⭕ Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring - Official Thread

RogerCooper

@thedog said in Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring - Official Thread:

@rogercooper said Unique units should not be buildable.

It was an easy decision for Ents they take years to grow, so not buildable.

But the nine, got new forms after the the magic surf of the river Bruinen "damagaed" them.
Gandalf the Grey got a new form as Gandalf the White.

So you could say they are buildable, but in this scenario/version you can only build 1.

Having played many games I have never managed to kill all 9 Nazgul, just so I can build another one,
Likewise for the Elven Wizards/Istari, however the AI has killed them all off, so does build one of them.

Those sorts of incidents should be handled as events. Take a look at Greyhawk Wars for a fantasy scenario that feels like a fantasy scenario.

I also like upkeep costs.

RogerCooper

I tried the playing the scenario. Balance seems better and the production restrictions make the game feel more like Middle Earth.

I needed to modify the files a bit, to play under the latest version of the engine. You should your map.yml file to

map_name: middle_earth
games:
- {game_name: 'Lord of the Rings: Middle Earth-Rebalanced', file_name: Lord_of_the_Rings_War_of_the_Ring.xml}

board 3659

Interesting that you decided to make the dwarfs not be able to purchase artillery/zeppelins/berzerkers. Is it to balance the game or is the other version updated

TheDog

@board-3659
The books dont have black powder artillery/zeppelins/berzerkers that was the reason for removing them.

board 3659

@thedog I'm guessing they are in the movie because if not IDK why the other has those things

Cernel

@board-3659 It has been a long time since I saw the movie, but I don't remember anything like those. My best guess is that is taken from Warhammer Fantasy. Also goblins and orks are two names for the same thing in the Lord of the Rings, so the fact that they are differentiated in that game has to come from somewhere else, like Warhammer Fantasy, too.

Or maybe @NinjaWolfHybrid could just tell us what's what, since he/she affirms to be Flanagan, the map-maker.

board 3659

ok thats great thanks

board 3659

For some reason it doesn't appear on the Lobby yet I have it

TheDog

@board-3659
I guess thats because I host it on my Google Drive, so easy compared to Github uploading of maps.

board 3659

@thedog Do you know how to fix it?

TheDog

@board-3659
No is the short answer.

I spent over 3 hours trying to upload a map to Github and failed. As time is precious Im happier being productive and coding/modding a new map "The Shogun" than trying and failing to upload again.

But you could try and upload the zip if you like?

board 3659

@thedog ok I can try, though I have no idea how to use Github

board 3659

@rogercooper yeah like the ents near Saruman were non-aligned until Saruman attacked

ff03k64

@thedog said in Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring - Official Thread:

I spent over 3 hours trying to upload a map to Github and failed. As time is precious Im happier being productive and coding/modding a new map "The Shogun" than trying and failing to upload again.
But you could try and upload the zip if you like?

If I can get this on Github, do you know how to update the file if you make any more changes?

TheDog

@ff03k64
If you can get it on Github that would be great, I will try/learn to update the files.

ff03k64

@thedog Did you change anything besides the xml?

TheDog

@ff03k64
Yes
Removed many units.
Changed PUs icon
Added Game_Notes.png
Changed all nations StandardFlag.png sizes
Maybe other things?

ff03k64

@thedog So it looks like you didn't make any new units? Just removed some? And it looks like you didn't change the map at all? Am I seeing that correctly?

So my thought is to try to add it to the download of middle earth that this is based off of, instead of it's own download.
So, first, do you care?
Second for others that are hopefully reading this, is that a good way to do this? I am not sure how the flag sizes would be affected by doing it this way. Would that make this not work?

TheDog

@ff03k64 said in Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring - Official Thread:

@thedog So it looks like you didn't make any new units? Just removed some? And it looks like you didn't change the map at all? Am I seeing that correctly?

Yes to all the above

So my thought is to try to add it to the download of middle earth that this is based off of, instead of it's own download.
So, first, do you care?

Short answer no, my thoughts are, that for a normal Modder like me, it takes too much time and effort to do a simple task, like upload and maintain a file set.

Second for others that are hopefully reading this, is that a good way to do this? I am not sure how the flag sizes would be affected by doing it this way. Would that make this not work?

The flag size will not affect the game, it will shrink the map main screen if you leave it as is. My NationFlag.png are 24x24px this is the optimum size for many reasons.

Other people please chime in with your thoughts for ff03k64.

ff03k64

@thedog I think if you download the files here it should run.?.?. https://github.com/CharlieAtlas/middle_earth/archive/master.zip

I can use that to make sure I did everything correctly before trying to put it in the official repo. It looks like there are a couple unit images missing. Do you use discord by chance?

edit: more info: did you add any units? or just remove some?