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    • Davor PavlićD Offline
      Davor Pavlić
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      Oh man this XML thing seems tough to crack.

      I've copied my baseTile map so i can go back to it if i mess something up, and on the new copied map i've drawn borders for splitting the TTs, like so :

      28625246-0f06-4b07-9012-be96cdad0d45-image.png

      I haven't touched anything else for fear of not messing it up lol. So i didn't do centers and polygons for this updated map yet, and i think i cant do it anyway because i need to edit the XML first and add the territories.

      I took a look at the documentation (https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/master/docs/map-making/tutorial/creating-custom-map-xml.md), from my understanding, in order to split Italy i could rename 'Italy' into 'North Italy', and add another TT and call it 'South Italy', like so :

      <territory id="South Italy"/>

      Is that right?

      Then it seems i need to make connections to other TTs that it is bordering, which i could do like this i guess :

      <connection t1="North Italy" t2="South Italy"/>

      I'm still scared to attempt this to not make a huge mess hahah

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      • TheDogT Online
        TheDog @Davor Pavlić
        last edited by TheDog

        @davor-pavlić
        These files are a set, they must all match the changes you make.
        centers.txt
        place.txt
        polygons.txt
        MapName.xml

        These files can be edited manually, if you work out the new entries.
        centers.txt
        place.txt
        MapName.xml (Yes to Northern & Southern Italy)

        However polygons.txt is too complicated and should be generated by the map tools.

        Notepad++ will aid you as its a good text editor.
        https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/

        https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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        • Davor PavlićD Offline
          Davor Pavlić @TheDog
          last edited by Davor Pavlić

          @thedog

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          I keep getting this whenever i attempt to run Automatic Placement Finder. I've removed italy from XML and added 'Northern Italy' and 'Southern Italy', included them in XML, connected them to neighboring territories, and i still get this.

          Note : I started getting this as soon as 'Italy' was removed from centers, so im confident i didn't mess anything up in XML editing. It keeps looking for Italy and showing up as error.

          8cbc1e10-ccb8-4471-a37f-5451526c87e8-image.png

          Possible solutions?

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          • TheDogT Online
            TheDog @Davor Pavlić
            last edited by

            @davor-pavlić
            Do you copies of the files you need?

            Then open these 4 files in Notepad++
            centers.txt
            place.txt
            polygons.txt
            MapName.xml

            Search them for just Italy and remove the line with it on, as Italy does not exist anymore.

            Try running Automatic Placement Finder, assuming you have run Polygon grabber.

            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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            • Davor PavlićD Offline
              Davor Pavlić @TheDog
              last edited by

              @thedog

              Okay that took a while. I deleted Italy, East Prussia and Sakhalin lines from centers.txt, polygons.txt, places.txt and ironwar.xml.

              I managed to do the new centers and polygons, finally Automatic Placement Finder ran, and i also deleted the previous baseTiles and replaced them with the new map.

              I tried to give it a go in-game, and it doesn't want to run. This is what i get this time.

              3f920154-09ab-49b0-a1ca-b805b6dde482-image.png

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              • B Offline
                beelee @Davor Pavlić
                last edited by

                @davor-pavlić you might try saving all your current triplea downloadmaps saved games, then delete triplea and install again and just put all the new stuff in.

                Sometimes stuff hides and triplea keeps looking for it. i don't fully understand it but worth a shot

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                • TheDogT Online
                  TheDog @beelee
                  last edited by

                  Try this, I have not read it.
                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/438/solved-game-fails-to-start-no-data-of-type-centers-for-territory

                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                  • Davor PavlićD Offline
                    Davor Pavlić
                    last edited by

                    Nevermind, i didnt delete everything from XML, there are still loads of stuff in there such as unit placements and some attachments that contain ITALY, EAST PRUSSIA and SAKHALIN. The game probably tries to place units in those territories but there aren't any territories named like that.

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                    • Davor PavlićD Offline
                      Davor Pavlić @Davor Pavlić
                      last edited by

                      @davor-pavlić

                      Nope, didnt work, no idea what i am missing.

                      I searched the keywords in the XML, deleted everything, but the game still keeps looking for those territories.

                      Can i send someone the whole folder to check it out? I have no idea what i am missing.

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                        beelee @TheDog
                        last edited by

                        @thedog said in How to modify borders on an existing map:

                        Try this, I have not read it.
                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/438/solved-game-fails-to-start-no-data-of-type-centers-for-territory

                        It seems a naming error which i think 2.6 does different now. At any rate, looks as if Davor still deleting some stuff

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                        • Davor PavlićD Offline
                          Davor Pavlić @beelee
                          last edited by

                          @beelee

                          I took a look at that thread and tbh i cant find any naming issue, especially since it worked
                          until now and i didnt rename anything.

                          I deleted the lines in XML which mentioned Italy, East Prussia and Sakhalin because those territory names no longer exist on my map. For the lines that add units and other attachmebts i changed every single one that again mentioned those territories, with my logic being that the map isnt running because the map keeps looking and placing stuff on non-existant territory.

                          Maybe i missed something somewhere, i dont know.

                          I have a backup copy of Iron War files so its not a big deal if i mess something up big time, but yeah, ill see what i can do tomorrow.

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                            TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                            last edited by

                            @davor-pavlić
                            Zip up your whole wip folder and I will take a look if I have time tomorrow morning otherwise it will be Thursday morning.

                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                              beelee @Davor Pavlić
                              last edited by

                              @davor-pavlić yea sorry meant the referenced thread was about a naming error.

                              It seems triplea is still looking for something you've removed. I've had that happen with other things in the past

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                              • Davor PavlićD Offline
                                Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                                last edited by

                                @thedog

                                Alright ill send it tomorrow when i find the time

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                                • Davor PavlićD Offline
                                  Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                                  last edited by

                                  @thedog

                                  Here's the folder
                                  https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1d4lOQ2CbHLe_YhN-n6Gy3XuAaWHuE6lX?usp=share_link

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                                  • TheDogT Online
                                    TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                                    last edited by TheDog

                                    @davor-pavlić
                                    You need to change Croatia to Yugoslavia in these files;
                                    centers.txt
                                    place.txt
                                    polygons.txt
                                    pu_place.txt

                                    Add Northern & Southern Italy to pu_place.txt

                                    Change Italy to Southern Italy? in vc.txt

                                    In the xml
                                    5157 Change Italy to Northern Italy
                                    5617 Change Italy to Northern Italy
                                    10021 Change Italy to Northern Italy
                                    17730 Change Italy to Northern Italy

                                    There are more but I will let you sort those out.

                                    Post the file set again if you get stuck.

                                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                    • Davor PavlićD Offline
                                      Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                                      last edited by

                                      @thedog

                                      Uuuu i've missed a lot!

                                      I done it now like you said, yeah i missed a lot of stuff lol.

                                      Unfortunately it still shows the same error message 😞

                                      I just triple checked all txt files and xml with a search function, didn't find a single 'Italy, 'East Prussia', 'Croatia' or 'Sakhalin', everything is changed into appropriate new territory names. Of course except the Italy player, i didn't rename the player. I also fixed some border connections because i noticed i didn't have Southern Italy connected to any territories, im not sure if that impacts running the map but i've fixed that, and it still doesnt' run the map.

                                      My lack of experience shows but im doing my best. I think it will take me a while to understand all this regarding the xml editing but once i get it down ill be good to go.

                                      Here i uploaded a folder again, whenever you have time check it out and let me know what i should do
                                      https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1d4lOQ2CbHLe_YhN-n6Gy3XuAaWHuE6lX?usp=share_link

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                                      • TheDogT Online
                                        TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                                        last edited by TheDog

                                        @davor-pavlić
                                        Hey, you are new to this and it is a steep learning curve, keep going, and will become a pro like me. 🙄

                                        xml coding is complicated, there are so many inter linking elements to it.

                                        Search for the hi-lighted text below, the Italy is part of a condition and trigger
                                        line 7161is a Territory (not player/nation) so needs adding a Northern or Southern prefix.
                                        directPresenceTerritories" value="Italy
                                        The above is paired with line 10023

                                        e9c6606d-310e-46a6-a02e-d6e848b4bcb4-image.png

                                        There will probably be more errors like this.

                                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                        • Davor PavlićD Offline
                                          Davor Pavlić @TheDog
                                          last edited by

                                          @thedog

                                          Ah okay i see.

                                          Should i also change the 'directPresenceTerritories' to Northern/Southern Italy as well?

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                                          • TheDogT Online
                                            TheDog @Davor Pavlić
                                            last edited by

                                            @davor-pavlić
                                            Doh, yes I was not clear.

                                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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