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    Total World War: December 1941 (BETA) 2.8.0.5

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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators
      last edited by

      Just working on the last little details for this release...

      1. Adding the missing icons in for all the damaged units.

      2. Doing full revisions to the game notes to ensure all the changes to the game are included in all pages of the manual.

      Here's a little preview of how I am dealing with the tech chart...

      0_1531232441121_Page14.png

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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      • redrumR Offline
        redrum Admin
        last edited by redrum

        @Hepps
        Here is the updated unit_icons.properties: 0_1533414237710_unit_icons.properties

        TODO

        • Rename the following images to lowercase: Prod -> prod, ImpProd -> impProd, AdvProd -> advProd
        • BB star looks off center
        • Adv DD star overlaps "A"
        • Should train have 2 logistics upgrades (added see below)?
        • Should damaged units show icons (added see below)?
        • Should "Infantry" do a single green circle instead of 3 pie pieces as it doesn't get bonuses from imp or adv SWF?
        • Any reason "Alpines" don't get the ability to paradrop with Adv SWF?
        • Anything look missing from below screenshots?

        Fixes

        • PR to fix unit types with periods in name (germanMech.Infantry): https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/3721

        The following is with all techs researched based on this save game: 0_1533414546488_test.tsvg

        Land Units
        0_1533414228052_effa97c0-504d-420c-8545-8a6b6c6f41dd-image.png
        0_1533404431749_3353a7f9-ecdf-47ae-aa7e-8935beb28ef7-image.png

        Air Units
        0_1533402377217_9a4b1d4e-be65-4fc7-a42d-690943035ecf-image.png

        Sea Units
        0_1533405838927_825e609b-1343-4fcc-80bd-268a903e4ea7-image.png

        TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators @redrum
          last edited by

          @redrum Great!

          1. Awesome. Consistency would be nice.
          2. Yes I will have to make a new left facing star for all the left facing units that is just a hair bigger.
          3. I'll have to ponder that one. It is going to be an issue for right and left.
          4. Yes trains need 2 pluses
          5. Would be nice.
          6. I simply made all the Infantry types 3 slices for visual clarity. So no matter where you are on the map... regardless of what Inf type is present... you know which SWF tier your opponent is at.
          7. Combat Paradrop with Alpine is with Improved SWF.
          8. Will study. Looks good so far other than some of the changes identified.

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators
            last edited by

            0_1533434830956_unit_icons.properties

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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            • redrumR Offline
              redrum Admin
              last edited by

              Take #2: 0_1533439345052_unit_icons.properties

              Land
              0_1533439373551_6edd7fd6-ae11-48b9-a984-27607245f91d-image.png
              0_1533439397333_5bdb5ded-73a8-4381-b701-fc4e205fbc76-image.png

              Air
              0_1533439410569_4f3756ca-5570-42c0-9ddf-00d6c74a1189-image.png

              Sea
              0_1533439424667_9edceb39-3537-484d-a8d1-211d3633b2a0-image.png

              TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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              • FrostionF Offline
                Frostion Admin
                last edited by

                Just out of curiosity, why are technical indicators not all just round and cake-slice like? Would that not lead to most consistency and also make the player not have to learn too many icons and symbols?

                Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                • HeppsH Offline
                  Hepps Moderators @Frostion
                  last edited by

                  @frostion I had all the icons the same in my first draft and it was very difficult to distinguish or differentiate between different units and which had been improved. There were just to many circles on the map.

                  So what I did was I simply made the indicator system the same format... just using different shapes for each branch of the military... Land, Sea and Air being Circles, Pentagons and Triangles.

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                  • FrostionF Offline
                    Frostion Admin
                    last edited by

                    Yea, I thought the answer was something like that. I can imagine the crowded territories. I still think that the round one is the nicest, cleanest and best looking. 😊 I am looking forward to using this new feature on one of my own maps.

                    Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                    • HeppsH Offline
                      Hepps Moderators
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                      Crowding really isn't the issue. Though late in the game there are lots of icons one the map. But since you rarely have 1 of every unit in a territory... it's less obvious than in the example. Just ensuring the icons are clearly understandable at a glance. By having different shapes for each type of unit it makes it very clear which unit have which techs. There is no chance to mistake Improved
                      SWF with Improved Fighters. Also it reinforces at a glance what type of unit you have.

                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                      Hepster

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators
                        last edited by Hepps

                        NEW TWW 2.8.0.5 NOW AVAILABLE on the Map Downloads!!!

                        Please refer to the first post in this thread for all the technical details...

                        The game changes are as follows...

                        • Game manual has all the game changes included from 2.8.0.4

                        • +1 Airfield added to Copenhagen

                        • +1 germanCombatEngineer added to West Africa

                        • -1 britishFighter removed from New Brunswick

                        • -1 britishInfantry removed from Malta

                        • +1 japaneseAlpineInfantry added to Eastern Manchuria

                        • +1 japaneseAirfield added to Peking

                        • Redrum added to credits on Greenland

                        • New placements for many territories of the map to reduce overlap from extension bars. Territories now also have extension bars that protrude in a leftward direction to ease the overlap on heavily populated areas of the map.

                        • New improved image for chineseCombatEngineer

                        • All fighter and Advanced Fighter classes now perform equally well on Coastal Terrain against a comparable unit. (Slight reduction for both types of naval fighter units)

                        • Unit icons added to units to be able to determine which technologies you and your opponent have at a glance.

                        • New Mini Map that gives better indication of units in territories and desaturation of the mini map to make units standout more.

                        • Neutral Nations can now be made optional and skipped during gameplay when you are playing without them (I am calling it...BOT friendly mode)

                        • Wave texture added to all water. Lightens map in a subtle way and adds a nice bit of detail.

                        • Placements in Gold coast SZ now fixed. So Minor nation units will transfer to the appropriate Major power.

                        • +34.685% fun added due to all these improvements 😃

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                        • HeppsH Offline
                          Hepps Moderators
                          last edited by Hepps

                          Furthermore... I want to underscore just what a tremendous resource @redrum has been, both with making new features available and providing technical assistance to laymen such as myself in getting this product out to you all.

                          Be sure to give him a hardy slap on the back if you see him in the Lobby to show him how appreciative you are of all his ongoing efforts. 😃 Slap hard and often to show you care! 😃

                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                          • HeppsH Offline
                            Hepps Moderators @Hepps
                            last edited by Hepps

                            @hepps BTW everyone... please hold for the time being. I found some issues with the release and I need to find an engine version that is compatible.

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                            • HeppsH Offline
                              Hepps Moderators
                              last edited by Hepps

                              Ok problems solved.

                              The new usable Pre-release engine is ...https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/1.9.0.0.11131 the link is also available on the first post in the thread.

                              If you had already downloaded 2.8.0.5 please delete and re download. There were a few minor errors that have since been corrected.

                              As near as I can tell the game is backwards compatible with 2.8.0.4 saves. So you can update your game version and reap the benefits of the new icons. 😃

                              If you come across any issues please post here so I know what else needs to be examined and fixed.

                              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                              Hepster

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                              • HeppsH Offline
                                Hepps Moderators
                                last edited by

                                To give you a glimpse of the near future, the next release is currently under development.

                                TWW 3.0.0.0 will definitely feature...

                                • New Sub vs. Destroyer mechanics.

                                • New Occupation Territories for French North Africa (including some PU valuation changes for FNA as well as French West Africa). French North Africa will be German occupation zones (Similar to The British Occupation areas) and Vichy will not earn PU from them. However, French West Africa will increase slightly in value to compensate the vichy for the PU losses in FNA.

                                I am also toying with the following...

                                • Adding a single new Command unit for every nation.

                                • Adding Mongolia as a new Neutral Nation. This is meant to ensure there are fewer opportunities to exploit the region if you are playing without Diplomacy, while also adding some more zesty goodness if you are.

                                • Adding Saudi Arabia as a Neutral Nation. This is meant to ensure there are fewer opportunities to exploit the region if you are playing without Diplomacy, while also adding some more zesty goodness if you are.

                                • Adding Mexico as a Neutral Nation. This is meant to ensure there are fewer opportunities to exploit the region if you are playing without Diplomacy, while also adding some more zesty goodness if you are.

                                All of these proposed changes are designed to test just some of the new idea's that are being worked on in a Hepp's Secret Government subterranean bunker for Global Dominance.

                                What I will do is formally retire 2.7.7.2. It has had a good run... but alas progress is an insensitive bitch.

                                2.8.0.5 will become the Gold Standard for TWW. While 3.0 will be the playground for my evil maniacal tendencies. I do so adore human testing. :smiling_face_with_horns:

                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                • prastleP Offline
                                  prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
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                                  @hepps "subterranean bunker" ? This I need to see 🙂

                                  If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                    Hepps Moderators @prastle
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                                    @prastle Sorry. Access is reserved to Ultra level clearance.

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
                                      last edited by

                                      @hepps Hehe 🙂

                                      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                        0_1533725352540_f43110e5-f7dc-4585-a7c1-1cd535d51e8e-image.png
                                        Why does Germany get those green marking above the infantry, even without special warfare and UK with adv sw doesn't get them? Same for the fighters

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                                          wirkey Moderators @Hepps
                                          last edited by

                                          @hepps said in Total World War: December 1941 (BETA) 2.8.0.5:

                                          To give you a glimpse of the near future, the next release is currently under development.

                                          TWW 3.0.0.0 will definitely feature...

                                          • New Sub vs. Destroyer mechanics.

                                          • New Occupation Territories for French North Africa (including some PU valuation changes for FNA as well as French West Africa). French North Africa will be German occupation zones (Similar to The British Occupation areas) and Vichy will not earn PU from them. However, French West Africa will increase slightly in value to compensate the vichy for the PU losses in FNA.

                                          I am also toying with the following...

                                          • Adding a single new Command unit for every nation.

                                          • Adding Mongolia as a new Neutral Nation. This is meant to ensure there are fewer opportunities to exploit the region if you are playing without Diplomacy, while also adding some more zesty goodness if you are.

                                          • Adding Saudi Arabia as a Neutral Nation. This is meant to ensure there are fewer opportunities to exploit the region if you are playing without Diplomacy, while also adding some more zesty goodness if you are.

                                          • Adding Mexico as a Neutral Nation. This is meant to ensure there are fewer opportunities to exploit the region if you are playing without Diplomacy, while also adding some more zesty goodness if you are.

                                          All of these proposed changes are designed to test just some of the new idea's that are being worked on in a Hepp's Secret Government subterranean bunker for Global Dominance.

                                          What I will do is formally retire 2.7.7.2. It has had a good run... but alas progress is an insensitive bitch.

                                          2.8.0.5 will become the Gold Standard for TWW. While 3.0 will be the playground for my evil maniacal tendencies. I do so adore human testing. :smiling_face_with_horns:

                                          TWW 3.0 = GD? I remember a time you said you wouldn't contribute anymore to TWW.
                                          About Mexiko, Mongolia, Saudi Arabia: I wouldn't make them neutral nations. I would just make them join another nation if attacked.
                                          Mongolia goes to Russia/Japan if attacked by Axis/Allies
                                          Saudi-Arabia to UK/Italy
                                          Mexiko to US/Germany
                                          Is it possible to change turn order? In that case you could even make them minors of the nations they join.

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                                          • HeppsH Offline
                                            Hepps Moderators @wirkey
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                                            @wirkey You are a keen one Mr. Wirkey. 😃

                                            Yes for the new neutrals I am adding them because I will have to create them for GD. So I figure instead of creating everything from from scratch I can build further on the existing XML of TWW.

                                            Yes in GD all Neutral Nations will become Minor nations for a Major Belligerent. That is the long term goal for neutrals.

                                            And yes while I had initially intended to abandon TWW in favour of developing GD, I have found TWW has been a great platform to introduce and test some of the new concepts.

                                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                            Hepster

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