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    Tournament of Champions (Season 4) for AA 50 Anniversary '41 version

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      wc_sumpton @Deltium last edited by

      @deltium
      I'm so happy I did not have to make this call. @Deltium and the other judges, well done and well explained.

      Cheers...

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      • prastle
        prastle Moderators Admin @Cernel last edited by prastle

        @cernel I think we have seen it a few times whenever we are chatting and the engine shoots the ground unit 🙂 Thus I am sure this discussion will occur again just possibly without such epic consequences ...

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        • Raville
          Raville last edited by

          0_1520541097673_0-G_Zod Allies vs Raville Axis Non Combat Move After Attack to Japan.JPG 0_1520541105894_1-G_Zod Allies vs Raville Axis calculation Attack to Japan 1st.JPG

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            Beck Moderators last edited by

            @raville are u saying GEN ZOD went into settings of map xml/coding etc while playing u? lol

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              Cernel Moderators last edited by

              I wonder what would be the practice if the misclick would happen not at the very last choice of the battle, as that would be not strictly editable.

              @Deltium
              If not already there, maybe you want to add an official suggestion, for live games, to assure the:
              Game/Engine Settings/Space bar confirms Casualties: "False"

              @General_Zod
              Did you have that setting True or False, during this game? It should be what you have now, if you haven't changed it. Just curious.

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                Cernel Moderators last edited by

                @raville Hopefully a developer will answer you but, meanwhile, I recall Veqryn said that the dice, for live games in the lobby, are rolled by both terminals and somwhat added up to give the actual result (no idea if this is right or how that works, and doubt @General_Zod has an idea, either). For the savegame, of course that can be changed; so, you either have to recall it or take and reload it yourself. General suggestion has always been that, for a strictly competitive match up, the absolutely safe way is PBF on the official TripleA forum (currently, this one).

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                • prastle
                  prastle Moderators Admin @Cernel last edited by

                  @cernel simple point is OOL means nothing in a live game as you just eloquently pointed out it is sadly still possible to click through.

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                    Beck Moderators last edited by

                    @raville i think sticking to edit /no edition problem is your best point,speaking of % of battle and game play and anything else makes u look bad

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                    • prastle
                      prastle Moderators Admin last edited by

                      @general_zod sigh your not being helpful ...

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                      • prastle
                        prastle Moderators Admin last edited by

                        @general_zod I guess i can just see both sides of the story. You clearly knew you needed to save a land unit going into the battle. Apparently you clicked through it while chatting? Either way YOU both AGREED TO NO EDITS! Thus (which i never do since we are all human) you are both correct. You also won a 29% battle to be blunt. So is he wrong with requesting you not to edit?

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                        • General_Zod
                          General_Zod Moderators last edited by

                          @prastle

                          I'm not debating that, anymore.

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                          • prastle
                            prastle Moderators Admin @Raville last edited by prastle

                            @raville @General_Zod I hope you both bury the hatchet and move on. I will not overrule the judges decision but i will say this OOL MEANS nothing in a live game.. PBEM yes In alive game the player is responsible for his own ool.

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                            • General_Zod
                              General_Zod Moderators @prastle last edited by

                              @prastle

                              Hypthetical question.

                              If an attacking player chooses fighters and bombers as casualties before a tank for 2 combat rounds. What do you think that same player will do on combat round 3 of that same battle? Note this player destroyed all enemy units on the above mentioned combat round 3. Also note the territory is a capital. Also note this likely ends the game.

                              Hmm, I wonder will the player all of a sudden change his established pattern of ool?

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                              • prastle
                                prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod last edited by

                                @general_zod this isn't the point gz. It's a live game you pick your own OOL. The main reason I am debating this is @cernel and I pointed this out years ago. We were ignored. Which means this will continue to occur every tournament forever unless all tourney players agree to allow minor edits.

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                                • prastle
                                  prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod last edited by

                                  @general_zod You are fully aware of this problem. Which means you chatted through your click? I wasn't the one that agreed to no edits... Thus I can see both sides of the fence..

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                                  • General_Zod
                                    General_Zod Moderators @prastle last edited by

                                    @prastle Just answer the above question. And I will be happy.

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                                    • prastle
                                      prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod last edited by

                                      @general_zod the issue is not about whether anyone thought they didn't understand what you were doing. (Thus why the judges approved your win.) the issue is whether or not an agreed rule base between two opponents can be overruled by the judges ... Especially when you clearly knew what you were doing before the battle commenced... So to extrapolate further does this mean every game that is agreed to no edits needs a ruling from now on in every toc if I accidentally clicked through it? Or does this mean they will fix the engine finally so that ya cant click through while chatting?

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                                        Cernel Moderators @General_Zod last edited by

                                        @general_zod I don't think that question needs an answer as I think it has been always clear that nobody (comprising @Raville ) doubts that you misclicked. Nobody is contesting that.
                                        @Raville just argued that it was in his right to take advantage of your obvious mistake, that he always knew was a mistake.

                                        I don't believe it is currently against our rules accusing somebody else to cheat, either in forum or in the lobby, or requesting clarifications / assurance about that (not up to me to make the rules; so just add that to the rules, at anyone who can do that, if you want to have it as a forum / lobby rule, or open a discussion in Bunker about adding that rule).

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                                        • General_Zod
                                          General_Zod Moderators @Cernel last edited by

                                          @cernel Mine is set to true. Your suggestion sounds worth noting. Since we all chat during live games.

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                                          • prastle
                                            prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod last edited by

                                            @general_zod correct and its still broken

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