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprtPlaceJapan4: Japanese has 4 air_transports placed in Japan
                                  Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
                                  Turn Complete
                                  Note to players Japanese: It is Early 1943 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work.  We will soon Launch 1 new Battleship and 1 new Transport. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
                                  Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ31: has removed 1 Escort_Convoy owned by Japanese in 31 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ31: Japanese has 1 Escort placed in 31 Sea Zone
                                  Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
                                  Japanese collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
                                  Trigger Japanese Controls Celebes Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 Optional[PUs]; end with 45 Optional[PUs]
                                  Trigger Japanese Controls Philippines Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 48 Optional[PUs]
                                  Trigger Japanese Controls Guam Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 Optional[PUs]; end with 49 Optional[PUs]
                                  Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 Optional[PUs]; end with 57 Optional[PUs]
                                  Trigger Japanese Controls WakeIsland Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 2 Optional[PUs]; end with 59 Optional[PUs]
                                  
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                                    beelee @Alexander
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                                    @alexander

                                    Hi Alex

                                    I'm thinking maybe you don't understand how the NMs defend. You placed 3 in 31 SZ defending 32 SZ. That means they only defend from any ships in 32 heading into 31.

                                    That's highly unlikely to happen. Same with the ones in 26 defending against 25. That means Ships in 25 moving into 26 would have to cross them.

                                    Anyway it seems you would want 31 defending 26 or moved to a different area.

                                    Let us know your thoughts on that

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                                      Alexander @beelee
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                                      @beelee My understanding is that if I place them in SZ31 defending SZ26 that you could conduct mine sweeping operations.

                                      By placing them in SZ 31 along SZ 32, you would have to take out my blocker (escort) in one turn, but could not de-mine the area until your following turn (effectively acting as a longer delay). Alternatively, if you do take out the blocker, you would still be exposed to the naval mines in your non-combat movement phase.

                                      Similarly, for SZ 26 to SZ 25, if the USA pushes towards Japan this turn (hypothetically), they would be forced to either risk the mine damage or leave behind the corresponding number of escorts to remove them.

                                      Is that a correct or am I missing something?

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                                        beelee @Alexander
                                        last edited by beelee

                                        @alexander

                                        Hi Alex
                                        yea so you deployed the mines in 31 defending against 32. That means the mines in 31 will only defend against Ships sailing from 32 into 31.

                                        Same with 26 defending against 25. Ships sailing from 25 to 26 would be the only ones crossing the NMs.

                                        They work basically same as LMs for which borders they defend.

                                        Edit
                                        Yea so if you placed the 31 LMs at 26, The yanks could send 2 Escorts in CM to get 6 sweep rolls at them. They also have to send any attacking Ships to engage the JPN Escort.

                                        If they don't, then JPN Escort defends and the 2 US Escorts don't because they already did their mission. So if the JPN Escort misses or hits, any survivors then have to retreat back to 26 in which case the NMs won't defend.

                                        We haven't used these a lot but that is my understanding of how they work.

                                        If a attack also takes place with other Ships on the JPN Escort, then all Mine sweeping operations take place, then any NMs left have to be crossed and losses, if any, taken. Then the remaining Ships conduct regular combat against the JPN Escort.

                                        Also, the Minesweeping US Escorts could still be taken as casualties against any NM hits.

                                        Edit 2
                                        Also any surviving NMs that weren’t swept would defend against the Minesweeping Escorts before the JPN Escort would defend.

                                        So one would need to do their Full attack, handroll for sweeping and NMs defending and then fight the battle in edit to allocate losses and hits correctly.

                                        Even if no Mines are swept and no Mines hit, you still need to fight in edit so the Minesweepers won't participate.

                                        I guess I could make a special Escort Minesweeper with no Combat value but we already have a pile of units. If it seems easier to have one I will go ahead and do it.

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                                          Trout @beelee
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                                          @beelee Hi Alex. Should I go ahead with the USA/China/UK turn, or are you still meditating on whether to revise your Naval Mine positioning?

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                                            Alexander @beelee
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                                            @beelee Yes, what you have makes sense.

                                            But with the way I layed them along SZ31/32, I believe you cannot conduct sweeping operations this turn as it is hostile waters. (you would have to eliminate my Escort in that SZ. Then next turn you can either sail though the NMs (rolling for hits) or then conduct sweeping operations.

                                            I don't think it matters if ships are coming to/going from a SZ, so long as the boats cross that 'boarder' they would trigger the mines.

                                            @Trout You should be good to go

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