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    Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat

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      beelee @Trout
      last edited by beelee

      @trout

      I suggest using the latest map version. It's not that difficult to download.

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      @JohnnyCat

      Start a local game and let us know what map version it is. It will tell you on the first prompt.

      Screenshot from 2025-11-23 19-51-14.png

      As you can see in the above it is version 2.52

      Stay with us brother 🙂 We'll make it happen 🙂

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        JohnnyCat @beelee
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        @beelee ok ill give this a try over the next couple hours. Thanks !!!!!!

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          JohnnyCat @Trout
          last edited by

          @trout I use Macs and avoid Windows if possible. But I can use it if necessary

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            JohnnyCat
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            @beelee said in Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat:

            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15279

            I am CLUELESS as to what to do...

            Installed the latest tripleA version 2.7.14962

            Tried to uninstall the Global 40 Expansion UHD (what a silly name. And what is this UHD thing mean?) and triplea said I removed it, but then said I had it, but then said I did not, blah blah ... just wacky behavior and I was unable to find any way to download the Global 40 UHD Boxes

            I am on a Mac and this game has worked find for me in the past but now I cannot even find anything that allows me to install the game/map...

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              Trout @JohnnyCat
              last edited by

              @johnnycat That’s wise. I am pretty sure Windows is not necessary for me to kick around some American GI’s in a game of G40. Hah!

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                JohnnyCat
                last edited by

                It seems clear that I do not have the latest map and do not know how to get it since the usual way, via the tripleA program, does not seem to find it.

                So is there some manual way to install the correct map? On a Mac I should add...

                THank you

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                  beelee @JohnnyCat
                  last edited by

                  @johnnycat

                  UHD stands for "Ultra High Definition" I think. Black Elk made it for bigger monitors or 5g or idk about all the graphic stuff.

                  Mac's have historically been problematic with triplea engine.

                  I will post a step by step here after a bit

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                    Trout @JohnnyCat
                    last edited by

                    @johnnycat If I understand correctly, you were able to do a test game against yourself on your Mac. So that means the map version you were using for that test game had no issues with your Mac. Unless I am missing something.

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                      JohnnyCat @Trout
                      last edited by

                      @trout yes I've been able to play this UHD game for months now.

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                        JohnnyCat
                        last edited by

                        Screenshot 2025-11-24 at 8.06.16 PM.png

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                        • JohnnyCatJ Offline
                          JohnnyCat
                          last edited by

                          FREE HAND PAINTED GAME PIECES !!!??? I want that...

                          Anyway this is the cover page for this game. Seems different from Trout's...

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                            beelee @JohnnyCat
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                            @johnnycat

                            Hi Cat

                            Uggh that was a brutal football game but the whiners won 🙂 Had an unexpected college basketball game before that. 🙂

                            So, I think most likey you and Trout have a different "map" version of the game. As I stated above "2.52" is the latest.

                            Start up a local game and let us know what version it is

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                              JohnnyCat @beelee
                              last edited by

                              @beelee I just did - and there is no version number that is what I just posted.

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                                JohnnyCat
                                last edited by

                                what football game?

                                Here is what shows up at the tail end of the info fileScreenshot 2025-11-24 at 8.25.18 PM.png

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                                  beelee @JohnnyCat
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnnycat

                                  yea so start a local game of "Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes"

                                  Screenshot from 2025-11-24 22-31-22.png

                                  Screenshot from 2025-11-24 22-30-29.png

                                  Screenshot from 2025-11-24 22-32-11.png

                                  Screenshot from 2025-11-24 22-32-40.png

                                  Screenshot from 2025-11-24 22-33-27.png

                                  What comes up when you do that ?

                                  Oh 49ers MNF 🙂 Was a poorly played game by both teams 🙂

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                                    beelee @beelee
                                    last edited by beelee

                                    @JohnnyCat

                                    Ahh I just looked at your picture again. It says you have 2.52 in the Change Log.

                                    I am going to start a game for us and we will see if we can get it to work

                                    Edit
                                    I will need your Marti email to set it up

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                                      JohnnyCat
                                      last edited by

                                      Screenshot 2025-11-25 at 11.01.18 AM.png

                                      I can load various game saves of my own so the issue seems to be related to when I load this save of our first turn from @Trout

                                      But Trout just saved his first turn as normal... Also I logged a bug fix as you can see

                                      Screenshot 2025-11-25 at 11.04.50 AM.png

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                                        wc_sumpton @JohnnyCat
                                        last edited by wc_sumpton

                                        @johnnycat

                                        You are reporting on an error with version 2.7.14962. The cause of this error, ERROR o.t.game.client.HeadedGameRunner - null java.lang.NullPointerException: null. This is a null value stored in the saved game header and has already rectify. This may make some newer version save incompatibility with older versions. This 'save incompatibility' does not happen all the time. @Trout is using 2.7.15256, you @beelee are using 2.7.14962. Ask @beelee if he can open the save game, I could not using 2.7.14962. I was able to use 2.7.15025 and load @Trout's da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg saved game.
                                        Even though a higher version can open a lower version save, the reverse may not hold true.
                                        Hope this is helpful, please direct any further inquiries regarding this matter directly to your in-game representative 🤣 @beelee 😵.

                                        Cheers...

                                        P.S. A 2.7.15025 save was still incapnot work able with 2.7.14962, so reposting a save will not help. Everyone needs to be on the same map version because the saved game contains a lot of map specific information and can cause a lot of incapability issues. Also 2.7 higher 15026 may not work with lower versions. Although this issue is kind of hit or miss.

                                        Again Cheers...

                                        And etcetera...
                                        It was this saved game, da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg, from @Trout that has been the bane of my past few days. It will not work with 2.7.15278 because of an 'any' problem, won't work with 2.7.14962 because of a 'null' in the save file header.
                                        Please, please... help @JohnnyCat, get this game rolling. Give a guy (me) a break 😵🤣

                                        Cheers...

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                                          beelee
                                          last edited by beelee

                                          @wc_sumpton

                                          Good Afternoon Gentleman

                                          Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.

                                          Trout had recently updated but our current game continued to work, so i didn't give it much thought.

                                          I'm not really sure the status of the latest prerelease, so @Trout , I'd suggest using 14962 or whatever one it was you were using when we started our last game and trying another save.

                                          https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.14962

                                          @JohnnyCat I will start a test for us just to see if we can get it to work and there isn't some other problem.

                                          I will do that directly 🙂

                                          Edit
                                          I just tried to load Trouts save again and it doesn't work. I should have ciphered that sooner but then mental failures are nothing new to me 🙂

                                          Edit 2
                                          @JohnnyCat try using this save and select pbem.

                                          EXP Cat Test Game 1.tsvg

                                          It should take you to the German Purchase window. It should say "Dice Server On" bottom right

                                          Screenshot from 2025-11-25 14-47-22.png

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                                          • wc_sumptonW Offline
                                            wc_sumpton @beelee
                                            last edited by

                                            @beelee said in Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat:

                                            Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.

                                            Your last game may have been started with 2.7.14926, which would have created the game header. The game header information is stored and read like the xml. Even though @Trout may have used a different version, the stored/old header is still written to the save file.
                                            Here @Trout is creating the first save, so his version is creating the header.

                                            Cheers...

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