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    • Davor PavlićD Offline
      Davor Pavlić @TheDog
      last edited by Davor Pavlić

      @thedog

      How did you get that error report? This could be useful for me so i can know where the problem is.

      Mine just tells about the error in data centers and nothing else specific.

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      • TheDogT Offline
        TheDog @Davor Pavlić
        last edited by

        @davor-pavlić
        I have 3 versions of TripleA on my PC, all should give the same error message.
        But this came from TripleA-2.5.22294

        Sometimes its best to close TripleA and restart it.

        The error text varies with each error.

        https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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        • Davor PavlićD Offline
          Davor Pavlić @TheDog
          last edited by Davor Pavlić

          @thedog

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          Does the 'Capital' refer to the territory or the player/nation?

          Yea my version of TripleA doesn't show any useful information in error, i can't know where the problem is, it just says what the problem is.

          The confusing thing in this case is that 'Italy' was a territory and a player, so it's hard to figure out what it actually refers to hah

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          • TheDogT Offline
            TheDog
            last edited by

            @davor-pavlić

            Does the 'Capital' refer to the territory or the player/nation?

            Player/nation

            .

            The confusing thing in this case is that 'Italy' was a territory and a player, so it's hard to figure out what it actually refers to hah

            Agreed.

            I would download another version, to see if that gives you more/some error messages.

            TripleA-2.5.22294
            https://triplea-game.org/download/
            or
            version 2.6+
            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases

            I add the version number to the end of the install and the folder to identify it.

            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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            • Davor PavlićD Offline
              Davor Pavlić @TheDog
              last edited by

              @thedog

              Wait, i have 2.5.22294 hahah

              This is how my errors look over and over again while trying to run this

              784bc48e-475d-46ca-b307-7b6764914141-image.png

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              • TheDogT Offline
                TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                last edited by

                @davor-pavlić
                Send me a link to the file set later this evening, I look at it tomorrow morning.

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                https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                • Davor PavlićD Offline
                  Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                  last edited by

                  @thedog

                  here you go
                  https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1d4lOQ2CbHLe_YhN-n6Gy3XuAaWHuE6lX?usp=share_link

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                  • B Offline
                    beelee @Davor Pavlić
                    last edited by

                    @davor-pavlić open your TripleA folder and you'll see "error.log"

                    Screenshot from 2022-12-01 16-28-29.png

                    That should give you some more info. Once you can get the game to actually run, go to the "Debug" top left and hit "Show Console"

                    That will also provide more ingame info.

                    I think there's a thing called a "stacktrace" that has the error info but I don't remember how to do it

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                    • TheDogT Offline
                      TheDog @beelee
                      last edited by TheDog

                      @Davor-Pavlić
                      in the xml
                      line 5420
                      need to add block of code for Eastern Poland

                      line 5426-ish
                      need to add block of code for Southern Italy

                      Then for me it ran without error.

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                      • Davor PavlićD Offline
                        Davor Pavlić
                        last edited by Davor Pavlić

                        @thedog

                        YAAAH i finally got it to work!!

                        So it seemed like changing the things you mentioned wasn't enough, i had an original iron_war downloaded as well, and those two folders were probably messing eachother up because those folders were named the same lol, i never even paid attention to it, but yeah, it is very likely that the problem was the naming of the folders.

                        What i did was i deleted the original iron war, and i unzipped my mod and removed 'master' from the name, and that did the trick, after that i managed to run it.

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                        The baseTile works, buuuut the lines are all weird, the line widths, why is that? The outlines in my map are thicker but when i run it in TripleA some are thinner and some wider.

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                        • TheDogT Offline
                          TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                          last edited by TheDog

                          @davor-pavlić
                          GONGRATS !!!

                          Well done, you got there.

                          As you have realised its very important not to have a conflit of similar naming maps. I find it better to cut and paste maps that are very similar to another folder for "storage" and reference.

                          I really like Notepad++ as you can have reference files on the left and current project on the right.
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                          Back to your game/map.

                          You probably know this
                          View> Show Map Details Turns reliefTiles off/on On can completely over-write baseTiles
                          View> Show Map Blends Shows an alternative "shade" of the reliefTiles map, the parameters are held in map.properties file

                          Hopefully this helps explain the difference in your views/TT border thicknesses.

                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                          • Davor PavlićD Offline
                            Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                            last edited by

                            @thedog

                            Oh right, i forgot about that.

                            One more question and im done for today.

                            How do i move the PU icons on the map?

                            For example take a look at Albania in my screenshot above. I would like to center a PU icon in the territory. I tried going in the centers picker in TripleA so i can find the right coordinates, and i typed those coordinates in pu_place for Albania, but it didnt move the icon in the slightest.

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                            • TheDogT Offline
                              TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                              last edited by TheDog

                              @davor-pavlić
                              Never say,

                              One more question and im done for today.

                              As there will be more 😁

                              How do i move the PU icons on the map?

                              Yes pu_place.txt is the file to edit, did you restart TripleA as some files are dynamic, like xml save and load the map they work, other changes require TripleA to be restarted.

                              Some maps have the PU embedded on the reliefTiles like the 2 Shogun maps.

                              https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                              • Davor PavlićD Offline
                                Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                                last edited by Davor Pavlić

                                @thedog

                                This is it boys and gals, after about a week, i have a modified map with reliefTiles. Few weeks ago this kind of thing seemed absolutely impossible for me to ever do, and now i've learned so much in just a week thanks to this amazingly helpful community!

                                This is the current state of the map in-game, with reliefTiles

                                70f129c8-187e-43c4-8618-a5ea0597418b-image.png

                                Is it perfect? Absolutely not, actually it's probably far from done. As of now, i will have to change the pu icons on the map and unit placing, some smaller territories like Albania and Southern Italy get crowded after 4 units placed. Well there is no avoiding it, TTs are just that small, but ill fine-tune it as much as possible. And ill have to move that capital icon for Italy further down, tbh i don't even know why i changed it's coordinates, most likely by accident.

                                I didn't experiment a lot of with relief outline width resulting in borders being this thick, but ill change it.

                                Will i change anything else to the map? Maybe. Maybe add Malta, maybe add Falklands, maybe fine-tune some territories like Kuwait and British Somaliland make them bit smaller because they weren't that huge.

                                I could easily just call it a day and use this map for myself, but i will look forward that this mod reaches a certain playable standard so that everyone can enjoy it. Technically this map isn't done, so i don't think i would like to close this thread and open a new one in Maps & Mods, atleast not until i make a fully playable version for testing and balacing.

                                Thanks to everyone who is contributing to my project, even though it's not a big deal to some, it means a lot to me.

                                For any further questions and issues i guess i will just keep asking here lol

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                                • TheDogT Offline
                                  TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                                  last edited by TheDog

                                  @davor-pavlić
                                  It works. 😁

                                  Backup your folder
                                  To make your units smaller, in the map.properties is this;
                                  units.scale=1
                                  units.width=60
                                  units.height=54

                                  Change the unit scale to .75 (Save it)

                                  Then run Map creator Tools
                                  Step 2: Map Utilities
                                  Run the Automatic Placement Finder
                                  OK (Info panel)
                                  iron_war (folder name)
                                  File Suggestion answer No
                                  0.75 (Scaling)
                                  61 (60px width +1px padding or more)
                                  55 (54px height +1px padding or more)
                                  This take minutes to complete, go and have a coffee.
                                  Save the place.txt

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                                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                  • Davor PavlićD Offline
                                    Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                                    last edited by

                                    @thedog

                                    It worked!

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