TWW 3.0.9? NTSH (ax) v (al) ubernaut Game 4
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TripleA Turn Summary: Usa round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Total World War: December 1941 3.0
Game History
Round: 3 Research Technology - Usa Usa spend 0 on tech rolls Usa roll 2,8,1,4,2,9,2,3,1,2,10,3 and gets 0 hits Combat Move - Usa Trigger americanHvyTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to americanHeavyTank Trigger americanMecht3: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to americanMech.Infantry Trigger americanTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to americanTank Trigger americanAirtraninfra1: Setting isInfrastructure to false for unitAttachment attached to americanAirTransport Trigger americanAirtraninfra1: Setting attack to 1 for unitAttachment attached to americanAirTransport Trigger americanAirtraninfra1: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy cleared for unitAttachment attached to americanAirTransport Trigger SovietFarEastLLUsa1: Usa takes ownership of territory Soviet Far East Trigger EasternSzechwanLLUsa1: Usa takes ownership of territory Eastern Szechwan Trigger EasternIranLLUsa1: Usa takes ownership of territory Eastern Iran Trigger ArchangelLLUsa1: Usa takes ownership of territory Archangel Trigger MurmanskLLUsa1: Usa takes ownership of territory Murmansk Trigger americanMecht4: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to americanMech.Infantry Trigger americanHvyTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to americanHeavyTank Trigger americanTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to americanTank 1 americanStrategicBomber moved from Cameroon to 61 Sea Zone 1 americanNavalFighter moved from Azores to 61 Sea Zone 1 americanDestroyer moved from 12 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone Combat - Usa Battle in 24 Sea Zone Usa attack with 1 americanDestroyer; Britain loiter and taunt Germany defend with 1 germanSubmarine Usa roll DepthChargeAttack dice in 24 Sea Zone : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits 1 germanSubmarine owned by the Germany submerged Battle in 61 Sea Zone Usa attack with 1 americanNavalFighter and 1 americanStrategicBomber Germany defend with 1 germanSubmarine Usa roll DepthChargeAttack dice in 61 Sea Zone : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits 1 germanSubmarine owned by the Germany submerged Trigger americanMecht1: Setting isLandTransport to true for unitAttachment attached to americanMech.Infantry Trigger americanMecht2: Setting isLandTransport to false for unitAttachment attached to americanMech.Infantry Trigger americanAirtraninfra2: Setting isInfrastructure to true for unitAttachment attached to americanAirTransport Trigger americanAirtraninfra2: Setting attack to 0 for unitAttachment attached to americanAirTransport Trigger americanAirtraninfra2: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy to FROM:Usa for unitAttachment attached to americanAirTransport Trigger EasternIranLLUsa2: Russia takes ownership of territory Eastern Iran Trigger MurmanskLLUsa2: Russia takes ownership of territory Murmansk Trigger ArchangelLLUsa2: Russia takes ownership of territory Archangel Trigger SovietFarEastLLUsa2: Russia takes ownership of territory Soviet Far East Trigger LLquFL2: has removed 1 americanFighter owned by Usa in Queensland Trigger LLquFL1: has removed 1 Pg owned by Britain in Queensland Trigger LLquFL1: Britain has 1 britishFighter placed in Queensland Trigger americanProd1: Usa has 1 Material placed in Washington 1 americanNavalFighter and 1 americanStrategicBomber moved from 61 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 americanAirTransport and 1 americanParatrooper moved from Azores to Gibraltar 1 americanFighter moved from Gilbert Islands to Dutch New Guinea 1 americanFighter moved from Gilbert Islands to Queensland 4 americanMarines moved from Washington to 30 Sea Zone 2 americanInfantrys moved from Eastern US to 36 Sea Zone 1 americanCruiser, 1 americanDestroyer, 4 americanMarines and 2 americanTransports moved from 30 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 americanDestroyer, 2 americanInfantrys and 1 americanTransport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 2 americanInfantrys and 4 americanMarines moved from 39 Sea Zone to Azores 1 americanInfantry and 1 americanMarine moved from Azores to 39 Sea Zone 1 americanCombatEngineer moved from Azores to 39 Sea Zone 1 americanCombatEngineer and 1 americanTransport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 1 americanCombatEngineer moved from 30 Sea Zone to Washington 1 americanBattleship, 1 americanInfantry, 1 americanMarine and 1 americanTransport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 americanInfantry and 1 americanMarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 Material and 1 Truck moved from Central Norway to 12 Sea Zone 1 Material, 1 Truck and 1 americanTransport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone 1 Material and 1 Truck moved from 14 Sea Zone to Archangel 3 americanInfantrys and 1 americanMarine moved from French Guyana to 58 Sea Zone 1 americanDestroyer, 3 americanInfantrys, 1 americanMarine and 2 americanTransports moved from 58 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 3 americanInfantrys and 1 americanMarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to West Africa 3 americanInfantrys and 1 americanMarine moved from Wake Island to 124 Sea Zone 2 americanCarriers, 1 americanCruiser, 4 americanDestroyers, 3 americanInfantrys, 1 americanMarine, 2 americanNavalFighters and 2 americanTransports moved from 124 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 americanCombatEngineer and 1 americanInfantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 115 Sea Zone 1 Truck and 1 americanArtillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 115 Sea Zone 1 Truck, 1 americanArtillery and 1 americanTransport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 1 americanCombatEngineer, 1 americanInfantry and 1 americanTransport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 americanAntiTankGun and 1 americanArtillery moved from British Columbia to 104 Sea Zone 2 americanSubmarines moved from 116 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone 1 americanSubmarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 130 Sea Zone 1 Material and 1 Train moved from Washington to Los Angeles 1 Train and 2 americanAntiAirGuns moved from Los Angeles to Southwestern US 1 Train and 1 americanInfantry moved from British Columbia to Washington 1 Truck moved from New York to Washington 1 Truck and 1 americanAntiAirGun moved from Washington to New York Purchase Units - Usa Usa buy 2 americanInfantrys, 2 americanNavalFighters, 1 americanSubmarine and 5 americanTransports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 12 techTokens; Trigger EasternSzechwanLLUsa2: China takes ownership of territory Eastern Szechwan Place Units - Usa 2 americanNavalFighters placed in Hawaiian Islands 4 americanTransports placed in 30 Sea Zone 1 americanSubmarine and 1 americanTransport placed in 156 Sea Zone 1 americanInfantry placed in Washington 1 americanInfantry placed in San Francisco Turn Complete - Usa Trigger LLaMA: has removed 1 Material owned by Usa in Archangel Trigger LLaTRA: has removed 1 Truck owned by Usa in Archangel Trigger LLaMA: Russia has 1 Material placed in Archangel Trigger LLaTRA: Russia has 1 Truck placed in Archangel Usa collect 69 PUs; end with 69 PUs Units generate 6 techTokens; Usa end with 18 techTokensCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Usa DepthChargeAttack : -0.17 -
@nothingtoseehere go for
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Turkey round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Total World War: December 1941 3.0
Game History
Round: 3 Combat Move - Turkey Trigger TurkeyAllied10: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Turkey Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Finland from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and DanubeAxis from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and VichyFrance from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Manchuria from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Thailand from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Canada from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Australia from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and India from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Egypt from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and ExiledAllies from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and SouthAfrica from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and China from Neutral to War 1 turkishDestroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone 1 turkishSubmarine moved from 55 Sea Zone to 52 Sea ZoneCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ubernaut Just a Depth Charge attack I'm going to assume submerge.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Turkey round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Total World War: December 1941 3.0
Game History
Round: 3 Combat Move - Turkey Trigger TurkeyAllied10: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Turkey Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Finland from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and DanubeAxis from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and VichyFrance from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Manchuria from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar2: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Thailand from Neutral to Allied Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Canada from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Australia from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and India from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and Egypt from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and ExiledAllies from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and SouthAfrica from Neutral to War Trigger TurkeyAlliesWar: Changing Relationship for Turkey and China from Neutral to War 1 turkishDestroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone 1 turkishSubmarine moved from 55 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone Combat - Turkey Battle in 52 Sea Zone Turkey attack with 1 turkishDestroyer and 1 turkishSubmarine Britain defend with 1 britishSubmarine Turkey roll DepthChargeAttack dice in 52 Sea Zone : 1/1 hits, 0,08 expected hits 1 britishSubmarine owned by the Britain lost in 52 Sea Zone Turkey win, taking 52 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 turkishDestroyer and 1 turkishSubmarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Britain: 1 britishSubmarine Non Combat Move - Turkey 1 turkishArtillery moved from Western Turkey to Turkey 1 turkishAntiTankGun moved from Eastern Turkey to Turkey 1 turkishInfantry moved from Turkey to Eastern Turkey Purchase Units - Turkey Trigger TurkeyAllied2: Setting requiresUnits to turkishBarracks for unitAttachment attached to turkishCombatEngineer Trigger TurkeyAllied1: Setting requiresUnits to turkishBarracks for unitAttachment attached to turkishInfantry Trigger TurkeyAllied4: Setting requiresUnits to turkishFactory for unitAttachment attached to turkishArtillery Trigger TurkeyAllied3: Setting requiresUnits to turkishFactory for unitAttachment attached to turkishTank Trigger TurkeyAllied6: Setting requiresUnits to turkishDocks for unitAttachment attached to turkishSubmarine Trigger TurkeyAllied5: Setting requiresUnits to turkishDocks for unitAttachment attached to turkishTransport Trigger TurkeyAllied8: Setting requiresUnits to turkishFactory for unitAttachment attached to turkishAntiAirGun Trigger TurkeyAllied7: Setting requiresUnits to turkishDocks for unitAttachment attached to turkishDestroyer Trigger TurkeyAllied9: Setting requiresUnits to turkishAircraftPlant for unitAttachment attached to turkishFighter Turn Complete - Turkey Turkey collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Turkey DepthChargeAttack : 0,92 -
@ubernaut I'm still figuring out what to do with Germany.
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@nothingtoseehere dam lol
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@ubernaut I get notified for the fix tww threat anyways. You don't need to mention me.
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@nothingtoseehere cool
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@nothingtoseehere should we replace the file or just leave as is for this game? it's just a display issue doesn't effect gameplay
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@ubernaut I don't mind. Honestly, I don't pay much attention to the little tech icons.
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@nothingtoseehere still might be good to test it at least for the next game
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@ubernaut At our current speed that might be quite a while.
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@nothingtoseehere had a few moments today to test the bombing raid die throw i was talking abt it turns out it those battles sort of go automatically and the miss throw only really stays visible if it happens on the last throw they flash if you see them before and just show up as rolls a 0 in history so sorry for any confusion abt that.
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@nothingtoseehere still working on it?
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@ubernaut yeah sometimes. Currently I'm on a short vacation over the weekend. I was also kind of distracted from looking more than a few minutes at a time. I only found out about a few places whether they are easy, hard or impossible to hold and that all the bigger attacks are probably a bad idea.
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@nothingtoseehere no worries and no rush gonna be busy this week and travelling the week after so i wouldnt be able to do much on my end anyway
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@ubernaut: I noticed that transports don't seem to be giving negative support to subs. At least when I look at the power in the Battle Calculator and add subs above 2 times non-transport-surface ships, defense power goes up regardless of transports.
I looked into the section of the XML dealing with the Mixed fleet penalty and can't see a difference between transports and non-transports -
@ubernaut It looks even weirder when I also look at improved subs tech. Just looked at American and German fleets and added and removed subs, non-transport-ships, and transports, and after a bit of fiddling, it looks like every surface ship can reduce only the combat value of a sub by up to 2 but if you have more subs than surface ships even nonimproved subs add 1 defense for every sub exceeding the number of surface ships. same happens with improved subs but you get 2 defense for every surplus sub.
What confused me about transports nontransports is that it looks especially weird in the battle calc when you have more nonimproved subs than surface ships and then add transports because until you surpass surface ships defense power stays the same because transports add 1 defense but the negative support reduces the defense of 1 sub by one.
As I understand the 3.x descriptions this isn't how it's supossed to work. surface ships should reduce up to 2 times their number of nonimproved subs. I know at the start there was a bug that made subs hit even if they are accompanied by surface ships in defense. But that's been taken care of. I didn't test if it's just a battle calc display problem or if subs actually would shoot if they are more numerous than surface ships in an actuall battle. -
@nothingtoseehere yeah that bug was fixed i noticed it like a game or two ago figured you already knew abt it
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