Crazy Europe: House of Habsburg

Hepps

@crazyg said in Crazy Europe: House of Habsburg:

So................ in the current version Russia does not have a turn. This update has not been a good one. In the future, I will avoid pushing updates at 5 AM.

LMAO!!! When I said being crazy helps... perhaps I was wrong. Russia no turn... you are really rooting for the Habsburg alliance. Not sure its the best way to balance a map.

Hepps

I know you have other things on your mind... but I did this back when I was going full boar on the reliefs.

Take it or leave it... no sweat off my brow. It's just collecting digital dust bunnies at the back of my HOH closet.

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CrazyG

@hepps
Its much better than the beaker, I'll take it

wc_sumpton

@CrazyG
Just downloaded the latest here are some thoughts:

Remove all the <stepProperty>'s from the combatMovement and noncombatMovement, leaving only the giveBonusMovement=true in noncombatMovement
Change the conditionAttachmentAlways to switch=true
Change the turns conditions into one condition with a rounds=1:3:5:etc
Add a condition for 'Tech Development' and add this condition into the turns condition

<!-- Check to see if techTokens are given -->
<attachment name="conditionAttachmentTechDevelopment" attachTo="France" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="gameProperty" value="Tech Development"/>
</attachment>

<!--Conditions for Turn Number-->
<attachment name="conditionAttachmentAlways" attachTo="France" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="switch" value="true"/>
</attachment>

<!-- Change to one condition with round values and a Tech Development condition -->
<attachment name="conditionAttachmentGiveTechTokens" attachTo="France" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentTechDevelopment"/>
	<option name="rounds" value="1:3:5:7:9:11:13:15:17"/>
</attachment>

Now the techTokens triggers can be reduced to 1 trigger:

<!-- Changed to be one trigger for all player every other turn begining turn 1 -->
<attachment name="triggerAttachmentGiveTechTokens" attachTo="France" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentGiveTechTokens"/>
	<option name="when" value="before:FranceTech"/>
	<option name="players" value="France:Habsburg_Monarchy:Ottoman_Empire:Poland-Lithuania:Russia:Denmark:Sweden"/>
	<option name="resource" value="techTokens"/>
	<option name="resourceCount" value="12"/>
</attachment>

Remove the resource of 12 techTokens given during initialization.
Making this change will allow the player to turn off Tech by deselecting 'Tech Development' and not receive any techTokens.
Change the Activate Bonus Movement triggers to 'when=before:xxxNonCombatMove' (I tend to 'when' my triggers to the step they effect.)
Already talked about the restore movement trigger.
I would also change the remove RecruitPikemen to a single trigger.

<!--Triggers: Remove Recruits changed to one trigger-->
<attachment name="triggerAttachmentFranceRemoveRecruits" attachTo="France" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentAlways"/>
	<option name="removeUnits" value="all:RecruitPikemen"/>
	<option name="players" value="France:Habsburg_Monarchy:Ottoman_Empire:Poland-Lithuania:Russia:Denmark:Sweden"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:FranceEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:Habsburg_MonarchyEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:Ottoman_EmpireEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:Italian_StatesEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:Poland-LithuaniaEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:RussiaEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:DenmarkEndTurn"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:SwedenEndTurn"/>
</attachment>

In the <property>'s I would only show Low Luck, Tech Development, and Unplaced units live when not placed. (And maybe think about adding a bid section)

Game play seems to be moving along real good. The bonus movement problem is solved and the other Techs seem to work as they should. The tool tips even update to reflect the added bonuses. Maybe @Hepps could design a simple overlay to display the bonuses when they are in effect.

These are just some food for thought. The only big fix would need to be the 'Bonus Movement Triggers', then the map seems very playable with your new Techs

Cheers...

Hepps

@CrazyG Here you go.

CrazyG

@wc_sumpton
Thanks for this. Somehow I forgot that you can set multiple players for a single triggers, this makes it much easier.

I also realized I was playing on a rather old pre-release, which could explain why I was getting weird behavior. I've updated the engine and will begin work now.

CrazyG

@wc_sumpton
Can you explain why switch=true is a better choice for the always condition?

Thanks

Cernel

@crazyg In my opinion in this case better having a condition testing if there are any recruits on the map, not to fire a trigger for nothing. Anyways, it works either ways, and always firing it might be less demanding.

wc_sumpton

@crazyg
Just food for thought. The conditions will always equate to true. Using switch=true just reads clearer then rounds=1-+. Don't get me wrong both work and both ways can be used.

Cheers...

CrazyG

@cernel
I could change it at the end, but I really like having an always true condition while building triggers. Its useful for troubleshooting triggers and figuring out what part isn't working.

I can't say if its less demanding that checking the entire map for a unit.

CrazyG

Update:

Russia has a turn
Added WC's recommendations
Added the tech icon
Moved French units around a little bit to make its opening turns more interesting.
Updated game notes with more details, credit WC for his help

I'm testing triggers a bit more then will upload.

Hepps

@crazyg Need a new version! My Russia keeps getting its ass handed to it.

wc_sumpton

@hepps
That's all right, I changed their name to Rusties...:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:

Cheers...

Hepps

@wc_sumpton I'm confused... are you just helping @CrazyG or are you taking the game and making an entirely different game?

wc_sumpton

@hepps
Just helping @CrazyG. The overlay images were just to see how that worked.

Its nice to see that I'm not the only one totally confused...

Cheers..

CrazyG

@wc_sumpton

Did you test your approach with navies? I'm getting unusual behavior with that (a navy that moves 1 space in combat move has 0 movement in NC phase, but a unit that doesn't move has 3)

Unit overlays won't be uploaded at the moment because I want the game to function on the stable engine.

redrum

@crazyg I believe the engine will just ignore the unit icons properties file and images for the current stable so shouldn't cause any harm and just benefit us cool kids using the pre-release

*** This comment is regarding including unit overlays/icons and nothing to do with the navy movement issue

wc_sumpton

@crazyg
I don't see how the unit_icons.properties file could be causing any logic change to the xml?

Will try to look more into it.

Cheers...

(What he said @redrum )

CrazyG

@wc_sumpton
not a unit properties thing, XML I have the movement swap working for everything except navies. When I tried your suggestion of movement rather than givesmovement, it seemed to stop the navies from working.

wc_sumpton

@crazyg
I have tested the movement change on all units. But I also tested the givesmovement also.
I have both working.
Using Navy movement:

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentFranceActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="France" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentFranceDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:FranceNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentHabsburg_MonarchyActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Habsburg_Monarchy" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentHabsburg_MonarchyDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:Habsburg_MonarchyNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentOttoman_EmpireActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Ottoman_Empire" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentOttoman_EmpireDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:Ottoman_EmpireNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentItalian_StatesActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Italian_States" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentItalian_StatesDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:Italian_StatesNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentPoland-LithuaniaActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Poland-Lithuania" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentPoland-LithuaniaDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:Poland-LithuaniaNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentRussiaActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Russia" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentRussiaDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:RussiaNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentDenmarkActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Denmark" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentDenmarkDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:DenmarkNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

<attachment name="triggerAttachmentSwedenActivateNavyMoveBonus" attachTo="Sweden" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentSwedenDiscoveredSailing"/>
  <option name="when" value="before:SwedenNonCombatMove"/>
  <option name="unitType" value="Navy"/>
  <option name="unitProperty" value="movement" count="3"/>
</attachment>

I can post the givesmovement code also if you would like, they are very similar. The only change being the unitProperty=givesMovement=1:Navy.

Cheers...