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    Dragon War 1.2.3 - redrum (Evil) vs Black_Elk (Good)

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    • Black_ElkB Offline
      Black_Elk
      last edited by Black_Elk

      Well, looks like the Dwarves are toast. Didn't catch that sz 28 connection. Live and learn I guess lol

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      • redrumR Offline
        redrum Admin @Black_Elk
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        @Black_Elk That was the shortest couple of hours I've ever seen 🙂

        Non-blocking ships would be interesting but that would probably make amphibious assaults even more OP. I think it would essentially lead to a stack fest in every capital as there would be no way to block the opposing fleet.

        Yeah, I was guessing you either missed the connection or didn't realize how many units I could transport.

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        • Black_ElkB Offline
          Black_Elk
          last edited by Black_Elk

          Hehe traffic was so horrid, I decided to stop by my house on the way back to the shop, to fire off a turn. Probably have to stay a bit longer tonight, but least this way I can see the hound dog for a few minutes and make a cup of coffee.

          Yeah, I suppose that's true. I'm honestly not so sure what the best approach is. Right now it seems pretty easy to get cut off. Maybe if there was a more expedient way to expand naval production that might do the trick? I suppose Dwarves aren't meant to do much sailing around, but kind of running into the same issue with the Humans. Probably better to bang into the goblins a bit sooner, since they seem to be hording up pretty quicklike now

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          • redrumR Offline
            redrum Admin
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            TripleA Turn Summary: Greenskins round 5

            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

            Game History

            Round: 5
            
                Combat Move - Greenskins
                        Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
                    1 Lgt-Infantry moved from West Winterpass to Eastern White Slopes
                          Greenskins take Eastern White Slopes from Murlocs
                    1 Auxiliaries and 1 Monoreme moved from Sea Zone 70 to Sea Zone 69
                    1 Auxiliaries moved from Sea Zone 69 to Wetwood
                          Greenskins take Wetwood from Murlocs
                    1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Pontic Desert to South Western Pontic Desert
                          Greenskins take Western Pontic Desert from Gnolls
                    1 Crow-Swarm moved from Sea Zone 70 to South Western Pontic Desert
                    1 Rangers moved from Godheim Reach to Doomed Passage
                          Greenskins take Northern Wilds from Elves
                          Greenskins take Doomed Passage from Elves
                    1 Spearmen moved from North Eastern Pontic Desert to Northern Wilds
                    1 Rangers moved from Dathic West to High Mocrag
                          Greenskins take High Mocrag from Ogres
                    1 Auxiliaries moved from Halefoss Mountains to Wetshore
                          Greenskins take Wetshore from Murlocs
                    1 Monoreme moved from Sea Zone 67 to Sea Zone 72
                    1 Auxiliaries and 1 General moved from Orcengor to Sea Zone 72
                    1 Auxiliaries and 1 Hvy-Infantry moved from Dusty Mountains to Dusty Heights
                    1 Rangers moved from Warg Caves to Orcengor
                    1 Auxiliaries and 1 General moved from Sea Zone 72 to Dusty Heights
                    1 Rangers moved from Orcengor to Dathic East
            
                Combat - Greenskins
                    Battle in South Western Pontic Desert
                        Greenskins attack with 1 Crow-Swarm and 1 Lgt-Cavalry
                        Elves defend with 1 Auxiliaries and 1 Hvy-Infantry
                            Greenskins roll dice for 1 Crow-Swarm and 1 Lgt-Cavalry in South Western Pontic Desert, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.63 expected hits
                            Elves roll dice for 1 Auxiliaries and 1 Hvy-Infantry in South Western Pontic Desert, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.38 expected hits
                            1 Auxiliaries owned by the Elves and 1 Hvy-Infantry owned by the Elves lost in South Western Pontic Desert
                        Greenskins win, taking South Western Pontic Desert from Elves with 1 Crow-Swarm and 1 Lgt-Cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                        Casualties for Elves: 1 Auxiliaries and 1 Hvy-Infantry
            
                Non Combat Move - Greenskins
                    1 Crow-Swarm moved from South Western Pontic Desert to Sea Zone 71
            
                Purchase Units - Greenskins
                    Greenskins buy 2 Crow-Swarms, 1 Knights and 1 Transport-Ship; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 Food; 3 Wood; 1 Metal; 
            
                Place Units - Greenskins
                    1 Knights placed in Orcengor
                    1 Transport-Ship placed in Sea Zone 72
                    1 Crow-Swarm placed in Orcengor
                    1 Crow-Swarm placed in Rackelton
            
                Turn Complete - Greenskins
                    Greenskins collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
                    Units generate 7 Food; Greenskins end with 8 Food
                    Units generate -15 PUs; Greenskins end with 43 PUs
                    Units generate 6 Metal; Greenskins end with 7 Metal
                    Units generate 3 Wood; Greenskins end with 6 Wood
            

            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

            Elves : -0.38
            Greenskins : 1.38
            

            Savegame

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            • Black_ElkB Offline
              Black_Elk
              last edited by Black_Elk

              What about just moving a couple capitals inland? That might be easier.

              Thematically it would probably make sense for the Dwarves and Goblins to have their capitals in the mountains somewhere instead of on the coast.

              You could just give them a coastal fort so they aren't locked out of the naval game. I think it would give a bit more variety to the factions.

              I think for the good humans and the elves fleets make sense. For the evil humans and undead too I suppose. But when I think of dwarves and goblins in fantasy its usually big land battles that come to mind, in the hills or mountains where there are caves and such.

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              • Black_ElkB Offline
                Black_Elk
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                TripleA Turn Summary: Lionia round 5

                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                Game History

                Round: 5
                
                    Combat Move - Lionia
                        1 Red-Dragon moved from Illyria to Samarkum
                        1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Illyria to Sea Zone 45
                        1 Large-Ship and 1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Sea Zone 45 to Sea Zone 41
                        1 Large-Ship and 1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Sea Zone 41 to Sea Zone 42
                              Lionia take Sea Zone 42 from Pirates
                        1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Sea Zone 42 to Samarkum
                        1 Crusaders moved from Jade Mountains to Lion Heights
                              Lionia take Lion Heights from Barbarians
                        1 Auxiliaries moved from Lionian Plains to Lionport
                        1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Fanebrow to Wolfendale
                              Lionia take Wolfendale from Murlocs
                        2 Hvy-Cavalrys moved from Lionport to Lion Heights
                        1 General moved from Lionport to Lion Heights
                        1 Auxiliaries moved from Freegrass to Lionport
                
                    Combat - Lionia
                        Battle in Samarkum
                            Lionia attack with 1 Lgt-Cavalry and 1 Red-Dragon
                            Gnolls defend with 1 Gnoll, 1 Gnoll-Village, 1 Windmill and 1 Young-Brown-Dragon
                                Lionia roll dice for 1 Lgt-Cavalry and 1 Red-Dragon in Samarkum, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                Gnolls roll dice for 1 Gnoll and 1 Young-Brown-Dragon in Samarkum, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.63 expected hits
                            Units damaged: 1 Red-Dragon owned by the Lionia
                                1 Gnoll owned by the Gnolls lost in Samarkum
                            Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
                            Lionia converts Young-Brown-Dragon into different units
                            Lionia win, taking Samarkum from Gnolls with 1 Lgt-Cavalry and 1 Red-Dragon remaining. Battle score for attacker is 45
                            Casualties for Gnolls: 1 Gnoll
                
                    Non Combat Move - Lionia
                
                    Purchase Units - Lionia
                        Lionia buy 1 Hvy-Cavalry and 1 Lgt-Cavalry; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 6 Food; 2 Wood; 1 Metal; 
                
                    Place Units - Lionia
                        1 Hvy-Cavalry and 1 Lgt-Cavalry placed in Lionport
                
                    Turn Complete - Lionia
                        Lionia collect 39 PUs; end with 45 PUs
                        Units generate 11 Food; Lionia end with 17 Food
                        Units generate -15 PUs; Lionia end with 30 PUs
                        Units generate 3 Wood; Lionia end with 5 Wood
                        Units generate 3 Metal; Lionia end with 4 Metal
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Gnolls : 0.38
                Lionia : 1.00
                

                Savegame

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                • redrumR Offline
                  redrum Admin
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                  TripleA Turn Summary: Undead round 5

                  TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                  Game History

                  Round: 5
                  
                      Combat Move - Undead
                          1 Blue-Dragon moved from Hinderland Settlement to East Parnesis Desert
                          2 Zombiess moved from Zool Twins to Bridge of No Return
                          1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Farhaven to Sea Zone 53
                          1 Large-Ship and 1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Sea Zone 53 to Sea Zone 59
                                Undead take Sea Zone 54 from Pirates
                                Undead take Sea Zone 56 from Lionia
                                Undead take Sea Zone 59 from Pirates
                          1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Sea Zone 59 to Millshire
                          1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Hinderland Settlement to The Hinderlands
                          1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Hinderland Zone 3 to The Hinderlands
                          1 Zombies moved from Plagued Fields to The Hinderlands
                          1 Auxiliaries moved from Necroloft to Sea Zone 49
                          1 Auxiliaries and 1 Small-Ship moved from Sea Zone 49 to Sea Zone 47
                          1 Auxiliaries moved from Sea Zone 47 to Deadrock
                                Undead take Deadrock from Pirates
                  
                      Combat - Undead
                          Battle in Millshire
                          Battle in Bridge of No Return
                              Undead attack with 2 Zombiess
                              Dwarves defend with 1 Gnomes and 1 Mine
                                  Undead roll dice for 2 Zombiess in Bridge of No Return, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                  Dwarves roll dice for 1 Gnomes in Bridge of No Return, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                  1 Gnomes owned by the Dwarves lost in Bridge of No Return
                              Undead win, taking Millshire from Lionia, taking Bridge of No Return from Dwarves with 2 Zombiess remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                              Casualties for Dwarves: 1 Gnomes
                          Battle in The Hinderlands
                              Undead attack with 1 Lgt-Cavalry, 1 Lgt-Infantry and 1 Zombies
                              Ogres defend with 2 Ogres
                                  Undead roll dice for 1 Lgt-Cavalry, 1 Lgt-Infantry and 1 Zombies in The Hinderlands, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.13 expected hits
                                  Ogres roll dice for 2 Ogres in The Hinderlands, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                                  1 Zombies owned by the Undead lost in The Hinderlands
                              1 Lgt-Infantry owned by the Undead and 1 Lgt-Cavalry owned by the Undead retreated to Plagued Fields
                              Ogres win with 2 Ogres remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                              Casualties for Undead: 1 Zombies
                          Battle in East Parnesis Desert
                              Undead attack with 1 Blue-Dragon
                              Dwarves defend with 2 Auxiliariess, 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry
                                  Undead roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon in East Parnesis Desert, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                  Dwarves roll dice for 2 Auxiliariess, 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry in East Parnesis Desert, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.13 expected hits
                                  Undead roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon in East Parnesis Desert, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                  Dwarves roll dice for 2 Auxiliariess, 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry in East Parnesis Desert, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.13 expected hits
                                  1 Auxiliaries owned by the Dwarves lost in East Parnesis Desert
                                  Undead roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon in East Parnesis Desert, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                  Dwarves roll dice for 1 Auxiliaries, 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry in East Parnesis Desert, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.13 expected hits
                                  1 Auxiliaries owned by the Dwarves lost in East Parnesis Desert
                                  Undead roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon in East Parnesis Desert, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                  Dwarves roll dice for 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry in East Parnesis Desert, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.13 expected hits
                                  1 Halflings owned by the Dwarves lost in East Parnesis Desert
                                  Undead roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon in East Parnesis Desert, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                  Dwarves roll dice for 1 Hvy-Infantry in East Parnesis Desert, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.13 expected hits
                              1 Hvy-Infantry owned by the Dwarves lost in East Parnesis Desert
                              Undead win with 1 Blue-Dragon remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                              Casualties for Dwarves: 2 Auxiliariess, 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry
                  
                      Non Combat Move - Undead
                          1 Blue-Dragon moved from East Parnesis Desert to Ironhorn
                          1 General moved from Necroloft to Plagued Fields
                          1 Large-Ship moved from Sea Zone 47 to Sea Zone 49
                          1 Hvy-Infantry moved from Necroloft to Sea Zone 49
                          1 Hvy-Infantry moved from Sea Zone 49 to Haunted Moorland
                          1 Zombies moved from Dreadpass to Zool Twins
                  
                      Purchase Units - Undead
                          Undead buy 1 Giant-Bat, 1 Small-Ship and 5 Woods; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 Food; 2 Wood; 14 Metal; 
                  
                      Place Units - Undead
                          1 Small-Ship placed in Sea Zone 49
                          1 Giant-Bat placed in Necroloft
                  
                      Turn Complete - Undead
                          Undead collect 47 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                          Units generate 9 Food; Undead end with 9 Food
                          Units generate 6 Wood; Undead end with 13 Wood
                          Units generate 12 Metal; Undead end with 26 Metal
                          Units generate -15 PUs; Undead end with 33 PUs
                          Undead creates 1 Zombies in Plagued Fields
                  

                  Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                  Ogres : 0.00
                  Undead : -0.38
                  Dwarves : -0.88
                  

                  Savegame

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                  • Black_ElkB Offline
                    Black_Elk
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                    TripleA Turn Summary: Dwarves round 5

                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                    Game History

                    Round: 5
                    
                        Combat Move - Dwarves
                            1 Gnomes moved from Mebach to Westerfoss
                                  Dwarves take Westerfoss from Ogres
                            1 Gnomes moved from Dol Ulum to Mount Thoril
                            1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Mithrildon to Mount Thoril
                            1 Spearmen moved from Mithrildon to Maragorn
                                  Dwarves take Maragorn from Crowton
                            1 Gnomes moved from Gnomen Lowland to Dol Ulum
                            1 Halflings moved from Halfling Meadows to Gnomen Lowland
                            1 Auxiliaries, 1 Halflings and 1 Hvy-Infantry moved from West Parnesis Desert to Faranwall
                            1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Spectoria to Mount Chaos
                                  Dwarves take Mount Chaos from Murlocs
                    
                        Combat - Dwarves
                            Battle in Mount Thoril
                                Dwarves attack with 1 Gnomes and 1 Lgt-Infantry
                                Kobolds defend with 1 Kobold
                                    Dwarves roll dice for 1 Gnomes and 1 Lgt-Infantry in Mount Thoril, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.63 expected hits
                                    Kobolds roll dice for 1 Kobold in Mount Thoril, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.38 expected hits
                                    1 Gnomes owned by the Dwarves and 1 Kobold owned by the Kobolds lost in Mount Thoril
                                Dwarves win, taking Mount Thoril from Kobolds with 1 Lgt-Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44
                                Casualties for Dwarves: 1 Gnomes
                                Casualties for Kobolds: 1 Kobold
                    
                        Non Combat Move - Dwarves
                    
                        Purchase Units - Dwarves
                            Dwarves buy 1 Hvy-Cavalry and 1 Town; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 2 Food; 2 Wood; 8 Metal; 
                    
                        Place Units - Dwarves
                            Units in Dol Ulum being upgraded or consumed: 1 Village
                            1 Hvy-Cavalry and 1 Town placed in Dol Ulum
                    
                        Turn Complete - Dwarves
                            Dwarves collect 32 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 34 PUs
                            Units generate 9 Wood; Dwarves end with 11 Wood
                            Units generate 4 Food; Dwarves end with 6 Food
                            Units generate 6 Metal; Dwarves end with 14 Metal
                    

                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                    Dwarves : 0.38
                    Kobolds : 0.63
                    

                    Savegame

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                    • Black_ElkB Offline
                      Black_Elk
                      last edited by Black_Elk

                      Maybe the Faranwall location would be interesting for the Dwarven capital territory? Or Mount Thoril might be cool for a Dwarven capital if it belonged to them from the outset. I don't know, Ironhorn forces them into an early naval contest, since the Crow capital is so close, and to me Dwarves on ships just feel a little out of place hehe. I picture them absorbing amphibious invasions along the coast sure, but then drawing the enemy up into the hills, where they can could put up a more protracted battle in their fortified stronholds. Having them set sail to expand doesn't quite match up with the images I have from like Tolkien, D&D and such.

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                      • redrumR Offline
                        redrum Admin @Black_Elk
                        last edited by

                        @Black_Elk Yeah, having some of the capitals inland probably would make sense. Though because ships are so strong right now, it might actually put those nations at a further disadvantage. I guess if you gave them another coastal town that could work though then that would be hard to defend.

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin
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                          TripleA Turn Summary: Crowton round 6

                          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                          Game History

                          Round: 6
                          
                              Combat Move - Crowton
                                  1 unit repaired.
                                  1 Auxiliaries and 1 Hvy-Infantry moved from Doomed Bridge to The Outlands
                                        Crowton take The Outlands from Elves
                                  1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Trinity Coast to Lost Mountains
                                        Crowton take Lost Mountains from Elves
                                  2 Large-Ships and 1 Small-Ship moved from Sea Zone 28 to Sea Zone 21
                                  1 Green-Dragon and 1 Water-Dragon moved from Sea Zone 31 to Sea Zone 21
                                  1 Auxiliaries moved from Stormwood to Oldengard
                                  1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Ironhorn to East Parnesis Desert
                                        Crowton take East Parnesis Desert from Dwarves
                                  1 Spearmen moved from Ironhorn to Kumbadur Hills
                                        Crowton take Kumbadur Hills from Dwarves
                                  1 Marines moved from Ironhorn to Greyhood Holdings
                                        Crowton take Greyhood Holdings from Dwarves
                                  1 Marines moved from Ironhorn to Sea Zone 31
                                  1 Air-Balloon and 1 General moved from Ironhorn to Maragorn
                                  1 Large-Ship and 1 Marines moved from Sea Zone 31 to Sea Zone 26
                                  1 Marines moved from Sea Zone 26 to Maragorn
                          
                              Combat - Crowton
                                  Crowton has abandoned Sea Zone 6 to Pirates
                                  Battle in Maragorn
                                      Crowton attack with 1 Air-Balloon, 1 General and 1 Marines
                                      Dwarves defend with 1 Sawmill and 1 Spearmen
                                          Crowton roll dice for 1 Air-Balloon, 1 General and 1 Marines in Maragorn, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                          Dwarves roll dice for 1 Spearmen in Maragorn, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.38 expected hits
                                          1 Spearmen owned by the Dwarves lost in Maragorn
                                      Crowton win, taking Sea Zone 6 from Elves, taking Maragorn from Dwarves with 1 Air-Balloon, 1 General and 1 Marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                                      Casualties for Dwarves: 1 Spearmen
                                  Battle in Sea Zone 21
                                      Crowton attack with 1 Green-Dragon, 2 Large-Ships, 1 Small-Ship and 1 Water-Dragon
                                      Elves defend with 1 Bireme and 2 Triremes
                                          Crowton roll dice for 1 Green-Dragon, 2 Large-Ships, 1 Small-Ship and 1 Water-Dragon in Sea Zone 21, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                                          Elves roll dice for 1 Bireme and 2 Triremes in Sea Zone 21, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 2.13 expected hits
                                      Units damaged: 1 Water-Dragon owned by the Crowton
                                          1 Bireme owned by the Elves, 2 Triremes owned by the Elves and 1 Small-Ship owned by the Crowton lost in Sea Zone 21
                                      Crowton win, taking Sea Zone 21 from Elves with 1 Green-Dragon, 2 Large-Ships and 1 Water-Dragon remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36
                                      Casualties for Crowton: 1 Small-Ship
                                      Casualties for Elves: 1 Bireme and 2 Triremes
                          
                              Non Combat Move - Crowton
                                  Trigger Small-Ship in Glassville: Crowton has 1 Small-Ship placed in Sea Zone 19
                                  Trigger Small-Ship in Glassville: Crowton has 1 Marines placed in Glassville
                                  1 Green-Dragon moved from Sea Zone 21 to Sea Zone 22
                          
                              Purchase Units - Crowton
                                  Crowton buy 1 Monster; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 4 Food; 5 Wood; 7 Metal; 
                          
                              Place Units - Crowton
                                  1 Monster placed in Ironhorn
                          
                              Turn Complete - Crowton
                                  Crowton collect 43 PUs; end with 46 PUs
                                  Units generate 7 Food; Crowton end with 11 Food
                                  Units generate -30 PUs; Crowton end with 16 PUs
                                  Units generate 6 Wood; Crowton end with 11 Wood
                                  Units generate 6 Metal; Crowton end with 13 Metal
                          

                          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                          Crowton : 2.00
                          Elves : 0.88
                          Dwarves : -0.38
                          

                          Savegame

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                            Black_Elk
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                            TripleA Turn Summary: Elves round 6

                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                            Game History

                            Round: 6
                            
                                Combat Move - Elves
                                    1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Baldor Castle to Northern Baldoria
                                          Elves take Northern Baldoria from Barbarians
                                    1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Northern Baldoria to Baldor Castle
                                    1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Durlan Ranges to Durlan Steppes
                                    1 Wood-Elves moved from Oorsik Forest to Oorsik Tirith
                                    3 Auxiliariess, 1 General and 2 Wood-Elvess moved from Winterash to Maningscar
                                          Elves take Maningscar from Crowton
                            
                                Combat - Elves
                            
                                Non Combat Move - Elves
                            
                                Purchase Units - Elves
                                    Elves buy 1 Ballista and 1 Catapult; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 6 Food; 1 Wood; 1 Metal; 
                            
                                Place Units - Elves
                                    1 Ballista and 1 Catapult placed in Athondir
                            
                                Turn Complete - Elves
                                    Elves collect 36 PUs; end with 40 PUs
                                    Units generate 3 Metal; Elves end with 4 Metal
                                    Units generate 6 Food; Elves end with 12 Food
                                    Units generate 9 Wood; Elves end with 10 Wood
                                    Units generate -15 PUs; Elves end with 25 PUs
                            

                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                            Savegame

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                            • Black_ElkB Offline
                              Black_Elk
                              last edited by

                              Not really sure that the Good guys can do anything at this point to turn it around. That sea dragon is a beast, my fleets got worked hehe

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                                redrum Admin
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                                TripleA Turn Summary: Greenskins round 6

                                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                                Game History

                                Round: 6
                                
                                    Combat Move - Greenskins
                                            Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
                                        1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from South Western Pontic Desert to East Savanna
                                              Greenskins take East Savanna from Elves
                                        1 Rangers moved from Doomed Passage to North Savanna
                                              Greenskins take North Savanna from Elves
                                        1 Spearmen moved from Northern Wilds to East Lost Mountains
                                              Greenskins take East Lost Mountains from Barbarians
                                        1 Auxiliaries moved from Wetwood to Kallingholt
                                              Greenskins take Kallingholt from Murlocs
                                        1 Rangers moved from High Mocrag to Ogreville
                                              Greenskins take Ogreville from Ogres
                                        1 Rangers moved from Dathic East to Drake Peninsula
                                              Greenskins take Wild Mire from Murlocs
                                              Greenskins take Drake Peninsula from Murlocs
                                        1 Auxiliaries moved from Wetshore to Scorpion Coast
                                              Greenskins take Scorpion Coast from Murlocs
                                        1 Crow-Swarm moved from Sea Zone 71 to Morassia
                                        1 Crow-Swarm moved from Rackelton to Morassia
                                        1 Crow-Swarm moved from Orcengor to Morassia
                                        1 General and 1 Hvy-Infantry moved from Dusty Heights to Sea Zone 72
                                        2 Auxiliariess moved from Dusty Heights to Sea Zone 72
                                        1 Auxiliaries moved from Orcengor to Sea Zone 72
                                        3 Auxiliariess, 1 General, 1 Hvy-Infantry, 1 Monoreme and 1 Transport-Ship moved from Sea Zone 72 to Sea Zone 66
                                              Greenskins take Sea Zone 66 from Pirates
                                        3 Auxiliariess, 1 General and 1 Hvy-Infantry moved from Sea Zone 66 to Morassia
                                        1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Eastern White Slopes to Sea Zone 69
                                        1 Lgt-Infantry and 1 Monoreme moved from Sea Zone 69 to Sea Zone 66
                                        1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Sea Zone 66 to Morassia
                                        1 Knights moved from Orcengor to Godheim
                                        1 Rangers moved from Orcengor to Godheim Reach
                                        1 Rangers moved from Warg Caves to Orcengor
                                
                                    Combat - Greenskins
                                        Battle in Morassia
                                            Greenskins attack with 3 Auxiliariess, 3 Crow-Swarms, 1 General, 1 Hvy-Infantry and 1 Lgt-Infantry
                                            Murlocs defend with 5 Murlocs, 1 Murloc-Village, 1 Sawmill and 1 Young-White-Dragon
                                                Greenskins roll dice for 3 Auxiliariess, 3 Crow-Swarms, 1 General, 1 Hvy-Infantry and 1 Lgt-Infantry in Morassia, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                                                Murlocs roll dice for 5 Murlocs and 1 Young-White-Dragon in Morassia, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.88 expected hits
                                                4 Murlocs owned by the Murlocs and 1 Auxiliaries owned by the Greenskins lost in Morassia
                                                Greenskins roll dice for 2 Auxiliariess, 3 Crow-Swarms, 1 General, 1 Hvy-Infantry and 1 Lgt-Infantry in Morassia, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 3.13 expected hits
                                                Murlocs roll dice for 1 Murloc and 1 Young-White-Dragon in Morassia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.88 expected hits
                                                1 Murloc owned by the Murlocs lost in Morassia
                                            Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
                                            Greenskins converts Young-White-Dragon into different units
                                            Greenskins win, taking Morassia from Murlocs with 2 Auxiliariess, 3 Crow-Swarms, 1 General, 1 Hvy-Infantry and 1 Lgt-Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 174
                                            Casualties for Greenskins: 1 Auxiliaries
                                            Casualties for Murlocs: 5 Murlocs
                                
                                    Non Combat Move - Greenskins
                                        2 Crow-Swarms moved from Morassia to Sea Zone 66
                                
                                    Purchase Units - Greenskins
                                        Greenskins buy 1 Crow-Swarm, 1 Hvy-Infantry and 10 Woods; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 0 Food; 4 Wood; 1 Metal; 
                                
                                    Place Units - Greenskins
                                        1 Crow-Swarm placed in Rackelton
                                        1 Hvy-Infantry placed in Orcengor
                                
                                    Turn Complete - Greenskins
                                        Greenskins collect 71 PUs; end with 78 PUs
                                        Units generate 12 Wood; Greenskins end with 26 Wood
                                        Units generate 11 Food; Greenskins end with 11 Food
                                        Units generate -15 PUs; Greenskins end with 63 PUs
                                        Units generate 6 Metal; Greenskins end with 7 Metal
                                

                                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                Greenskins : 1.38
                                Murlocs : -1.75
                                

                                Savegame

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                                  redrum Admin @Black_Elk
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                                  @Black_Elk Yeah, its pretty much just red with their dragons left for the good side at this point. Both the elves and dwarves are pretty weak with no fleet now. I also just snagged the last dragon so that evil has 1, 3, 4, and 5. Green also has a massive income now and should be able to buy 4-5 units per turn moving forward.

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                                    Getting control of a dragon quickstyle seems to be the ticket for an early press. Seems to be easier to capture a dragon if you have already dragon. Wonder if maybe each team should just get one to start. Or have a hatchling that improves over time like Frostion mentioned

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                                      @Black_Elk Actually I mentioned the hatchling with food upkeep 😉

                                      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                        Dragons are supposed to be strong, but not so strong that they are unbeatable. Maybe instead of autohealing, it could cost food to heal them. Or alternatively they must just be toned down in stats.

                                        Anyway, when I get time to try to use the TUV attachment for the AI neutrals, the AI will not be so defensive from start. That will probably also change the map a lot. Maybe the young dragons will not let themselves be captured so easily, and maybe go on the offensive themselves.

                                        Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                          redrum Admin @Black_Elk
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                                          @Black_Elk Yeah, the map is a bit snowbally because once you get a dragon its easier to use that dragon to capture another one. Dragon strength and spawn location is something that definitely needs changed. Also making dragons have a bit less movement range could help avoid them flying all over the map as 6 movement plus being able to "kamikaze" gives them about half the map range.

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                                            TripleA Turn Summary: Lionia round 6

                                            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Dragon War, version: 1.2.3

                                            Game History

                                            Round: 6
                                            
                                                Combat Move - Lionia
                                                    1 unit repaired.
                                                    1 Hvy-Cavalry and 1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Lionport to Orangerock Mountains
                                                          Lionia take Orangerock Mountains from Kobolds
                                                    1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon moved from Samarkum to Ironhorn
                                                    1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Samarkum to Sea Zone 42
                                                    1 Large-Ship and 1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Sea Zone 42 to Sea Zone 36
                                                          Lionia take Sea Zone 37 from Crowton
                                                          Lionia take Sea Zone 36 from Crowton
                                                    1 Lgt-Cavalry moved from Sea Zone 36 to Greyhood Holdings
                                                    1 Hvy-Cavalry moved from Lion Heights to Farhaven
                                                          Lionia take Farhaven from Undead
                                                    1 Hvy-Cavalry moved from Lion Heights to Illyria
                                                    1 Crusaders moved from Jade Mountains to Illyria
                                                    1 Crusaders and 1 General moved from Lion Heights to Jade Mountains
                                                    1 Lgt-Infantry moved from Wolfendale to Grand Peaks
                                                          Lionia take Grand Peaks from Kobolds
                                            
                                                Combat - Lionia
                                                    Battle in Greyhood Holdings
                                                        Lionia attack with 1 Lgt-Cavalry
                                                        Crowton defend with 1 Marines
                                                            Lionia roll dice for 1 Lgt-Cavalry in Greyhood Holdings, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.38 expected hits
                                                            Crowton roll dice for 1 Marines in Greyhood Holdings, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                            1 Marines owned by the Crowton lost in Greyhood Holdings
                                                        Lionia win, taking Greyhood Holdings from Crowton with 1 Lgt-Cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                                                        Casualties for Crowton: 1 Marines
                                                    Battle in Ironhorn
                                                        Lionia attack with 1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon
                                                        Crowton defend with 1 Capital-City, 1 Castle and 1 Monster; Undead defend with 1 Blue-Dragon
                                                            Lionia roll dice for 1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon in Ironhorn, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.38 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Blue-Dragon owned by the Undead
                                                            Crowton roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon, 1 Castle and 1 Monster in Ironhorn, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Red-Dragon owned by the Lionia and 1 Brown-Dragon owned by the Lionia
                                                            Lionia roll dice for 1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon in Ironhorn, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.38 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Blue-Dragon owned by the Undead
                                                            Crowton roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon, 1 Castle and 1 Monster in Ironhorn, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Red-Dragon owned by the Lionia
                                                            Lionia roll dice for 1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon in Ironhorn, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.38 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Blue-Dragon owned by the Undead
                                                            Crowton roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon, 1 Castle and 1 Monster in Ironhorn, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Red-Dragon owned by the Lionia
                                                            1 Monster owned by the Crowton lost in Ironhorn
                                                            Lionia roll dice for 1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon in Ironhorn, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 1.38 expected hits
                                                            Crowton roll dice for 1 Blue-Dragon and 1 Castle in Ironhorn, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.88 expected hits
                                                        Units damaged: 1 Red-Dragon owned by the Lionia
                                                        1 Blue-Dragon owned by the Undead lost in Ironhorn
                                                        Lionia win with 1 Brown-Dragon and 1 Red-Dragon remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                                                        Casualties for Crowton: 1 Monster
                                                        Casualties for Undead: 1 Blue-Dragon
                                            
                                                Non Combat Move - Lionia
                                            
                                                Purchase Units - Lionia
                                                    Lionia buy 1 Crossbowmen and 2 Mariness; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 2 Food; 0 Wood; 0 Metal; 
                                            
                                                Place Units - Lionia
                                                    1 Crossbowmen and 2 Mariness placed in Lionport
                                            
                                                Turn Complete - Lionia
                                                    Lionia collect 45 PUs; end with 51 PUs
                                                    Units generate 6 Metal; Lionia end with 6 Metal
                                                    Units generate 8 Food; Lionia end with 10 Food
                                                    Units generate -15 PUs; Lionia end with 36 PUs
                                                    Units generate 3 Wood; Lionia end with 3 Wood
                                            

                                            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                            Crowton : 0.38
                                            Lionia : 1.13
                                            

                                            Savegame

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