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    How would you rate countries and territories considering realism in big WWII maps.

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    • SchulzS Offline
      Schulz
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      Also I don't think capital cities would represent realism. Soviets wouldn't have collapsed without Moscow.

      Making Rome as captal of Italy does not make sense. Northern Italy or Sicily would be better. But I would still prefer removing capitals in a realistic scenario.

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        I've found another methot to calculate the relatiive values of countries; Just want to share some countries. In this time I have taken into account resources and Indonesia emerged more valuable what do you think?

        1939

        USA: 370.352
        Germany; 187.63
        Slovakia: 4.67
        Hungary: 31.24
        Indonesia: 25.58

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        • SchulzS Offline
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          I'm so sad this thread is seems like abandoned.

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            RogerCooper @Schulz
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            @Schulz I have been cleaning up the new version of the Correlates of War database, which has some interesting data.

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              Would it be possible to rate realistic army positionings for may 1942?

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                RogerCooper @Schulz
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                @Schulz Check out this site West Point Military History Atlas

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                • SchulzS Offline
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                  WW1 Datas but it has to be remembered that with a realistic 1914 scenario, Allies overall income shoul still be reduced not just because of balance purpose, because the stats do not show some CP advantages like being able to rapidly shift troops from one to another, isolated Russia with Ottomans entry into war, British naval/colonial expenses and American unpreparedness etc...

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                  • RogerCooperR Offline
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                    Interesting figures. I assume that Paul Kennedy was using the Correlates of War database.

                    It is worth noting that versions of Axis & Allies after the Anniversary edition have favored the Axis because the US's huge economy is nerfed.

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                    • SchulzS Offline
                      Schulz
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                      No idea why do they always nerf the USA to too much. They could still make balanced games with USA nerfed more moderately.

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                        RogerCooper @Schulz
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                        @Schulz said in How would you rate countries and territories considering realism in big WWII maps.:

                        No idea why do they always nerf the USA to too much. They could still make balanced games with USA nerfed more moderately.

                        Overcompensating for the bias towards the Allies in Classic edition. In small map games, the problem is more a weak Russia than a weak USA.

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                        • SchulzS Offline
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                          I don't like having Russia significantly weaker than Japan either. But I do believe Germany should always be stronger than Russia even in pre-barbarossa borders and Germany should be 75% or 2 times stronger than Russia in 1942 set up.

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                            RogerCooper @Schulz
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                            @Schulz The East Front had on odd dynamic historically. German armies overperformed compared to their resources while the Russians underperformed. On the other hand, the German war production was inefficient compared to the Russians and Americans.

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                              Germany had also overall more natural resources than the Soviets such as coal, iron ore and aluminium. The Lend Lease provided the Soviets opportunity to focus some specific areas, whereas German war production became very efficient after exerting total war economy in 1943 and 1944.

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                                RogerCooper @Schulz
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                                @Schulz According to John Ellis,Germany produced 12,063 tanks in 1943 and 19,002 tanks in 1944. An improvement from earlier in the war but still behind Russia with 24,089 & 28,963 respectively. The efficiency gap was still there.

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                                  Its true Germany had an efficiency problem before mid 1943 because they were too late to exert total war economy and failed to efficiently profit from the occupied territories but they overcomed when Speer got in charge of German military production.

                                  I don't think the Soviets could have outproduced Germany had the Western Allies remained neutral. Trucks, trains, food, aviation fuel, clothes, raw materials, medicine, military vehicles etc... all gave the Soviets to mostly focus on a few production areas whereas Germany was unable to do it because of also dealing with the Western Allies. Plus strategic bombing campaigns.

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