EXP crockett Victory Panzer beelee
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Take Over Italy:
Italy has the following income after turn 8:
2 IPC saved + 3 IPC Adv. Prod. Capacity + 16 IPC for the TTs - 8IPC convoy disruption = 13 IPCGermany will get 13 IPC from Italy Take Over.
I added them already to Germanys bank and did some clean up on the not converted units (LCVs and ATs)BR
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 Escort, 1 TakeOverItaly and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Rail placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Italians take Trans-Jordan from British Combat - Italians Battle in Bryansk Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Italians win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Rail owned by Italians in Western Germany 1 Rail moved from Southern Italy to Bessarabia 1 Rail and 1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany 2 Italian_LCVs, 1 aaGun, 1 air_transport, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 air_transport moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany 1 air_transport moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to France Place Units - Italians 1 Escort and 3 transports placed in 95 Sea Zone 1 TakeOverItaly placed in Southern Italy Trigger TakeOverALLItalianUnitsGermanyDone: Setting giveUnitControlInAllTerritories to true for playerAttachment attached to Italians Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Trans-Jordan Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Alexandria Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Egypt Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Tobruk Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Albania Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Northern Italy Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Libya Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Sicily Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Southern Italy Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Sardinia Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Belarus Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Bryansk Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Bessarabia Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Ukraine Trigger RemoveItalianharbourInEgypt: has removed 1 harbour owned by Italians in Egypt Trigger RemoveItalianfactory majorInNorthern Italy: has removed 1 factory_major owned by Italians in Northern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianairfieldInSouthern Italy: has removed 1 airfield owned by Italians in Southern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianfactory minorInEgypt: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Italians in Egypt Trigger RemoveItalianharbourInSouthern Italy: has removed 1 harbour owned by Italians in Southern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianfactory minorInSouthern Italy: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Italians in Southern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianairfieldInEgypt: has removed 1 airfield owned by Italians in Egypt Trigger PlaceGermanharbourInEgypt: Germans has 1 harbour placed in Egypt Trigger PlaceGermanfactory minorInEgypt: Germans has 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt Trigger PlaceGermanfactory minorInSouthern Italy: Germans has 1 factory_minor placed in Southern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanairfieldInSouthern Italy: Germans has 1 airfield placed in Southern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanfactory majorInNorthern Italy: Germans has 1 factory_major placed in Northern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanairfieldInEgypt: Germans has 1 airfield placed in Egypt Trigger PlaceGermanharbourInSouthern Italy: Germans has 1 harbour placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Trigger Italians RemoveItalyConvoySZ95Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by Italians in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Italians RemoveItalyConvoySZ95Invert: Italians has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 95 Sea Zone Units Change Ownership Some Units in Trans-Jordan change ownership: 1 mech_infantry Some Units in Normandy Bordeaux change ownership: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Some Units in France change ownership: 1 aaGun Some Units in Western Germany change ownership: 2 air_transports, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Some Units in Northern Italy change ownership: 2 Italian_LCVs, 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 8 infantry Some Units in Belarus change ownership: 2 armour Some Units in Bryansk change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Some Units in 95 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 Escort, 1 Escort_Convoy and 3 transportsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 1,00 Russians regular : -0,33 -
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convoy disruption total: 12 IPC
convoy disruption deducted: 8 IPC (max. convoy disruption possible) -
Oh my... Trans-Jordan doesn't belong to Africa...
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:astonished_face:
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In that case I had better recaptured Egypt instead of letting it stay Italian since it didn't prevent the take over anyway... sigh.
Good move Panzer
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@victoryfirst said in EXP crockett Victory Panzer beelee:
In that case I had better recaptured Egypt instead of letting it stay Italian since it didn't prevent the take over anyway... sigh.
Good move Panzer
Yes, it belongs to Asia. I made the same mistake in the past as well. ðĪŠ
Asia is all of the Soviet Union, as well as Trans-
Jordan & Syria and everything east of these
territories â all the way to Malaya and up to Soviet
Far East.Do you want to adjust your UK turn? I am fine with that.
B$
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@panzerstahl-helm-0 Nah it's fine. Mistakes are to be made
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You sure ? It's cool if you wanna redo it. It's gonna have a signifigant impact on the game.
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@beelee So Italy is so beset by problems that it's going to be taken over BUT it can do military exercises and then go again under German control!? That is not a compelling narrative. I would think the lack of coherency would cause miscommunication, lack of unity, delays, etc that prevent effective military aggression. That is the play tester in me. Are there any analogs of that on the Allied side?
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@beelee Alright, if you insist... I think I could get away with it, with a couple small changes.
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US super heavy from SZ 91 moves to SZ 96
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UK attacks Egypt with 1 inf, 1 art and 1 tank
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UK transport from SZ 99 moves to SZ 96, picks up an infantry, moves to SZ 98 and the infantry offloads in Alexandria
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3 tanks move to Syria, 1 inf to Iraq
Of course, Panzer may/should redo his turn also.
Let me know what changes you agree/not agree on.
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well i don't insist
but yes @Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Panzer will need to redo his turn. We will leave it with him for now.@crockett36
yes Takeover of Italy is a powerfull event in EXP. It's very hard to prepare for. Once you ride out the storm, it swings to the Allies favor with no more Italy imo.
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@VictoryFirst @Panzerstahl-Helm-0 @crockett36
Here are the results of the Egypt battle. I will now update the map and post a revised save.
Here's updated save.
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@victoryfirst said in EXP crockett Victory Panzer beelee:
@beelee Alright, if you insist... I think I could get away with it, with a couple small changes.
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US super heavy from SZ 91 moves to SZ 96
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UK attacks Egypt with 1 inf, 1 art and 1 tank
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UK transport from SZ 99 moves to SZ 96, picks up an infantry, moves to SZ 98 and the infantry offloads in Alexandria
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3 tanks move to Syria, 1 inf to Iraq
Of course, Panzer may/should redo his turn also.
Let me know what changes you agree/not agree on.
Fair enough for me. I will send out my new Italy turn soon.
BR
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Howdy,
here we go again.
Italy hands over 10 IPC to Germany.BR
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 TakeOverItaly and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Rail placed in Southern Italy 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk Combat - Italians Battle in Bryansk Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Italians win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Rail owned by Italians in Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to France 2 Italian_LCVs, 1 Rail, 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 2 air_transports and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 Rail moved from Northern Italy to Bessarabia 1 Rail and 1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany Place Units - Italians 4 submarines placed in 95 Sea Zone 1 TakeOverItaly placed in Southern Italy Trigger TakeOverALLItalianUnitsGermanyDone: Setting giveUnitControlInAllTerritories to true for playerAttachment attached to Italians Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Tobruk Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Albania Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Northern Italy Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Libya Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Sicily Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Southern Italy Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Sardinia Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Belarus Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Bryansk Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Bessarabia Trigger ConquerItaly: Germans takes ownership of territory Ukraine Trigger RemoveItalianfactory majorInNorthern Italy: has removed 1 factory_major owned by Italians in Northern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianairfieldInSouthern Italy: has removed 1 airfield owned by Italians in Southern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianharbourInSouthern Italy: has removed 1 harbour owned by Italians in Southern Italy Trigger RemoveItalianfactory minorInSouthern Italy: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Italians in Southern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanairfieldInSouthern Italy: Germans has 1 airfield placed in Southern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanfactory majorInNorthern Italy: Germans has 1 factory_major placed in Northern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanfactory minorInSouthern Italy: Germans has 1 factory_minor placed in Southern Italy Trigger PlaceGermanharbourInSouthern Italy: Germans has 1 harbour placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Units Change Ownership Some Units in Normandy Bordeaux change ownership: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Some Units in France change ownership: 1 aaGun Some Units in Western Germany change ownership: 2 air_transports, 1 artillery and 5 infantry Some Units in Northern Italy change ownership: 2 Italian_LCVs, 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry Some Units in Belarus change ownership: 2 armour Some Units in Bryansk change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Some Units in 95 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 Escort and 4 submarinesCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0,17 Russians regular : 1,33 -
@beelee said in EXP crockett Victory Panzer beelee:
well i don't insist
but yes @Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Panzer will need to redo his turn. We will leave it with him for now.@crockett36
yes Takeover of Italy is a powerfull event in EXP. It's very hard to prepare for. Once you ride out the storm, it swings to the Allies favor with no more Italy imo.
More realistic rules: Role dice for armies on the board. If 1, these units are attacked by the German units in the same territory. If any units remain, they are become allied and the territory becomes allied. If 2, and the units are in any territory that directly touches Italy, the units go awol and attempt to blend in with the civilian population or hide out in the mountains. If 3, 4, they are immobile for this turn, being unclear about their orders or the order of command. If 5, 6, they instantly are folded into the German ranks. Planes within flying distance to Allied territory and who roll a 1, 2, make a run for it. German air in the same territory will pursue and engage in battle. Italian ships in the Med without a German contingent, make a run for it to join the Allies.
I believe this better represents the reality and confusion of the war.
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 8
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 fighter moved from New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 62 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to South Australia 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 62 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 2 NavyFighters and 1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea Combat - ANZAC Battle in 56 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 Japan_destroyer ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 fighters in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_destroyer in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 56 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 56 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_destroyer Battle in 55 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 Japan_destroyer ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Japan_destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_destroyer Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - ANZAC Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 carrier moved from 62 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 56 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 Escort_Convoy, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 fighter placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 17 PUs Combat Move - French Combat - French Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - French Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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yea you'd have to ask The Captain about how they decided on the TakeOver rule.
I did something similar to what you propose with Oztea's 1939 for the Vichy. Was based mainly on Xeno Games WaW and the BM mod along with my own twist.
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