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    • JohnnyCatJ Offline
      JohnnyCat @Trout
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      @trout said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

      51e46214-cc05-4796-b935-8f9657e9328c-trout-cat-game-3-uk2.tsvg

      trout-cat-game-3-ITALY-2.tsvg

      Mafia needs WAY MORE cash - next time I wonder if we need play with a bid...

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        @johnnycat Yeah, well. That's why that move which UK did is a popular gambit. You can see quite a few articles on the A&A forum discussing the merits of the "Taranto Raid" which is what it's called. Not everyone does it but the big benefit is that it really sets Italy back alot in the first few turns. The negative is it wipes out alot of expensive UK hardware also and takes the Bomber out of the UK where it's useful for many things in the North Atlantic. Italy is always the weak Axis sister compared to Japan & Germany. It's possible for Italy to recover from it but it usually needs G to help a bit with it by building U-Boats in SZ 93 and sending air & ground units to the Med area also. Frankly that is pretty close to how history played out in the real WW2 anyway.

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          @johnnycat Game History

          Round: 2
          
              Purchase Units - ANZAC
                  ANZAC buy 4 Fortifications, 1 Hvy_Ind_1, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
          
              Place Units - ANZAC
                  Units in New South Wales being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_minor
                  1 Hvy_Ind_1 placed in New South Wales
          
              Combat Move - ANZAC
                  1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                  1 fighter moved from Malaya to 42 Sea Zone
          
              Combat - ANZAC
                  Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                      ANZAC attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                      Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                          ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                          Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                          1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                      ANZAC win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                      Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
          
              Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                  Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                  1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
                  1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                  1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
                  2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                  2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
          
              Place Units - ANZAC
                  4 Fortifications placed in Java
                  1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
                  1 infantry placed in New South Wales
          
              Turn Complete - ANZAC
                  ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 19 PUs
                  Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs
                  Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
                  Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 31 PUs
          
              Combat Move - French
                  1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
                  1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
                  1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 105 Sea Zone
          
              Combat - French
                  Battle in 105 Sea Zone
                      French attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                      Germans defend with 2 GermanUBoats
                          French roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                          Germans roll dice for 2 GermanUBoats in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                          1 GermanUBoat owned by the Germans lost in 105 Sea Zone
                          French roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 105 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                          Germans roll dice for 1 GermanUBoat in 105 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                          1 GermanUBoat owned by the Germans lost in 105 Sea Zone
                      French win, taking 105 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                      Casualties for Germans: 2 GermanUBoats
                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone
          
              Non Combat Move - French
                  Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                  1 fighter moved from 105 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                  1 destroyer moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                  1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
                  1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
          
              Turn Complete - French
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          French regular : -0.67
          Japanese regular : -0.17
          ANZAC regular : 0.17
          Germans regular : -0.50
          

          Yeah, the Frenchies killed two U-Boats. They can now say that they did something besides just die in this game. Good job - free croissants for all who participated.

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            JohnnyCat @Trout
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            @trout said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

            356a6c38-debb-40b0-8c6d-51e31dbbdef3-trout-cat-game-3-f2.tsvg

            trout-cat-game-3-GERMANY_3.tsvg

            I need more money

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              Trout @JohnnyCat
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              @johnnycat Me too 😁

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                JohnnyCat @Trout
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                @trout HAHAHAHA

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                  JohnnyCat @Trout
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                  @trout

                  Hey mate - hope you having a great weekend...

                  I met some guys to play the actual boardgame yesterday. Fun times...

                  QUESTION:

                  When and how does the Japanese able to non-combat move into Celebes, Sumatra, etc.?

                  I am on turn 1 and tried a million things but none work. What am I missing?

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                    beelee @JohnnyCat
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                    @johnnycat

                    Hi Cat

                    JPN has to DOW on UK to be able to attack the Dutch. Page 8 OOB rule https://www.hasbro.com/common/documents/60D52426B94D40B98A9E78EE4DD8BF94/6B7BC7B257E049558181A7D71B822DCF.pdf

                    Screenshot from 2026-02-01 18-32-36.png

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                      JohnnyCat @beelee
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                      @beelee Got it ! I looked for that in the rule book but I searched on "celebes" and not "Dutch Territories".

                      I am SO UNIMPRESSED by the poor quality of these rule books...

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                        @johnnycat

                        yea I have a hard time navigating it myself 🙂

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                          Trout @JohnnyCat
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                          @johnnycat Game History

                          Round: 3
                          
                              Purchase Units - Russians
                                  Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1941 and The Soviet Union can Form up to 2 Tank Armies.<br><br><img src="Tank_General.png"/><br><br><br />You may purchase 1 Tank General per turn.<b></body>
                                  Note to players Russians: It is Early 1941 and The Soviet Union has Tankograd Up and Running !     Russia receives 1 Free Tank per turn as long as they control the Urals.
                                  Trigger TankGeneral: buyTank_General added to productionRussians
                                  Russians buy 1 Tank_General, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 elite; Remaining resources: 17 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 
                          
                              Combat Move - Russians
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
                          
                              Combat - Russians
                                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                          
                              Non Combat Move - Russians
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Caucasus
                                  1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
                                  1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Russia to Rostov
                                  1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
                                  1 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov
                                  1 armour moved from Russia to Rostov
                                  1 elite moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                                  1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                                  2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                                  1 Russian_Rail and 1 mine_unarmed moved from Russia to Caucasus
                                  1 Russian_Rail and 1 mine_unarmed moved from Russia to Caucasus
                                  1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 mine_unarmed moved from Russia to Caucasus
                                  1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
                                  1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
                                  1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk
                                  1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
                                  1 armour moved from Urals to Russia
                                  4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
                          
                              Place Units - Russians
                                  1 Tank_General, 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 elite placed in Russia
                                  Turning on Edit Mode
                                  EDIT: Adding units owned by Changer to Caucasus: 3 R_mine_CAUC_100s
                                  EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 3 mine_unarmeds
                                  EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                          
                              Turn Complete - Russians
                                  Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 54 PUs
                          

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                            @trout Trout-cat-game-3-JAPAN_3.tsvg

                            Japan is too tired to type - Emperor Whatever his name is, call this a national day of early rest. No battles were fought even. not really. well a couple small ones but of no effect...

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                              Trout @JohnnyCat
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                              @johnnycat Good morning JC. Noticed that in your G3, you placed a factory in Greece and 3 U-Boats in Ty Sea. But not allowed to do that. Units can only be placed in a factory that existed before the turn starts. Do you want to redo your G3 or just have me revise your turn via Edit? If revise, do you want to place the 3 UBoats in the North Atlantic or use your 12 Franks for something else?

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                                beelee @Trout
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                                @trout

                                He has a Fctry in Yugo that allows it

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                                  Trout @beelee
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                                  @beelee Oh wow! You are right. Churchill officially worried about Egypt now

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                                    @johnnycat USA wants revenge! Attacking SZ 6. Scrambled eggs in Tokyo today? Or will the Emperor save his Zeros this turn for another dastardly deed in the future?

                                    54b99bc8-245a-4983-b422-6ff4136a4cf7-trout-cat-game-3-uk3.tsvg Actually use this one. I decided to fly over two more fighters just in case you decide to scramble be48e368-f783-491e-8057-59126d1e9222-trout-cat-game-3-uk3.tsvg

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                                      JohnnyCat @Trout
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                                      @trout wow. I love it. you fell right into this trap

                                      no eggs

                                      hahaha. OK so not being cocky but, unless there is some new (new to me) rule... I am thinking that you will regret this move.

                                      Then again, I dont even know what to do with the Mafia so maybe I could be mistaken wrong. Either way I am having a gallant time

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                                        @johnnycat said in EXP G40 Game 3 Trout vs JCat:

                                        Either way I am having a gallant time

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                                          Trout @JohnnyCat
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                                          @johnnycat Make me regret it! You are the bad guys remember. Attacking poor Filipino grannies on 1st turn no less. Game History

                                          Round: 3
                                          
                                              Purchase Units - Americans
                                                  Americans buy 2 ArmoredInfantrys, 2 NavyFighters, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 elite, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 transports and 1 usa_fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                                          
                                              Combat Move - Americans
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States
                                                  1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  1 usa_fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  1 Heavy_BB moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  2 usa_fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                                                  2 usa_fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
                                          
                                              Combat - Americans
                                                  Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                                                      Americans attack with 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 2 submarines, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber
                                                      Japanese defend with 2 Japan_destroyers, 2 cruisers and 6 submarines
                                                          Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                          Americans roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 6 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                                      Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 2 Japan_destroyers and 2 cruisers in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                                                      Units damaged: 1 Heavy_BB owned by the Americans
                                                          1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                                          5 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                                          Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Americans roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 6/12 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 2 Japan_destroyers and 2 cruisers in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                                                          1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                                          2 Japan_destroyers owned by the Japanese, 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 2 cruisers owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                                                      Americans win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 49
                                                      Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                                                      Casualties for Japanese: 2 Japan_destroyers, 2 cruisers and 6 submarines
                                                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                                          
                                              Non Combat Move - Americans
                                                  Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 2 Rails owned by Americans in Western United States
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 4 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States
                                                  2 carriers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                                                  1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                                                  5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                                                  1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
                                                  1 Heavy_BB moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                                  3 usa_fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
                                                  2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
                                                  2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                                                  1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                                                  1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                                                  2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                                                  1 Rail and 1 elite moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
                                                  1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                                                  1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                                                  1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
                                                  1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                                  1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                                  1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                                                  2 usa_fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone
                                                  1 Rail and 1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
                                          
                                              Place Units - Americans
                                                  1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                                  2 NavyFighters placed in 10 Sea Zone
                                                  1 elite and 1 usa_fighter placed in Eastern United States
                                                  1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
                                                  1 ArmoredInfantry and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
                                                  1 ArmoredInfantry and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
                                          
                                              Turn Complete - Americans
                                                  Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs
                                                  Trigger Americans AdvancedProduction: Americans met a national objective for an additional 14 PUs; end with 67 PUs
                                                  Trigger Americans Loses Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional -3 PUs; end with 64 PUs
                                                  Trigger Americans Loses Guam: Americans met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 63 PUs
                                                  Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
                                                  Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
                                                  Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
                                          
                                              Purchase Units - Chinese
                                                  Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                                                  Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                                          
                                              Combat Move - Chinese
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceChinese: Chinese has 2 Rails placed in Kansu
                                                  2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
                                                  1 fighter moved from Shensi to Chahar
                                          
                                              Combat - Chinese
                                                  Battle in Chahar
                                                      Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                                                      Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                                                          Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                          1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
                                                          1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
                                                          Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
                                                      Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                                      Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                                                      Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                                                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                                          
                                              Non Combat Move - Chinese
                                                  Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveChinese: has removed 2 Rails owned by Chinese in Kansu
                                                  1 fighter moved from Chahar to Shensi
                                          
                                              Place Units - Chinese
                                                  5 infantry placed in Shensi
                                          
                                              Turn Complete - Chinese
                                                  Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs
                                                  Objective Advanced Production 1 Infantry: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs
                                          
                                              Purchase Units - British
                                                  British buy 2 Fortifications, 1 UK_LCV, 1 factory_minor, 6 infantry, 2 uk_armours, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_para; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 NavyLendLease; 
                                          
                                              Combat Move - British
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa
                                                  1 artillery moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
                                                  1 uk_armour moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
                                                  1 artillery, 1 transport and 1 uk_armour moved from 72 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                                  1 uk_armour moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
                                                  2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
                                                  1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
                                                  1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
                                                  2 uk_fighters moved from Egypt to Iraq
                                                  1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Iraq
                                                  1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                                  1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                                                  2 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
                                                  1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from India to Shan State
                                                  2 uk_fighters moved from India to Shan State
                                          
                                              Combat - British
                                                  Battle in Iraq
                                                      British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
                                                      Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                                                          British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Iraq, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                                          British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                                                          Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                                          3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq
                                                      British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                                      Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                                                  Battle in Shan State
                                                      British attack with 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
                                                      Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                                                          British roll dice for 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                                                          1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                                                          British roll dice for 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                                                          Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                                                      British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 2 infantry, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                      Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                                                  Trigger Remove All ItaliansParaBoost: has removed 1 italian_paraBoost owned by Italians in Holland Belgium
                                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone
                                          
                                              Non Combat Move - British
                                                  Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Union of South Africa
                                                  2 uk_fighters moved from Shan State to India
                                                  1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to India
                                                  2 infantry moved from Burma to India
                                                  1 artillery moved from Burma to India
                                                  1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                                  1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                                                  1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
                                                  2 uk_fighters moved from Iraq to Egypt
                                                  1 bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
                                                  1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                                                  1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
                                          
                                              Place Units - British
                                                  Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
                                                  Trigger ItaliansParaBoost atHolland Belgium: Italians has 1 italian_paraBoost placed in Holland Belgium
                                                  1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
                                                  2 Fortifications placed in Sumatra
                                                  4 infantry and 1 uk_armour placed in India
                                                  2 infantry and 1 uk_armour placed in Union of South Africa
                                                  1 UK_LCV, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_para placed in United Kingdom
                                          
                                              Turn Complete - British
                                                  Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                                                      Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,1,5,1,3,5,2,2
                                                      Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,3,4,3,5,1,6
                                                  British collect 34 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 36 PUs
                                                  Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 42 PUs
                                                  Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
                                          

                                          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                          Chinese regular : -0.83
                                          Americans regular : -2.67
                                          Japanese regular : -0.17
                                          Neutral_Axis regular : -1.00
                                          British regular : -3.17
                                          

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                                            @johnnycat What to do with the Corleones. Yes, it's a mystery a bit. In OOB, if UK has a successful Taranto Raid, they are often reduced quickly to playing defense in Italy and assisting in defense of France. Along with can-opener attacks in Russia - meaning kill the infantry or two defending a territory so that German panzers can blitz through on their turn. It's possible because with turn order, the Axis can do a 1-2 punch with Italy followed by Germany with only ANZAC far away from their theater between them.

                                            Thankfully HRE gives them more possibilities. I am far from an expert but here's roughly what I see and you are too good sir for me to detail out what you can do with each one of them since I am under pressure in the Med in our current game.

                                            1. They are useful for the ways mentioned in OOB strategy threads. There's multiple threads on the forum discussing what to do with the weakling Italy and all of the suggestions apply in HRE also.
                                            2. Italy is able to build LCVs and Paratroopers both of which can be quite useful for attacking:
                                              a. Caucasus across the Black Sea from Greece
                                              b. Syria from Italy as a gateway to the lucrative Middle East territories.
                                              c. Gibraltar from S. France
                                            3. Since U-Boats are so powerful in HRE and Italy gets a bit more money, the Axis can often clear the Med from UK Navy which then gives Italy some possibilities to rebuild their navy.

                                            Looks like you have already figured out alot of this by the moves you are making but that's about it except that in HRE, you also have a very powerful one-time move called the Italian Takeover. I'll let you figure that one out yourself since you are already advanced in your playing skills. Well - have a swell time with the Mafia - no more help on that topic! 🙂

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