EXP crockett Victory Panzer beelee
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@crockett36 I was trying to form armies in Kar, Nov and a tank army in Smo. Did I succeed? I tried to imitate the German ones. The tank general wanted to go to Smo, but couldn't. The mines wanted to go to the front, but couldn't. The engineer, I assumed needed to be near the mines? There you go.
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Hi crockett
A few things. It looks as if you used edit to DOW JPN. The Soviet/JPN NAP works a little different in EXP.
The first two rounds are same as OOB. Begining Early 1941/Rd3, there is a IPC fee you must pay and your opponent then receives that amount and can either place units in non combat Territories that turn or put them in the bank.
Usually, we just add the dudes or the money on the Players turn but in some cases you might want to do it sooner ( adding units to non combat zones ).
For example, if Italy attacked first or JPN attacked Russia first.Anyway, Politics come after Purchase, so you need to save enough dough to be able to DOW. In this case, it'd be 8 bucks.
What I'll do is, rescind the DOW, since you didn't attack any JPN TTys and there is no advantage for you to do so.
If you really wanted to though
You'd have to remove 8 dollars worth of buys and then JPN gets it added to it's Treasury or can place up to that amount of units on the board.I'll brb with how to form your Armies/Corps.
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Armies and Corps are a little complex and as is usually true with most new things, there is a bit of a learning curve. You will pick it up quick thoughThe Soviets have godless Commisars leading their Corps. Generally, what you want is to have them activate the most powerful unit in the Corps. Usually a Tank.
We'll do Karelia first. You have a Commisar, Tank, Arty and Inf for your ideal Corps makeup of the available units.
The best way, is after NCM but before you end it, turn on Edit, go to Perform Move or Other Actions and then move them to the appropriate box.Then move the corresponding Token back to the appropriate TTy.
However, since G and Russia aren't at war yet, triplea won't let you do that.So, since it's just a Corps and not a Army Group, it's better to finish NCM and just edit them in and out.
Also, to activate the Army/Corps, you will need to edit in the correct Commisar. Commisar3 is what activates the Tank and is the most common.
When you go to use them in combat, you move them with edit to the desired TTy and move the token back.
NOTE you must move all Defenders to said TTy first or the Attackers edited units won't do anything.
But you don't need to worry about that just yetTank Army next
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The Tank General has to be present to form a Tank Army and the five Tanks also have to be present. So, you can't form a Tank Army in Smolensk just yet.Also, All of the required units must be present at turn start to move as a Army.
You can't move the TG into Smolensk in CM and then activate it and keep moving.Basically, they will form at the end of your turn. Although Waffen Armies can be an exception.
What I'm gonna do, is move one of the Smolensk Tanks back to Novgorod, so they can form 2nd Corps with a Tank.
You can always restructure it next turn by moving it to join the other Tanks and the TG in order to form 1st Tank.Landmines can only be armed the turn they are bought in the TTy they're in. They can't move after that.
The Engineer and the LMs all have to be present at the start of the turn for the Engnr to be able to transport them that turn. Otherwise, they can only move 1 space.
They can use Rail movement though, but only one LM per Rail.To Arm the LMs, you have to edit them out and edit the correct "Changer Player" ones in. If there is not a specific LM for the TTy/Border you want, use the suggested colored one and make a note in Comments.
I will post an updated R3 and go ahead with Nippon. If you would want to do something different, just let us know.
@crockett36
Here is adjusted save. Let us know if that works for you.
EXP Game 1 Multi Russia3 Adjusted.tsvg -
Hallo
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 Fortification, 5 armour, 1 elite, 4 infantry, 1 japanese_para and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi Japanese take Shensi from Chinese 3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Szechwan 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan 3 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan Combat - Japanese Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Szechwan, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 6.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Kwangsi Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi 1 armour moved from Yunnan to Shensi 4 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Chahar to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Chahar 2 bombers moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 2 fighters moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi 1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Korea 1 J_Rail and 1 elite moved from Korea to Yunnan 1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Korea 1 J_Rail and 1 Japanese_LCV moved from Korea to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 artillery and 1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 elite moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 Japan_Engineers and 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 Japan_Engineers, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 Japan_Engineers and 2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung EDIT: 1 Japanese_LCV, 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Japan to Korea 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 Fortification placed in Caroline Islands 3 armour placed in Shantung 2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu 1 elite, 3 infantry and 1 japanese_para placed in Japan 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 53 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.83Nippon has sent a delegation to America. They don't want war. Just Texaco oil and old Buicks.
Uncle Sam is up
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@beelee Thanks for the help. I didn't actually declare war. The software auto declared for me. So thank you for undoing that.
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oh ? I tried to find it in History and couldn't find it. I noticed edit turned on and then turned off and then they were at war.
Well, we will keep an eye on it. I've never noticed it before but sometimes there are unintended changes with the prereleases
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Just noticed you edited in the "Engineer Attack" unit. He won't be able to transport anybody, so you need to change him back to just "Engineer".
The "Attack" is just for offensive battle. They both work correctly on defense.
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@beelee Yeah, I didn't do that and I don't know what that means. The software must have done that.
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@beelee I did turn on edit for something and then did nothing with it. just trying to fill in the history.
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yea, so if you go back to your posted turn, you can see at the bottom that the Engineer got swapped out for a EngineerAttack.
I assumed you just wanted to move it to Russia and forgot.
Anyway, you will need to change it to Engineer or it won't be able to transport the Landmines.
The Attack Engnr is for offensive combat only, otherwise, you want the Engineer only.
Here's how triplea does it:
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The software did that, just saying.
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That's fine. We'll have to keep an eye on it as I haven't seen that before.
At any rate, you will want to change the Engnr so it can move the LMs.
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Looking through it again and there are two Elites in Moscow. Can only have one per territory.Since you didn't use any Rail movement last turn, you can move one of the Elites to any TTy you control before your next turn.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 Russian_EngineerAttack EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 Russian_Engineer EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 elite EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Novgorod: 1 elite EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@crockett36 two questions. I moved the elite to NOV. Is that possible by rail?
Secondly, I noticed the cost of an engineer attack is 1 ipc. Did I pay 1 ipc in rd 2? 56 ipc in rd 2. 4 tanks for 20, two bombers 24. paratrooper 4, engineer 5, elite 3. That is correct actually.
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yea Engnr is 5 bucks and the combat one you just edit in before attacking. It says 1 buck because triplea used to require a PU cost in order to work.
That's not necesssary anymore thanks to redrum
Anyway, it doesn't cost anything.
Yes, for Rail movement, you can move to any original Russian TTy or the "E" Europe one,can move in Europe as well.
You click on the Rail unit and then click on the unit you want to move.
Newly conquered TTys from the same turn are Player enforced not to move into.
@VictoryFirst
Gentle reminder the Yanks are up -
TripleA Turn Summary: British round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 Russian_EngineerAttack EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 Russian_Engineer EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 elite EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Novgorod: 1 elite EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 elite, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States Combat - Americans Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Americans Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 6 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States 2 usa_fighters moved from Western United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 2 usa_fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 2 usa_fighters moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 elite and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Note to players Americans: <body>America has joined the Allies, and declared war on Germany and Italy!</body> Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Americans AdvancedProduction: Americans met a national objective for an additional 14 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceChinese: Chinese has 2 Rails placed in Kansu 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan Combat - Chinese Battle in Suiyuyan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan 1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveChinese: has removed 2 Rails owned by Chinese in Sikang 2 Rails and 2 infantry moved from Kansu to Sikang 8 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Sikang Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Sikang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 5 PUs Objective Advanced Production 1 Infantry: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 destroyer, 5 infantry, 6 uk_armours and 3 uk_paras; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 NavyLendLease; Combat Move - British Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Italian Somaliland 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Italian Somaliland 1 bomber, 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Italian Somaliland 1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Italian Somaliland British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 4 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers Italians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Italian Somaliland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 4 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers in Italian Somaliland, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 4,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Italian Somaliland, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Italian Somaliland 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Italian Somaliland British win, taking Italian Somaliland from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 91 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - British Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Union of South Africa 1 bomber moved from Italian Somaliland to Egypt 4 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia 1 uk_armour moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 2 destroyers and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 uk_armour moved from Iraq to Egypt 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt 1 uk_armour moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 mech_infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Place Units - British Trigger Wolfpack at91 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 109 Sea Zone 3 uk_paras placed in United Kingdom 3 uk_armours placed in Egypt 3 infantry and 2 uk_armours placed in India 2 infantry and 1 uk_armour placed in Union of South Africa Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 uk_armour EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 factory_major EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 UndrgroundFctry EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 0 to 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 uk_armour EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Malaya: 1 harbour EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 1 to 2 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,3,1 British collect 47 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0,67 Italians regular : 0,67 Japanese regular : 0,67 British regular : 1,67 -
Sorry for the edits at the end of the British turn
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Your troops need your command!
Italy has declared war on Russia, hence you will get 10IPC for this violation.
You can spend them immediately or save them to buy Vodka and get ready for the party!
Attached the file G3_before_CM for you to place your units.
BR
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 Italian_LCV, 1 air_transport, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 italian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Trigger Russians Allied Americans 3: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Italians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Rail placed in Southern Italy Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 artilleryTG and 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Bryansk: 1 artilleryTG EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 artillery EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@crockett36 Give peace a chance man!
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Technically Italy needs to do their combat moves and then Russia gets the option to place dudes in TTys that aren't being attacked.
Idk that'll matter in this case but just a heads up for future play
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I guess I could change the popup in case it's confusing. Make a second one that fires at end of CM saying you get the 10 bucks.Or I could clarify it in the first popup.
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Actually, I already had a second popup lol I adjusted so it will fire after CM instead of endTurn.Looks like this now
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Hmm ... was rereading the rule and it seems somewhat contradictory
So, I guess it's correct as is. You announce that you're gonna place units or which ones you are gonna buy, then the attacker does his CM and then the dudes get placed ?
Idk, doesn't seem real clear to me. Seems unnecessarily complex.
Well, w/e, that's what it says. I usually just place the dudes at the start of the attacked players turn or add to the bank.Or, I guess you say, I'm saving the money or spending some or all of it. Say how much. Then CM, then you place the dudes.
Well, whatever, I guess if crockett wants to move his dudes after CM he can.
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Kept original DOW Notification the same.
Second one fires after CM
I'll clarify in Game Notes the full rule.
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