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    Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

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    • ubernautU Offline
      ubernaut Moderators @ubernaut
      last edited by ubernaut

      yeah i think it is some kind of map bug it never gives you the withdrawal option after the first round no matter what you do with the sub, it lets you retreat in subsequent rounds but for whatever reason you have to go at least 2 rounds with this battle:

      autosaveBeforeBattle.tsvg

      additional info: unless the sub is taken as a hit in the first round then the bug will not occur

      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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      • ubernautU Offline
        ubernaut Moderators
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        another thing i noticed is that eastern karelia is missing its coastline attribute.

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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        • redrumR Offline
          redrum Admin @ubernaut
          last edited by

          @ubernaut Eastern Karelia missing coast territory effect does seem like an oversight unless @Hepps has some reason that us normal folks aren't thinking of. I'll let him confirm before adding it to the list of things to fix.

          I'll try to eventually take a look at your save game and sub retreating issues. There were some fixes in the pre-release so its possible that its already resolved (not sure if you tested with the pre-release as well?).

          TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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          • ubernautU Offline
            ubernaut Moderators @redrum
            last edited by

            @redrum no i havent, pretty much only run stable. 😛

            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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            • wirkeyW Offline
              wirkey Moderators
              last edited by

              I found another bug:

              Vichy ships give support to german amphibious assaults

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              • redrumR Offline
                redrum Admin @wirkey
                last edited by

                @wirkey what do you mean by give support?

                TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                • ubernautU Offline
                  ubernaut Moderators @redrum
                  last edited by

                  @redrum bombards didnt realize that was a bug

                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  • prastleP Offline
                    prastle Moderators Admin @ubernaut
                    last edited by prastle

                    @ubernaut The real ? is ? Are Vichy ships allowed to give support? during an amphibious. I would suspect yes and it is not a bug.

                    If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                    • wirkeyW Offline
                      wirkey Moderators @prastle
                      last edited by

                      @prastle @Hepps I thought it was a bug. Maybe it is meant that way. But I feel it should be a bug. But no big deal. The only time this can happen is if Germany makes an amphib assault on Sardinia from SZ 44

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators @wirkey
                        last edited by

                        @wirkey Some things are beyond the scope of even @redrum 's vast foresight.

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                          Hepps Moderators
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                          And I am not even sure if I have an opinion on the matter at this point. Hadn't really even considered the possibilities.

                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                          • ubernautU Offline
                            ubernaut Moderators
                            last edited by

                            is it normal that a neutral territory (southern sweden) should be switching back to the original owner if the capital is still controlled by opposing forces?

                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                              Hepps Moderators @ubernaut
                              last edited by

                              @ubernaut Yes the neutrals return to the original owner if liberated regardless of whether they control their Capital or not.

                              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                              Hepster

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                              • ubernautU Offline
                                ubernaut Moderators @Hepps
                                last edited by

                                @Hepps thanks for clarifying that. 🙂 curious why it works that way.

                                "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                  Hendriks1 @ubernaut
                                  last edited by

                                  @Hepps
                                  Strategic bombing. Version 2.8.0.6 (i think, def not latest map).
                                  Since my first UK and US serious bombing of Germany, i’ve had “odd” results. 3 improved us bombers..hits: 0 0 2
                                  4 improved: 2 0 0 3
                                  4 improved, 2 advanced; 1 improved AA casualty; 3 0 0 2 4
                                  Etc etc, too many non hits? I know about the 33% miss change if normal, 25% if improved and NA if advanced = 0-12 range.
                                  Was or is something fishy going on? Totally useless this bombing...

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                                  • M Offline
                                    mattbarnes
                                    last edited by

                                    SZ27 seems to be linked to Northern Germany. Surely if an enemy holds Copenhagen, that should prevent a landing from SZ27 to Northern Germany?

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                                    • wirkeyW Offline
                                      wirkey Moderators @Hepps
                                      last edited by

                                      @Hepps @ubernaut all territories return to the original owner, even if that capital is occupied or not. I've been adressing this issue for years...

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                                      • wirkeyW Offline
                                        wirkey Moderators @mattbarnes
                                        last edited by

                                        @mattbarnes 27 is indeed connected to Northern Germany. Copenhagen however only controls movement between 27 and 26

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                                          mattbarnes @wirkey
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirkey indeed that seems to be the case. However, is it logical? Visually, one rather has to sail close to Copenhagen to reach Northern Germany.

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                                            Hepps Moderators @mattbarnes
                                            last edited by

                                            @mattbarnes While looking at the map as drawn in TWW it can very much look as though the proximity of Northern Germany to the Danish Islands is roughly equidistant to that of Mainland Denmark or Sweden. However in reality the choke points created by the straits (between Denmark & Sweden) are far more restricting than that of sailing off the Northern German coast. since one can hug (metaphorically speaking) the German coast and stay close to 20 - 40 km away from any part of what would be considered part of the Danish Islands.

                                            Furthermore, since the mechanic is really meant to embody the ability of being able to block movement through the strait via a defensible area that would offer the ability to mine or torpedo any navigable parts of the straits... This part of the Baltic would not be considered part of that.

                                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                            Hepster

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