A WWI scenario design based loosely on NML & TWW



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    @schulz Looks good. Helps to have some one who knows the regional history of a particular area.

    Though I do not understand why you would change Kuwait to Basra. As Kuwait it can be set up as a British holding.

    I am also probably going to leave Baghdad as the city. Since Mosul was a much smaller city at the time.



  • It depends I was referring from http://www.wikizeroo.net/index.php?q=aHR0cHM6Ly90ci53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvVmlsYXlldA

    Kuwait had exactly the same situation with Qatar. If you count Qatar as Ottoman territory then Kuwait also should be count as Ottoman territory too. But none of them was under Ottman rule. Yes, Kuwait should be remain as Kuwait if it is under British protectorate. Though the Kuwaiti ruler supported the Ottoman Empire. From wiki;

    "During World War I, the British Empire imposed a trade blockade against Kuwait because Kuwait's ruler supported the Ottoman Empire.[68][69][70] The British economic blockade heavily damaged Kuwait's economy.[70]"



  • If you leave Baghdad as the city then Diyarbekir should probably be Mosul.


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    Redid some of the Ottoman Empire to make a bit more sense to how it was laid out.

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    And yes while the British may have blockaded the Kuwait port. It was still a British Protectorate from what I can find.

    "The Sheikhdom of Kuwait became a British protectorate in 1899 (until 1961) after the Anglo-Kuwaiti Agreement of 1899 was signed between Sheikh Mubarak Al Sabah and the British government in India due to severe threats to Kuwait's independence from the Ottoman Empire. "



  • Pro Ottoman emirate of Jabal Shammar was located in An Nafud but you can just ignore it if you want also Sinai was also part of British Egypt.


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    @schulz said in A WWI scenario design based loosely on NML & TWW:

    Pro Ottoman emirate of Jabal Shammar was located in An Nafud but you can just ignore it if you want also Sinai was also part of British Egypt.

    Most of the Sinai Peninsula was occupied by Ottoman and German forces pretty much at the outset of the war as the British had set up their defensive line pretty much at edge of the Suez Canal.



  • @Hepps I feel competent in the geography of Austria-Hungary, and to a lesser extent in that of the Russian Empire. I speak a little Russian and I did a ton of research for the Russian Civil War map.

    The division of Ukraine looks sensible, though I'd name the territories properly, instead of NSEW Ukraine.

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    The territories in the Russian Heartland and the Caucasus region are difficult to find names for, they don't reflect the historical region boundaries too well.



  • @Hepps A sketch of how I would do the territories. Yellow territories are less important, they can be divided up between neighbours or added as separate territories depending on the desired granularity.

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    @schulz Here depends on where you are heading, and if you want to have like Moskva, then yes, I suppose. But in any English map of WWI Instanbul would be called Constantinople, just as Iran would be called Persia.


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    @cernel and @Schulz

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg

    I would have thought it would have been Constantinople as well after pouring over maps. But I thought it wiser to not argue with a Turk on the matter. 🙂



  • Well in this case the other Turkish cities should be named in English too but I don't know how are they called in English. For example Adana is located in Historical Cilicia but this term has never been used in Ottoman era but geographically it is true.



  • I think Bolsheviks should not be a controllable combatant like it is in NML because they become useless when Russia is defeated. I suggest you using the concept of Age of Tribes Primeval. There is "nature" faction but none of player is able to control them.


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    @schulz This is something that presents a bit of an issue since a random AI controlled power can be very erratic and unreliable. I am certainly open to suggestions and input on this. As of yet I have yet to make a decision on this.



  • Agree, AI controlled power is unreliable, But Bolsheviks don't have many options and it prevents AI playing more worse, AI is not as bad as on ground it is in sea AI Bolsheviks would play a bit worse than Human but you can compensate it by boosting Bolsheviks a little bit.


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    @Hepps, I knew it. You are deflecting from GD once again 😃


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    @wirkey Augmenting. 🙂


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    So here is a snap shot of how some more details from a more refined version of the map with economic fine tuning already done. For those familiar with TWW you will understand the picture pretty much immediately.

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    the blue territories represent Protectorates. 0_1541173265957_British Protectorate.png

    While they remain protectorates the controlling nation will not earn PU from the territory. If captured by the enemy, the protectorate is destroyed. If subsequently liberated by the original owner... it no longer is a protectorate and they will then begin to earn PU from it.

    So as setup currently... British Colonial India income becomes 19PU.



  • I'am glad Persian Gulf doesn't have its separate sea zone. In nml; trying to invade the Gulf is troublesome and becomes almost impossible when Turkey research Late Fighter. Really good job.

    Ir protectorates liberated by the original owner... it should still stay as protectorate I think otherwise Ottomans would never attack protectorates.

    I didn't know that some British Indian territories were under British protectorate.

    Is Cyprus under British protectorate?


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    @schulz said in A WWI scenario design based loosely on NML & TWW:

    I'am glad Persian Gulf doesn't have its separate sea zone. In nml; trying to invade the Gulf is troublesome and becomes almost impossible when Turkey research Late Fighter. Really good job.

    Persian Gulf is its own Sea zone. The issues with the role of fighters is addressed with how fighters will function. (Hint they are dramatically different from what you are used to).

    If protectorates liberated by the original owner... it should still stay as protectorate I think otherwise Ottomans would never attack protectorates.

    The idea is that the Ottomans will not really have a choice. Economically they are in a situation where they will need the income. Furthermore... allowing the British to have a permanent beach head on the Arabian peninsula might not be in their best interest if they ever want to be victorious.

    I didn't know that some British Indian territories were under British protectorate.

    India was a very complex colonial empire that developed over a long period of time. Here is a view of how it was defined near the time of WW I...

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    Is Cyprus under British protectorate?

    Yes that was part of the design.

    Furthermore there will be protectorates located in other area's around the world. Here is a sample of Africa...

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