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    • Panzerstahl-Helm 0P Offline
      Panzerstahl-Helm 0 @Trout
      last edited by Panzerstahl-Helm 0

      @trout said in EXP Game 2 Panzer vs. Trout:

      @panzerstahl-helm-0 Scramble instructions needed for SZ 92. The file is the finish of Combat Movement because if you scramble the Air Commander on Gibraltar, I will need to do it in Edit Mode I believe. First time doing this, so may need to do it a few times before I get it right. Also feel free to check and see if I did my Air Commander correctly. The Luftflotte has one fighter (with the double AC bonus) and two Tac B's.
      83f07d07-902e-48d2-a52b-ae23c33b6300-exp-game-2-trout-vs.panzer-g6.tsvg

      No scramble.
      It doesnt matter if AC can be activated or not
      ...although I am tempted to scramble. ðŸĪŠ

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        Panzerstahl-Helm 0 @beelee
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        @beelee said in EXP Game 2 Panzer vs. Trout:

        OK G is done

        GAirCommanderFtr.png GAirCommanderTac.png

        Yanks and commies will go faster but sadly won't work for your game 😞

        looks awesome! good idea with the marked parts.

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          beelee @Panzerstahl-Helm 0
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          @panzerstahl-helm-0

          heh heh thought the bomb looked pretty cool 🙂 Frostion is a professional computer artist. He Totally Rocks
          Rock On !!!.png We are so lucky to have his dudes to draw from.

          @Black_Elk got his permission too so we're all dialed in there. Of course we credit him as hard as we can
          🙂

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            Trout @beelee
            last edited by

            @beelee Wow! You've been active all night on this! Yes, I can see the complications in getting Air Commander rules into Triple A format. My reasoning on having the fighter get the AC bonus is because I only have two fighters who can reach the SZ. So having the fighter with the bonus allowed me to pair it with the two TB's in the Luftflotte and have a fighter who can die (instead of a bomber) and still have the Luftflotte be intact. What I was unclear on is does he pair with Tac B for the bonus also?? If so, then probably should always have two TB's/one fighter in the Luftflotte with TB getting the bonus which would allow you to attack with 6 drolls @4. I saw where no scramble so that takes care of that.

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              last edited by beelee

              @trout

              Hi Trout

              I got called into an appliance issue and had to pull off for a bit. My solutution is to call somebody and have them fix it before I really screw stuff up lol

              Yea so, Air Fleet has to be together at start of ncm. I think your comment implied that. I better read it again lol

              So you have to have all 4 of the planes intact for the Air Commander to give his bonus. If you take a hit on the Air Fleet you have to take the AC as a hit or he'll keep giving the bonus.

              You can then replace him in ncm by offing a Ftr or Tac if needed. Same as Oberst, Commiesars and PGs.

              Anyway, G was a success. i'm gonna try and finish before I lose my stamina lol
              Still have some other stuff to fix too and hockey tonight :astonished_face:

              So probably won't be getting the update done today

              Edit
              So you have to have all 4 of the planes intact for the Air Commander to give his bonus.

              At the start of CM

              Heh heh in the same territory lol. Maybe I should take a nap 🙂

              Edit
              last try 🙂

              At the start of CM all the planes in the Air Fleet have to be in the same TTy

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                beelee @beelee
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                @Trout

                uggh I'm failing lol

                so the ideal composition is 2 Ftrs 1 Tac. The AC always gets 2 rolls and he can pick one other so, Tac would get 2 rolls supported by a Ftr gives it 2 at 4. For offense.

                I guess 2 Tacs and a Ftr would give you the same 🙂 The AC only boosts rolls not the Tac/Ftr interaction unless it's not in a Air Fleet then it does.

                lol

                For max defense 2 Ftr Aces and a Ftr would be a 8 hitter at 4 🙂

                heh heh can only have one active though 🙂 unless in your Capital

                Screenshot from 2025-05-03 10-35-25.png

                armour.png

                How cool is that ! I mean no way ! How do you do that lol
                Frostion Rocks

                You know who else Rocks @Black_Elk

                harbour.png

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                  @panzerstahl-helm-0 Game History

                  Round: 6
                  
                      Research Technology - Germans
                  
                      Purchase Units - Germans
                          Note to players Germans: It is Late 1942 and The Fuhrer has Ordered Construction to begin on the Atlantic Wall.      Do Not Place more than there are Infantry Present. Player Enforced.
                          Note to players Germans: It is Late 1942 and Our Panzer Generals may be Promoted to Waffen Panzer General.    The Waffen Panzer General can only be placed in Berlin and replace Panzer Generals on a 1:1 basis. German....
                          Note to players Germans: It is Late 1942 and Our Waffen Panzer Grenadier Divisions are reforming as Panzer Divisions.    Waffen Panzers can only be placed in Berlin and replace Panzers on a 1:1 basis. Germany may on....
                          Note to players Germans: It is Late 1942 and after many Sorties the Most Accomplished Fighter Pilots have Obtained "Ace" Status.      Luftwaffe and Fighter Aces are Now Available.
                          Trigger GermansLuftwaffeAce: buyLuftwaffeAce added to productionGermans
                          Trigger WaffenPanzer: buyWaffen_Panzer added to productionGermans
                          Trigger WaffenPanzerPG: buyWaffen_PG added to productionGermans
                          Trigger AtlanticWall: buyAtlantic_Wall added to productionGermans
                          triggerAttachmenLate1942Red: has removed 1 Late1942 owned by Changer in Late 1942
                          triggerAttachmenEarly1942: has removed 1 Early1942_red owned by Changer in Early 1942
                          Trigger Wolfpack at110 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 110 Sea Zone
                          triggerAttachmenLate1942Red: Changer has 1 Late1942_red placed in Late 1942
                          Trigger Wolfpack at93 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 93 Sea Zone
                          triggerAttachmenEarly1942: Changer has 1 Early1942 placed in Early 1942
                          Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 1st Panzer: 1 Panzer_General
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 1st Panzer: 1 Panzer_General3
                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 1st Luftfloffen: 1 GAirCommander and 1 fighter
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 1st Luftfloffen: 1 GAirCommanderOn and 1 GfighterAF
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 1st USA AirFleet: 1 AirCommander and 3 usa_fighters
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 1st USA AirFleet: 1 AirCommanderOn and 3 usa_fighterAFs
                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 1st Luftfloffen: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 1st Luftfloffen: 1 GfighterAF and 1 Gtactical_bomberAF
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Germans buy 4 GermanUBoats, 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Panzer_General, 2 WaffenPnzrGrndrs, 1 elite, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 waffen_infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
                  
                      Place Units - Germans
                          Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 2 Panzer_Grndrss and 1 infantry
                          2 WaffenPnzrGrndrs and 1 waffen_infantry placed in Germany
                  
                      Combat Move - Germans
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Romania: 1 german_paraBoost
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          3 GermanUBoats moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                          1 Wolfpack moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                          3 GermanUBoats moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                          2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
                          4 tactical_bombers moved from France to 92 Sea Zone
                          EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn, 2 GfighterAFs and 1 Gtactical_bomberAF moved from 1st Luftfloffen to 92 Sea Zone
                          EDIT: 1 1stLuftfloffen moved from France to 1st Luftfloffen
                          EDIT: 1 USA1stAirFleet moved from Gibraltar to 1st USA AirFleet
                          EDIT: 1 AirCommanderOn and 3 usa_fighterAFs moved from 1st USA AirFleet to Gibraltar
                          1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
                          2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
                          2 GermanUBoats moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                          5 GermanUBoats, 1 German_Heavy_BB, 2 Wolfpacks, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
                          1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
                          1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
                          2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
                          2 german_paras moved from Greece to Bulgaria
                          1 german_para and 1 german_paraBoost moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                          EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupNorth moved from Eastern Poland to Army Group North
                          EDIT: 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Army Group North to Eastern Poland
                          EDIT: 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                          EDIT: 1 1stPanzerArmy moved from Army Group North to 1st Panzer
                          EDIT: 1 Panzer_General3 and 5 armour moved from 1st Panzer to Baltic States
                          EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Army Group North to 1st Waffen
                          EDIT: 1 Waffen_Oberst, 1 artillery and 2 waffen_infantrys moved from 1st Waffen to Baltic States
                          EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive moved from Army Group North to Baltic States
                          1 Waffen_Arty, 1 elite and 3 waffen_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                          EDIT: 5 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                          2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  
                      Combat - Germans
                          Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Wolfpack at92 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 92 Sea Zone
                          Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                              Germans attack with 1 GAirCommanderOn, 6 GermanUBoats, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF, 2 Wolfpacks, 2 bombers and 4 tactical_bombers
                              British defend with 1 Escort_Convoy, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 transport and 2 uk_fighters
                              Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British
                              Germans win with 1 GAirCommanderOn, 1 GermanUBoat, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF, 2 bombers and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 53
                              Casualties for Germans: 5 GermanUBoats and 2 Wolfpacks
                              Casualties for British: 1 Escort_Convoy, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 transport and 2 uk_fighters
                          Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                              Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                              British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                              Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                              Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                              Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                          Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                              Germans attack with 2 GermanUBoats
                              Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                              Germans win with 2 GermanUBoats remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                              Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                          Battle in Bulgaria
                              Germans attack with 3 german_paras and 1 german_paraBoost
                              Russians defend with 1 russian_para and 1 russian_paraBoost
                              Germans win, taking Bulgaria from Russians with 2 german_paras remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                              Casualties for Germans: 1 german_para and 1 german_paraBoost
                              Casualties for Russians: 1 russian_para and 1 russian_paraBoost
                          Battle in Denmark
                              Germans attack with 2 infantry
                              British defend with 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                              Germans win, taking Denmark from British with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                              Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                          Battle in Baltic States
                              Germans attack with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite, 15 infantry and 5 waffen_infantrys
                              Russians defend with 3 infantry
                              Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite, 15 infantry and 5 waffen_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                              Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                          Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Holland Belgium
                          Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Northwest Persia
                  
                      Non Combat Move - Germans
                          Trigger BritishParaBoost atHolland Belgium: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                          Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atNorthwest Persia: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Northwest Persia
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 2 G_Rails owned by Germans in Germany
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 93 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 2 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone
                          Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals
                          1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                          1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                          1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                          1 elite moved from Germany to Western Germany
                          1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
                          EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn moved from 92 Sea Zone to 1st Luftfloffen
                          EDIT: 1 Gtactical_bomberAF moved from 92 Sea Zone to 1st Luftfloffen
                          EDIT: 1 GfighterAF moved from 92 Sea Zone to 1st Luftfloffen
                          EDIT: 1 1stLuftfloffen moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Southern France
                          EDIT: 1 GfighterAF moved from 92 Sea Zone to 1st Luftfloffen
                          EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Syria to Cyprus
                          EDIT: 1 German_LCV moved from Cyprus to Greece
                          1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
                          1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
                          1 WaffenPnzrGrndr moved from Germany to Baltic States
                          1 elite moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                          1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                          1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Greece
                          1 G_Rail and 1 armour moved from Greece to Germany
                          1 Waffen_Arty moved from Germany to Baltic States
                          1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
                          1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
                          4 tactical_bombers moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
                          1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to France
                          1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
                  
                      Place Units - Germans
                          4 GermanUBoats placed in 112 Sea Zone
                          1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Panzer_General and 1 elite placed in Germany
                          1 fighter placed in Western Germany
                          4 infantry placed in Germany
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Turning on Edit Mode
                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          Germans undo move 4.
                          2 infantry placed in France
                          2 infantry placed in Germany
                  
                      Turn Complete - Germans
                          Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                          Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                          Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                              Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2
                          Germans collect 41 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 43 PUs
                          Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 55 PUs
                          Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
                  

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                  • Panzerstahl-Helm 0P Offline
                    Panzerstahl-Helm 0
                    last edited by Panzerstahl-Helm 0

                    @beelee @Trout

                    The Captain clarified the Air Base upgrade.
                    He wrote the following:

                    "Hi Panzer,

                    Any Air Base that you control from the beginning of your turn can be upgraded with Heavy Industry 2 Units in order to scramble up to 4 friendly Fighter units.

                    In other words - an Air Base that is purchased during the game can be upgraded on the same terms as an Air Base that exists from game start."

                    BR

                    Game History

                    Round: 6
                    
                        Purchase Units - Russians
                            Note to players Russians: It is Late 1942 and Our Factories have Begun Mass Tank Production !    You may now purchase 3 Tanks for 12 PUs. They can only be placed in Moscow.
                            Trigger BuyMassTanks: buyMass_Tanks added to productionRussians
                            Trigger Army ConscriptRemove: buyArmy_Conscript removed from productionRussians
                            Trigger AlliesFtrAce: buyFighterAce added to productionRussians
                            Russians buy 1 FighterAce, 3 Mass_Tankss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 elite, 3 guard_infantrys and 1 russian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 
                    
                        Combat Move - Russians
                            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
                            Turning on Edit Mode
                                EDIT: Russians takes Poland from Germans
                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                            EDIT: 1 russian_para moved from Novgorod to Poland
                            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
                            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Romania
                            3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Northwest Persia
                    
                        Combat - Russians
                            Battle in Romania
                                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Romania
                                Russians win, taking Romania from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Norway
                                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
                                Russians win, taking Norway from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                            Battle in Northwest Persia
                                Russians attack with 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                                Italians defend with 1 italian_para and 1 italian_paraBoost
                                    Russians roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                    Italians roll dice for 1 italian_para and 1 italian_paraBoost in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                                    1 italian_para owned by the Italians lost in Northwest Persia
                                    1 italian_paraBoost owned by the Italians lost in Northwest Persia
                                Russians win, taking Northwest Persia from Italians with 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                Casualties for Italians: 1 italian_para and 1 italian_paraBoost
                            Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                            Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Holland Belgium
                            Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                    
                        Non Combat Move - Russians
                            Trigger BritishParaBoost atHolland Belgium: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                            Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                            Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                            Turning on Edit Mode
                            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Belarus
                            1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
                            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
                            1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakhstan
                            1 fighter moved from Romania to Belarus
                            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
                            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 russian_para moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                            1 2ndCorps, 1 artillery, 1 elite, 5 infantry and 10 mine_unarmeds moved from Smolensk to Belarus
                            1 1stCorps, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 10 mine_unarmeds moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                            1 R_Europe_Rail moved from Russia to Novgorod
                            1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 russian_minor moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                            1 Russian_Rail moved from Russia to Urals
                            1 Russian_Rail and 1 armour moved from Urals to Belarus
                            1 Russian_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Belarus
                            11 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
                            5 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
                            EDIT: 1 1stCorps and 1 2ndCorps moved from Belarus to 1st Army Group
                            EDIT: 1 1stSovietAG moved from 1st Army Group to Belarus
                            EDIT: 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to 1st Army Group
                            EDIT: Russians undo move 18.
                            EDIT: 1 elite moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                            EDIT: 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to 1st Army Group
                            EDIT: 7 mine_unarmeds moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                            EDIT: Russians undo move 20.
                    
                        Place Units - Russians
                            1 FighterAce, 3 Mass_Tankss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 elite, 3 guard_infantrys and 1 russian_para placed in Russia
                            Turning on Edit Mode
                            EDIT: Adding units owned by Changer to Belarus: 20 R_mine_Belarus_BALTs
                            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Belarus: 20 mine_unarmeds
                            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                            Trigger MassTanksPlace3: has removed 3 Mass_Tankss owned by Russians in Russia
                            Trigger MassTanksPlace3: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
                    
                        Turn Complete - Russians
                            Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
                            Russians collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 57 PUs
                    

                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                    Italians regular : -0,50
                    Germans regular : -0,67
                    Russians regular : 0,33
                    

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                        Game History

                        Round: 6
                        
                            Purchase Units - Japanese
                                Note to players Japanese: It is Late 1942 and Prime Minister Tojo has Ordered All Japanese to Fight to the Death !      Banzai Attacks are Now Possible.
                                Japanese buy 1 Japan_destroyer, 2 NavyFighters, 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
                        
                            Combat Move - Japanese
                                Trigger Banzai: Japanese has 1 Banzai placed in Japan
                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu
                                1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                                1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                                1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                                1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                                1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                                1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                                1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                                3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Burma
                                1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_destroyer and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
                                1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
                                1 elite moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
                                1 elite, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
                                1 elite moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                                1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                                1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
                                1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                                1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                                3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                                1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                                1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                                1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
                                1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
                        
                            Combat - Japanese
                                Battle in New Guinea
                                Battle in Burma
                                    Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                                    British defend with 2 infantry
                                    Japanese win, taking New Guinea from ANZAC, taking Burma from British with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                                Battle in 54 Sea Zone
                                    Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                                    ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                                    Japanese win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
                                Battle in Sumatra
                                    Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                                    British defend with 1 infantry
                                    Japanese win, taking Sumatra from British with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                                Battle in Dutch New Guinea
                                    Changer loiter and taunt; Japanese attack with 1 elite, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                                    Changer defend; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                                    Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 elite, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                                    Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                                Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Holland Belgium
                                Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                        
                            Non Combat Move - Japanese
                                Trigger RemoveBanzai: has removed 1 Banzai owned by Japanese in Japan
                                Trigger BritishParaBoost atHolland Belgium: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Yunnan
                                1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
                                1 fighter moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
                                3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                                1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 Heavy_BB, 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 elite, 1 pacific_cruiser and 1 pacific_submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                1 elite moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_Engineer moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_Engineer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
                                1 Japan_Engineer moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
                                1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_Engineer moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_Engineer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
                                1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
                                1 Japan_Engineer moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
                                1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                                4 armour moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
                                1 artillery moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
                                2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Malaya to Yunnan
                                1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
                                1 elite moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
                                1 armour moved from Shantung to Kweichow
                                1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
                                1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
                                1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
                                1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                                1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
                                1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
                                1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
                                1 fighter moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
                                1 Japan_destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                1 Heavy_BB moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
                                1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Korea
                                1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Korea
                                3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to Kweichow
                        
                            Place Units - Japanese
                                1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China
                                1 Japan_destroyer, 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                2 NavyFighters placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Shantung
                                1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu
                                2 infantry placed in Japan
                        
                            Turn Complete - Japanese
                                Note to players Japanese: It is Late 1942 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work.  We will soon Launch 1 new Carrier with 2 new Naval Fighters. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
                                Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 63 PUs
                                Trigger Japanese Controls DNG Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 65 PUs
                                Trigger Japanese Controls NewGuinea Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 67 PUs
                                Trigger Japanese Controls Celebes Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 68 PUs
                                Trigger Japanese Controls Philippines Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 71 PUs
                                Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 79 PUs
                                Objective Japanese 5 Control China: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs
                        

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                          Game History

                          Round: 6
                          
                              Purchase Units - Americans
                                  Note to players Americans: <body><b>It is Late 1942 and Our Factories are Now Producing Tank Destroyers !<br><br><img src="USATankDestroyerFS.png"/><br><br></body>
                                  Trigger USATankDestroyerFS: buyUSATankDestroyerFS added to productionAmericans
                                  Trigger AlliesFtrAceUSA: buyFighterAceUSA added to productionAmericans
                                  Americans buy 1 Escort, 1 FighterAceUSA, 1 USA_TankGeneral, 3 destroyers, 1 harbour, 2 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                          
                              Combat Move - Americans
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States
                                  1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                                  1 AirCommanderOn and 3 usa_fighterAFs moved from Gibraltar to 104 Sea Zone
                                  1 Heavy_BB and 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                                  1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 92 Sea Zone
                                  1 usa_fighter and 1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from Midway to 16 Sea Zone
                          
                              Combat - Americans
                                  Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                                      Americans attack with 1 submarine, 1 usa_fighter and 1 usa_tactical_bomber
                                      Japanese defend with 1 Japan_destroyer
                                          Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                          1 Japan_destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 16 Sea Zone
                                      Americans win with 1 submarine, 1 usa_fighter and 1 usa_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                                      Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_destroyer
                                  Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                                      Americans attack with 1 Heavy_BB, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                                      Germans defend with 1 GermanUBoat
                                          Americans roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                                          Germans roll dice for 1 GermanUBoat in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                                          1 GermanUBoat owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone
                                      Americans win with 1 Heavy_BB, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                      Casualties for Germans: 1 GermanUBoat
                                  Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                                      Americans attack with 1 AirCommanderOn, 1 destroyer and 3 usa_fighterAFs
                                      Germans defend with 2 GermanUBoats
                                          Americans roll dice for 1 AirCommanderOn, 1 destroyer and 3 usa_fighterAFs in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                                          Germans roll dice for 2 GermanUBoats in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                          2 GermanUBoats owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
                                      Americans win with 1 AirCommanderOn, 1 destroyer and 3 usa_fighterAFs remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                                      Casualties for Germans: 2 GermanUBoats
                                  Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                  Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Holland Belgium
                                  Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                          
                              Non Combat Move - Americans
                                  Trigger BritishParaBoost atHolland Belgium: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                  Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 6 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States
                                  1 AirCommanderOn and 3 usa_fighterAFs moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                  1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                  1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                                  1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 usa_armour moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort_Convoy, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 transports and 1 usa_armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 usa_armour moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
                                  1 USA_TankGeneral and 1 elite moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort_Convoy, 1 USA_TankGeneral, 1 elite, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                  1 USA_TankGeneral and 1 elite moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                  1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery, 4 infantry, 1 marine and 3 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
                                  2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort_Convoy, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 pacific_cruiser, 1 pacific_submarine, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island
                                  1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 3 usa_fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
                                  3 usa_fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Wake Island
                                  1 usa_fighter and 1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
                                  1 AirCommander moved from Eastern United States to 92 Sea Zone
                          
                              Place Units - Americans
                                  1 harbour placed in Wake Island
                                  1 FighterAceUSA and 1 USA_TankGeneral placed in Eastern United States
                                  2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
                                  1 Escort, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
                          
                              Turn Complete - Americans
                                  Note to players Americans: It is Late 1942 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work.  1 Carrier with 2 Naval Fighters are placed off the West Coast. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
                                  Trigger Americans RemoveUSAConvoySZ10Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by Americans in 10 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger PacificFleetJPNRD6: Japanese has 2 NavyFighters and 1 pacific_carrier placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger PacificFleetRD6: Americans has 2 NavyFighters and 1 pacific_carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger Americans RemoveUSAConvoySZ10Invert: Americans has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                  Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
                                  Trigger Americans AdvancedProduction: Americans met a national objective for an additional 14 PUs; end with 65 PUs
                                  Trigger Americans Loses Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional -3 PUs; end with 62 PUs
                                  Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs
                                  Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
                                  Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs
                          
                              Purchase Units - Chinese
                                  Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                                  Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
                          
                              Combat Move - Chinese
                          
                              Combat - Chinese
                                  Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                  Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Holland Belgium
                                  Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                          
                              Non Combat Move - Chinese
                                  Trigger BritishParaBoost atHolland Belgium: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                  Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                          
                              Turn Complete - Chinese
                                  Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 4 PUs
                          
                              Purchase Units - British
                                  Trigger FrenchUKRemove: buyFrenchUK removed from productionBritish
                                  British buy 4 UK_LCVs, 3 infantry, 1 mine_unarmed, 3 uk_fighters and 2 uk_paras; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 NavyLendLease; 
                          
                              Combat Move - British
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa
                                  Turning on Edit Mode
                                      EDIT: British takes Greater Southern Germany from Germans
                                  EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                  EDIT: 1 uk_paraBoost moved from Holland Belgium to Greater Southern Germany
                                  EDIT: 2 uk_paras moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
                                  EDIT: 3 uk_fighters moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
                                  2 infantry, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Iraq
                                  1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
                                  4 infantry and 1 uk_fighter moved from India to Burma
                          
                              Combat - British
                                  Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                                      British attack with 3 uk_fighters and 2 uk_paras
                                      Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                                          British roll dice for 3 uk_fighters and 2 uk_paras in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                                          Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                          1 uk_para owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                                          1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                                      British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 3 uk_fighters and 1 uk_para remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                                      Casualties for British: 1 uk_para
                                      Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                  Battle in Iraq
                                      British attack with 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
                                      Germans defend with 2 infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 italian_para
                                          British roll dice for 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                                          Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 italian_para in Iraq, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                                          1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                                          2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq
                                      1 uk_fighter owned by the British and 1 uk_tactical_bomber owned by the British retreated
                                      1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British retreated to Persia
                                      Italians win with 1 artillery and 1 italian_para remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                      Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                                      Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                                  Battle in Burma
                                      British attack with 4 infantry and 1 uk_fighter
                                      Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                                          British roll dice for 4 infantry and 1 uk_fighter in Burma, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                                          Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                          1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
                                          British roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 uk_fighter in Burma, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                          Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                          1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
                                          British roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 uk_fighter in Burma, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                          Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                          1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
                                          1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                                          British roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 uk_fighter in Burma, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                          1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                                      British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 infantry and 1 uk_fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                                      Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                                      Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                                  Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                  Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                          
                              Non Combat Move - British
                                  Turning on Edit Mode
                                  EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Union of South Africa
                                  Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Greater Southern Germany
                                  1 uk_fighter moved from Burma to India
                                  1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Persia
                                  1 uk_fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 92 Sea Zone
                                  2 uk_fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
                                  EDIT: 1 uk_para moved from Holland Belgium to Greater Southern Germany
                                  1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
                                  1 infantry and 1 uk_armour moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                                  1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
                          
                              Place Units - British
                                  Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                  3 infantry, 1 mine_unarmed and 1 uk_fighter placed in India
                                  1 uk_fighter placed in Egypt
                                  4 UK_LCVs, 1 uk_fighter and 2 uk_paras placed in United Kingdom
                          
                              Turn Complete - British
                                  Trigger BritishParaBoost atGreater Southern Germany: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Greater Southern Germany
                                  Trigger BritishParaBoost atNormandy Bordeaux: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                                  Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10
                                      Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1
                                      Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
                                      Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,1,6,5,2,3
                                  British collect 37 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 37 PUs
                                  Trigger British Loses Celebes Pacific Expanded: British met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 36 PUs
                                  Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 42 PUs
                                  Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
                          

                          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                          Americans regular : 0,67
                          Italians regular : -0,33
                          Japanese regular : 0,33
                          Germans regular : 0,17
                          British regular : -2,17
                          

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                            Round: 6
                            
                                Purchase Units - Italians
                                    Italians buy 3 infantry, 1 italian_para and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                            
                                Place Units - Italians
                            
                                Combat Move - Italians
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Rail placed in Southern Italy
                                    1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Greater Southern Germany
                                    3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greater Southern Germany
                            
                                Combat - Italians
                                    Battle in Greater Southern Germany
                                        Italians attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                                        British defend with 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                                        Italians win, taking Greater Southern Germany from British with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                        Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                                    Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                    Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Normandy Bordeaux
                                    Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                    Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Italians
                                    Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                    Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                    Trigger BritishParaBoost atNormandy Bordeaux: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                                    Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                    Turning on Edit Mode
                                    EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                    Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Rail owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                                    1 italian_para moved from Iraq to Syria
                                    1 artillery moved from Iraq to Syria
                                    3 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                                    1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
                                    EDIT: 1 italian_para moved from Southern Italy to Greece
                                    EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV moved from Southern Italy to Greece
                                    EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Greece
                                    EDIT: 1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to Greece
                                    1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                                    1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                                    2 battleships, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                                    3 fighters moved from Greater Southern Germany to Southern Italy
                                    1 Rail moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
                                    1 Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
                                    1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
                                    1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
                            
                                Place Units - Italians
                                    1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                    1 italian_para placed in Southern Italy
                                    3 infantry placed in Northern Italy
                            
                                Turn Complete - Italians
                                    Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 14 PUs
                                    Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
                                    Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 19 PUs
                            

                            The Fuehrer is disappointed in the Duce's leadership. Even after devoting his beloved Luftwaffe to blasting Allied ships from the Mediterranean, Africa is lost to the enemy. Top Secret discussions are being had with his High Command about assuming control of Italy and kicking Duce out of the government. The plan if executed would involve him going peacefully in return for a lifetime supply of spaghetti and gelato.

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                              Game History

                              Round: 6
                              
                                  Purchase Units - ANZAC
                                      ANZAC buy 1 Escort, 1 carrier and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                              
                                  Combat Move - ANZAC
                                      1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                            ANZAC take 54 Sea Zone from Japanese
                                      1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
                                      1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                      1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
                                      3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                              
                                  Combat - ANZAC
                                      Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                                          ANZAC attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                                          Japanese defend with 1 Japan_destroyer
                                              ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                              ANZAC roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                                              Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_destroyer in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                              1 Japan_destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone
                                          ANZAC win with 3 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                                          Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_destroyer
                                      Battle in New Guinea
                                          Changer loiter and taunt; ANZAC attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                                          Changer defend; Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                                              ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                              Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in New Guinea
                                              ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in New Guinea, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                              Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                              1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in New Guinea
                                              1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in New Guinea
                                          ANZAC win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                                          Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                                          Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                                      Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                      Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Normandy Bordeaux
                                      Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                                      Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                      Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                      Trigger BritishParaBoost atNormandy Bordeaux: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                                      Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                      3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
                                      1 air_transport and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to Java
                                      1 air_transport moved from Java to Queensland
                                      1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
                              
                                  Place Units - ANZAC
                                      1 Escort, 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
                              
                                  Turn Complete - ANZAC
                                      Trigger ANZAC RemoveANZACConvoySZ62: has removed 1 Escort_Convoy owned by ANZAC in 62 Sea Zone
                                      Trigger ANZAC RemoveANZACConvoySZ62: ANZAC has 1 Escort placed in 62 Sea Zone
                                      ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs
                              
                                  Purchase Units - French
                                      Note to players French: <body><br /><font size="5"><b> NOTE</b><br /></font><font size="3"><br /></font><font size="5">If Using Tech Save Game Now and Select in Game Options and Restart</b></body>
                              
                                  Combat Move - French
                              
                                  Combat - French
                                      Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                      Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Normandy Bordeaux
                                      Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Poland
                                      Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                              
                                  Non Combat Move - French
                                      Trigger RussiansParaBoost atPoland: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Poland
                                      Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                      Trigger BritishParaBoost atNormandy Bordeaux: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                                      Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                              
                                  Turn Complete - French
                              

                              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                              Japanese regular : 1,00
                              ANZAC regular : -0,33
                              

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                                @panzerstahl-helm-0 Game History

                                Round: 7
                                
                                    Research Technology - Germans
                                
                                    Purchase Units - Germans
                                        Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Early 1943 and the 5 Major Powers have Committed to Total War.<br><br><img src="TotalWar.png"/><br><br> Total War Rules are Now in Effect.<b></body>
                                        Note to players Germans: It is Early 1943 and The Waffen SS have Formed 2 Paratrooper Battalions.       They are Now Available for Purchase.
                                        Note to players Germans: It is Early 1943 and our Armament Industry has Produced Another Wonder Weapon !       You may now purchase Rockets.
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger Rockets: buyGerman_Rockets added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionGermans
                                        Trigger ItaliansBuyTakeOverItaly: buyTakeOverItaly added to productionItalians
                                        Trigger WaffenPara: buyWaffen_Para added to productionGermans
                                        triggerAttachmenLate1942: has removed 1 Late1942_red owned by Changer in Late 1942
                                        triggerAttachmenEarly1943Red: has removed 1 Early1943 owned by Changer in Early 1943
                                        triggerAttachmenLate1942: Changer has 1 Late1942 placed in Late 1942
                                        Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                        triggerAttachmenEarly1943Red: Changer has 1 Early1943_red placed in Early 1943
                                        Germans buy 2 GermanUBoats, 1 LuftwaffeAce, 6 TotalWar_Tanks, 1 UndrgroundFctry, 1 elite and 2 german_paras; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                                
                                    Combat Move - Germans
                                        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany
                                        Turning on Edit Mode
                                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                        Turning on Edit Mode
                                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                        1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                                        1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                                        1 waffen_infantry moved from Baltic States to Romania
                                        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
                                        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
                                        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway
                                        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway
                                        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
                                        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
                                        1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
                                        1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
                                        1 GermanUBoat moved from 113 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                                        1 GermanUBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                                        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to Romania
                                        EDIT: 1 1stLuftfloffen moved from Southern France to 1st Luftfloffen
                                        EDIT: 1 Gtactical_bomberAF moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Normandy Bordeaux
                                        EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Normandy Bordeaux
                                        EDIT: 2 GfighterAFs moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Normandy Bordeaux
                                        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
                                              Germans take Holland Belgium from British
                                        1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                                        1 elite moved from Germany to Poland
                                        1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Artys, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite, 15 infantry and 4 waffen_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
                                              Germans take Novgorod from Russians
                                        1 bomber moved from France to Poland
                                        1 bomber moved from Southern France to Poland
                                        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                                        1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Germany to Romania
                                
                                    Combat - Germans
                                        Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                                            Germans attack with 2 GermanUBoats
                                            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                                            Germans win with 1 GermanUBoat remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                            Casualties for Germans: 1 GermanUBoat
                                            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                                        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                                            Germans attack with 1 GAirCommanderOn, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF and 2 infantry
                                            British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                                            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 GAirCommanderOn, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                            Casualties for British: 1 uk_para and 1 uk_paraBoost
                                        Battle in Norway
                                            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                                            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                            Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                                            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                                        Battle in Bessarabia
                                            Germans attack with 1 infantry
                                            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                                            Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                                        Battle in Romania
                                            Germans attack with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 waffen_infantry
                                            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                                            Germans win, taking Romania from Russians with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 waffen_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                                        Battle in Poland
                                            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 elite and 1 infantry
                                            Russians defend with 1 russian_para and 1 russian_paraBoost
                                            Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 2 bombers, 1 elite and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                            Casualties for Russians: 1 russian_para and 1 russian_paraBoost
                                
                                    Non Combat Move - Germans
                                        Turning on Edit Mode
                                        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                        Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 2 G_Rails owned by Germans in Germany
                                        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 3 Wolfpacks owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                                        Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals
                                        1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
                                        1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Romania to Greece
                                        3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern France to Western Germany
                                        1 bomber moved from Poland to Western Germany
                                        1 bomber moved from Poland to Western Germany
                                        1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
                                        1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
                                        2 fighters moved from Norway to Western Germany
                                        EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 1st Luftfloffen
                                        EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderOn moved from 1st Luftfloffen to 123 Sea Zone
                                        EDIT: Germans undo move 10.
                                        EDIT: 1 Gtactical_bomberAF moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 1st Luftfloffen
                                        EDIT: 2 GfighterAFs moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 1st Luftfloffen
                                        EDIT: 1 1stLuftfloffen moved from 1st Luftfloffen to Western Germany
                                        EDIT: 1 Panzer_General moved from Germany to 2nd Panzer
                                        EDIT: 5 armour moved from Germany to 2nd Panzer
                                        EDIT: 1 2ndPanzerArmy moved from 2nd Panzer to Baltic States
                                        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                                        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                                        1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                                        1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                                        1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
                                
                                    Place Units - Germans
                                        1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 elite and 2 german_paras placed in Germany
                                        6 TotalWar_Tanks placed in Western Germany
                                        Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_major
                                        1 UndrgroundFctry placed in Germany
                                        2 GermanUBoats placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarTankPlaceWesternGermany6: has removed 6 TotalWar_Tanks owned by Germans in Western Germany
                                        Trigger GermansTotalWarTankPlaceWesternGermany6: Germans has 6 armour placed in Western Germany
                                
                                    Turn Complete - Germans
                                        Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                        Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                                            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5
                                        Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 49 PUs
                                        Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 61 PUs
                                        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
                                        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
                                

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                                  @Trout

                                  Damn it! I missed to attack Norway!

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                                  Defence Norway

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                                  ....and I bought a 4th Commisar (this is player enforced)
                                  I replaced him + 1 inf. against 1 Tank General.

                                  BR

                                  Game History

                                  Round: 7
                                  
                                      Purchase Units - Russians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank_2 added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionRussians
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionRussians
                                          Russians buy 1 AirCommander, 3 Mass_Tankss, 10 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 elite and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 
                                  
                                      Combat Move - Russians
                                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
                                          3 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                                          2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
                                          1 elite moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
                                          2 fighters moved from Belarus to Bessarabia
                                          1 FighterAce moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
                                          3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
                                                Russians take Iraq from Italians
                                          1 russian_para moved from Caucasus to Iraq
                                  
                                      Combat - Russians
                                          Battle in Bessarabia
                                              Russians attack with 1 elite, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                                              Germans defend with 1 infantry
                                                  Russians roll dice for 1 elite, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                                                  Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                  1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                                              Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 elite, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                              Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                                          Battle in Eastern Poland
                                              Russians attack with 1 FighterAce and 3 infantry
                                              Germans defend with 1 elite
                                                  Russians roll dice for 1 FighterAce and 3 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                                                  Germans roll dice for 1 elite in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                  1 elite owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                                              Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 FighterAce and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                              Casualties for Germans: 1 elite
                                          Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                          Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                                  
                                      Non Combat Move - Russians
                                          Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                          Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                          Turning on Edit Mode
                                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Norway: 1 infantry
                                          EDIT: Changing ownership of Norway from Germans to Russians
                                          EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Finland: 1 infantry
                                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                          Turning on Edit Mode
                                          EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                          Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Russia
                                          1 FighterAce moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
                                          2 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Belarus
                                          5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                                          1 elite moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                                          6 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                                          3 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
                                          1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk
                                          3 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
                                          1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Russia to Belarus
                                          3 guard_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
                                          1 russian_para moved from Russia to Belarus
                                          3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
                                          EDIT: 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                                          EDIT: Russians undo move 13.
                                          EDIT: 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                                          EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar and 3 armour moved from Belarus to 3rd Corps
                                          EDIT: 1 3rdCorps moved from 3rd Corps to Belarus
                                  
                                      Place Units - Russians
                                          1 AirCommander, 3 Mass_Tankss, 10 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 elite and 1 infantry placed in Russia
                                          Trigger MassTanksPlace3: has removed 3 Mass_Tankss owned by Russians in Russia
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: has removed 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s owned by Russians in Russia
                                          Trigger MassTanksPlace3: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
                                          Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
                                  
                                      Turn Complete - Russians
                                          Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                                              Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1
                                          Russians collect 39 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 39 PUs
                                          Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                                  

                                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                  Germans regular : -1,00
                                  Russians regular : 1,83
                                  

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                                    Round: 7
                                    
                                        Purchase Units - Japanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighter: buyTotalWarNavyFtr added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionJapanese
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionJapanese
                                            Japanese buy 1 Escort, 1 Japan_destroyer, 4 TotalWarNavyFtrs, 2 carriers, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
                                    
                                        Combat Move - Japanese
                                            Trigger Banzai: Japanese has 1 Banzai placed in Japan
                                            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu
                                            1 Japan_destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                            1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                            1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                                            1 bomber moved from Philippines to 46 Sea Zone
                                            1 bomber moved from Philippines to 46 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                                            5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Burma
                                    
                                        Combat - Japanese
                                            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                                                Japanese attack with 1 Japan_destroyer, 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                                                ANZAC defend with 1 submarine and 2 transports
                                                Japanese win with 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                                                Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_destroyer
                                                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine and 2 transports
                                            Battle in Burma
                                                Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                                                British defend with 1 infantry
                                                Japanese win with 5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                                                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                                            Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                            Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Non Combat Move - Japanese
                                            Trigger RemoveBanzai: has removed 1 Banzai owned by Japanese in Japan
                                            Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                            Turning on Edit Mode
                                            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                            Turning on Edit Mode
                                            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                            Turning on Edit Mode
                                            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Kiangsu
                                            5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to Kweichow
                                            1 elite moved from Yunnan to Shan State
                                            1 elite moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
                                            3 armour moved from Kweichow to Shensi
                                            EDIT: 1 factory_minor moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
                                            1 Japan_Engineer moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
                                            1 Japan_Engineer moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
                                            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                                            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
                                            1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Kweichow
                                            1 armour moved from Shantung to Kweichow
                                            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol
                                            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
                                            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                                            1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                                            1 Japan_destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
                                            4 NavyFighters, 1 carrier, 2 infantry, 1 pacific_carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                            1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                            1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                            1 bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                            1 bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                                            4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 46 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                            1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 45 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
                                            1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
                                            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                                            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                                            1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                            1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Japan
                                            1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan
                                            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                                            1 artillery moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
                                            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
                                    
                                        Place Units - Japanese
                                            1 Escort, 1 Japan_destroyer and 2 carriers placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                            4 TotalWarNavyFtrs placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                            3 infantry placed in French Indo China
                                            3 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung
                                            2 infantry placed in Japan
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighterPlaceJapan4: has removed 4 TotalWarNavyFtrs owned by Japanese in 6 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighterPlaceJapan4: Japanese has 4 NavyFighters placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - Japanese
                                            Note to players Japanese: It is Early 1943 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work.  We will soon Launch 1 new Battleship and 1 new Transport. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
                                            Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ6Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by Japanese in 6 Sea Zone
                                            Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ6Invert: Japanese has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 6 Sea Zone
                                            Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 62 PUs
                                            Trigger Japanese Controls DNG Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 64 PUs
                                            Trigger Japanese Controls Celebes Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 65 PUs
                                            Trigger Japanese Controls Philippines Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 68 PUs
                                            Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 76 PUs
                                            Objective Japanese 5 Control China: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
                                    

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                                      @Trout

                                      Sorry, I missed to copy the turn history.
                                      The 6 LM in Burna defend against Yunnan (I also stated this n the comment log)
                                      The Kriegsmarine combined with the Luftwaffe is a hell of a beast! The US Navy needs realy to wathc out this time.... The straight of Gibraltar has already plenty of Allied ships on the bottom.

                                      BR

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                                        @panzerstahl-helm-0 No worries with the turn history. Barnee showed me how to view it in history if needed. Italy has had it rough this whole game 😞
                                        Game History

                                        Round: 7
                                        
                                            Purchase Units - Italians
                                                Italians buy 1 FlakTower, 1 infantry and 1 italian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                        
                                            Combat Move - Italians
                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Rail placed in Southern Italy
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV moved from Greece to Bessarabia
                                                EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bessarabia
                                                EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bessarabia
                                                EDIT: 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Bessarabia
                                                EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
                                                1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                                                1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
                                                1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Bessarabia
                                        
                                            Combat - Italians
                                                Battle in Bessarabia
                                                    Italians attack with 1 Italian_LCV, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                                                    Russians defend with 1 elite and 2 infantry
                                                    Italians win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                                                    Casualties for Italians: 1 Italian_LCV and 2 infantry
                                                    Casualties for Russians: 1 elite and 2 infantry
                                                Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                                                    Italians attack with 2 submarines
                                                    Americans defend with 1 Escort
                                                    Italians win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                    Casualties for Americans: 1 Escort
                                                Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Bulgaria
                                                Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Holland Belgium
                                                Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Denmark
                                                Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
                                        
                                            Non Combat Move - Italians
                                                Trigger BritishParaBoost atHolland Belgium: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                                Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                                                Trigger BritishParaBoost atDenmark: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Denmark
                                                Trigger ParaBoost atBulgaria: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Bulgaria
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                Turning on Edit Mode
                                                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                                                Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Rail owned by Italians in Southern Italy
                                                1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Greece
                                                3 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Romania
                                                EDIT: 1 italian_para moved from Syria to Cyprus
                                                EDIT: 1 italian_para moved from Cyprus to Greece
                                                1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                                                1 artillery moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone
                                                EDIT: 1 italian_para moved from Southern Italy to Greece
                                                EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV moved from Southern Italy to Greece
                                                1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                                                1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
                                                1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
                                                1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
                                                1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
                                                1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                                                1 artillery moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                                                1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
                                        
                                            Place Units - Italians
                                                1 FlakTower, 1 infantry and 1 italian_para placed in Southern Italy
                                        
                                            Turn Complete - Italians
                                                Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
                                                Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
                                                Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
                                        

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                                          Hi guys. Sorry to jump in but I'm pretty sure Panzer would've scrambled to the 92 battle 🙂

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                                            Trout @beelee
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                                            @beelee Good morning all. I think the question is can air units shoot at submarines if no destroyer present? If they can, then I would not attack SZ 92 at all. If I am wrong about the rules then yes he would scramble which in turn would mean I would not conduct the attack. If I was wrong about the rule then I would like to redo my entire I7 turn if Panzer amenable to it as in hindsight I would do something else differently also - but I let it ride since I had already posted the turn and my revision would not be significant

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