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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Feature Requests & Ideas
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    • redrumR Offline
      redrum Admin @Frostion
      last edited by

      @frostion Yeah, the free movement is strange and unintuitive IMO. It was part of some of the early A&A games. It tends to be better to allow fighters to end movement where you are placing a carrier than landing them then allowing the free move to the carrier. If no A&A game ever had done that then I don't think anyone would ever have said 'I wish we could add a rule to land fighters then allow them a free move if I build a carrier'.

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      • General_ZodG Offline
        General_Zod Moderators @redrum
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        @redrum

        Are you removing that move fighter to new carrier property?

        I'm just wondering if it that property can be used creatively in other yet in undeveloped maps. In a way that has nothing to do with acc. It might come in handy yet.

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        • redrumR Offline
          redrum Admin @General_Zod
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          @general_zod No, I'm just not adding fuel cost support for it. So that 'free' move will cost 0 fuel.

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators @redrum
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            @redrum Free'r than before?!?! Get em while their hot!

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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              redrum Admin @Hepps
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              @hepps More free the better? But yeah doesn't cost move points or fuel. Its magic!

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                @redrum It was magic before... now its low carbon foot print magic. 😃

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                Hepster

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                • redrumR Offline
                  redrum Admin
                  last edited by redrum

                  Here are some initial screenshots of scrambling with fuel. The scramble window shows 'estimated' fuel cost of both defending/returning. If the fighters die then they aren't charged returning fuel for "fuelCost". This is using Global 40 with fighters having:

                  	  <option name="fuelFlatCost" value="PUs" count="4"/>
                  	  <option name="fuelCost" value="PUs" count="1"/>
                  

                  No Fighters Selected
                  0_1521254122751_c1278080-6235-41ba-a64f-733f4bf5e799-image.png

                  UK Fighter Selected
                  0_1521254161671_75a55420-c997-4237-808d-cb8125da84db-image.png

                  UK and French Fighters Selected
                  0_1521254195544_7db21a06-840c-46ab-87b9-f3475f89c57d-image.png

                  Not Enough Fuel for Scramble
                  0_1521257323195_c2bafd2e-0a41-40b0-965b-59826070237f-image.png

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                  • prastleP Offline
                    prastle Moderators Admin @redrum
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                    @redrum magic only is you

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                    • redrumR Offline
                      redrum Admin
                      last edited by

                      Here is the PR: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/3292

                      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                      • FrostionF Offline
                        Frostion Admin
                        last edited by Frostion

                        The above screenshots need the favicon in the top right, not a java icon 😁

                        Edit: @General_Zod @redrum Good that the option to move fighters to new carriers is not removed. The option is critical to the Star Wars maps, an option implemented per request from players to prevent new fleets from being taken out immediately by long range fighters.

                        Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin @Frostion
                          last edited by redrum

                          @frostion Good catch. There was a bug (probably been around forever) that caused the TripleA icon not to appear and for scramble window to not close if you exited the game. Both are fixed in the PR now.

                          Yeah, no plan to remove that property as it would break lots of maps and A&A die hards would be up in arms 🙂 I would say there are probably better ways to prevent new carriers from being taken out too easily. I would recommend some combination of these properties instead as they are more intuitive:

                              <property name="Produce fighters on carriers" value="true" editable="false">
                                <boolean/>
                              </property>
                              <property name="Produce new fighters on old carriers" value="true" editable="false">
                                <boolean/>
                              </property>
                              <property name="Land existing fighters on new carriers" value="true" editable="false">
                                <boolean/>
                              </property>
                          

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                          • prastleP Offline
                            prastle Moderators Admin @redrum
                            last edited by prastle

                            @redrum JP bots were empty and the lobby is slow atm. If you and Dan are done with your latest engine/fuel update we could add it to jp bots just a thought. I stopped all JP bots for now.

                            If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                            • redrumR Offline
                              redrum Admin @prastle
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                              @prastle Yeah, the latest PR is now merged and can be tested with this pre-release: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/1.9.0.0.9859. Feel free to spin it up on a few bots if you want to test it out.

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                                prastle Moderators Admin @redrum
                                last edited by prastle

                                @redrum kk Japan and NewJersy bots run the latest pre and have maps updated

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